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I just want to say most of my engineering work, I've done a lot of work on stealth technology, multi-spectral stealth technology. >> Um The What did he just say? Hold up. MonkaS chat What did he just say? What did he say he does at Lockheed Martin? >> They've stopped work on it, but you know, you never know with the Skunk Works what they're really doing. So, I don't I don't know where that project is. And I just want to say most of my engineering work, I've done a lot of work on stealth technology, multi-spectral stealth technology. >> Multi-spectral stealth technologies. Chat, this was a rabbit hole. Not going to lie to you. Went down like a 3-hour rabbit hole reading scientific papers about multi-spectral stealth technology and it was a mind-blowing experience. I've now come to the conclusion that some of the UFOs we're seeing are using advanced stealth technologies to make them invisible in mid-range infrared, far-range infrared, whatever the various infrareds, and visual all at the same time. All at the same time. And what they say they're trying to do is make it so that the temperature the thermal heat that these objects give off, they're trying to make it uniform. And I think about this and I look and I go, wait a minute. So, if I'm looking at this, this object that's covered in this advanced stealth technology, it's just going to look like a blob. It's just going to look like a blob. Especially in the infrared because the whole point is they're trying to make the light bend entirely around it. They're trying to make it so that you can't see this thing in any spectrum, in any of the predator visions or any of the other visions. Hm. Interesting. So, what I like about this exactly cloaking technology, who said it? Nancy. Gold star for you, Nancy, today. Because some of these UFOs are going to be using advanced cloaking technology. Some of them are potentially fusion reactors and gravity manipulations and some of them are also just using advanced cloaking technologies. So now we've added a new tool in our tool bank, in our arsenal, when we are analyzing UFO videos. Charles Chase just gave us the missing piece. Which also tells you, by the way, Charles Chase knows exactly about those MH370 videos. Exactly about them. The dude is literally his job was multi-spectral stealth. And we're looking at some plasma orbs in an EOIR color feed. Of course he knows what we're looking at. That dude, if he could speak freely, he would probably do like a 2-hour lecture on those videos and exactly what they show. Okay, sorry. Let's go on. >> Okay. Yeah. Well, and yeah, and it's fair to say again, a lot of that stuff we can't talk about, but that is totally cool. Yeah. It goes to your background. It's that gestalt of knowledge, right? So then you also did have kind of a drill down. So this is actually kind of our third slide on phase-controlled matter beam. Um but again, yours is definitely more technically accurate and you had some stuff that Kuramoto synchronization, you've got some stuff in that that is is meaningful. >> sauce is this using the vector potential to change the phase of the matter waves without any energy exchange. So, the vector potential >> What? Chat, we are [ __ ] back. We are back, baby. Did Charles Chase say that's the secret sauce? Were those the exact words that just came out of Charles Chase's mouth? Hold on, did you guys just hear what I just said and said, "Hey, it's all about getting these things in phase and twisting the phase of the beam?" Hold on, let's let's just go back. Woo, what did he just say, chat? Pay attention. Get your clips ready, chat. Get your clips ready. >> accurate and you had some stuff that Kuramoto synchronization, you've got some stuff in that that is is meaningful. >> sauce is this using the vector potential to change the phase of the matter waves without any energy exchange. So, the vector potential is actually more fundamental than the fields, the magnetic field and the electric field. Actually, the vector potential is the source of all that and the vector potential can exist with no fields being present. And when that vector potential is there, it changes the phase of things with no energy exchange. It's called the Aharonov-Bohm effect and that's what you need to get these particles that normally don't want to be in phase to get in phase. So, that's the secret sauce right there. >> Okay. Okay. So, I'm going to scroll Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Uh yeah, a little better than okay. That's Charles Chase just fact-checking my post. Saying, "Yeah, we're using the A vector potential. The A vector potential can change the phase of matter waves using the Aharonov-Bohm effect. that the A vector potential is literally literally the secret sauce. >> [laughter] >> It's literally the secret sauce. You heard it right out of the man's mouth himself, Charles Chase. I would have fallen out of my chair if I was interviewing Charles Chase and he said that to me. Literally fallen out of my chair and wondered what reality I'm in that I'm hearing such words. Holy crap. Wow. Ooh. Okay. >> Down now to Casimir force. And again, that we're just running through a lot of the stuff that we've already covered, doing it in more detail with different visualizations. So, um again, this is something that you have gone through several times. >> Yes. >> Okay. And let me see. Actually, you had mentioned this. You highlighted this. You're saying it doesn't prove the existence of vacuum fluctuations, um but quantum theory requires it. That's kind of an interesting side there. >> Right. Right. That is uh pretty interesting. And um you know, and and then this this information on the right there about the vacuum energy of free space, which it that's dark energy 10 to the minus nine joules per cubic meter, and QED predicts that it would be 10 to the uh what is that? 100 and uh 13. So, 120 orders of magnitude off from what we measure versus what we predict. So, something is wrong there. And if you think about how much energy density from the vacuum is over the visible spectrum in your eye, it's a huge amount of energy, and yet it doesn't, you know, our eye doesn't burn up. So, you know, that's kind of interesting, too. But, you know, the most important thing I think here is that there's a new simplifying conception that, you know, this idea of particles and um things like that interacting is really wrong because it's the interaction itself. There are no without an interaction there isn't anything. So, and you can look at >> Wait. Wait. Wait, chat. I emailed Charles Chase like a year ago and I read the email on the live stream. Read it on the live stream. And it was something about there are no independent things. Everything is an interaction. You guys remember that? If you guys don't remember that, think back. Recall that. Bring that info back. It's I think it's going to be really familiar in a second. Before we get to that though, I want to read a little bit on the screen here. He says, "The vacuum catastrophe is in the top right. In the top right of this slide, it shows the difference between the energy that we can measure of the vacuum, which is almost nothing, and the energy that quantum mechanics says should be in the vacuum, which is roughly 120 orders of magnitude difference." And then here's a quote. "Both radiation reaction and the vacuum electromagnetic field are required for the consistency of quantum field theory and atom field interactions." Right there. "Atom field interactions require the vacuum fluctuations. So, when people come to you and say, 'No, the atom is just like this frozen quantum state that's perfectly stable that doesn't ever change.' You say, 'Yeah, that doesn't really work with quantum electrodynamics. You have to have vacuum fluctuations. It has to be in this roiling sea of energy for that to work. I really like this though that the experimental confirmation of the Casimir effect does not establish the reality of zero-point fluctuations because Casimir forces can be calculated without reference to the vacuum. This would have definitely caught me in a debate. Now it won't anymore. Okay. >> Um quantum electrodynamics, it's the correlation functions which are two things interacting together that really give you the scattering amplitudes and the physics solutions. So even quantum electrodynamics and you know, someone who knows that QED will go, "Oh yeah, of course. It's only interactions." But so we do ourselves a disfavor by thinking about separate things. >> Mhm. >> Like you and I are not really separate right now. We're actually, you know, interacting and therefore part of me is actually you and part of you is is me. You know, it's the interaction is what's fundamental, the interaction. Not the separate things. There's nothing separate ever at any time. Anyway, thanks for letting me >> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. No, I'm pleased as punch to have you with me today. I'm just going to go down >> He just said the exact thing that he sent me in the email. There are no separate interactions. Everything is interaction. The whole the thing, he just did the whole spiel, chat. I think it was exactly verbatim. I haven't read it in a while. It's been like a year. I think it was exactly verbatim that he just said right there. Let me just go back like 30 seconds. We're not going to go the whole thing, but >> is what's fundamental, the interaction. Not the separate things. There's nothing separate ever at any time. Anyway, thanks for letting me >> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. No, I'm >> the exact same thing. It's like he just copy and pasted out of there. Does he tell everybody that? I've never heard him say that other than when he said it to us. Chat. Charles Chase, send me your energy. Send me your energy, Charles Chase. I need it. >> Please, it's punch to have you with me today. I'm just going to go down here to what is required by physics to generate forces from vacuum fluctuations. Again, you were drilling down into the Casimir effect and this vacuum energy. One of the things that I love about your work is you're going down to the level of an emerging science and you're saying, "Hey, how can we turn this into products that do things in the real world?" You know, and so >> So, you know, this is just kind of covers in detail the point I was making before. Our physical theories say, "No, you cannot do anything with the vacuum. Absolutely not. You can't generate a current. You can't generate a force. You can't do anything um unless you break symmetry or you have a non-equilibrium uh situation." Um so, that you know, that's uh So, what we're trying to do, you know, Garrett, uh Sunny, myself, other people out there, goes against the dogma of uh what science believes. >> Mm, okay. So, go down to asymmetric fluctuation flow force and we're going even deeper in the physics. Again, I appreciate you sending this to me so much. It's wonderful to see the visualizations that you have in here as well. I think this >> you know, kind of micron scale and it bends uh with a force. So, you can measure gravity, for example. They're it's super sensitive. Um and this is doing work with uh Jim Jim Jaski from uh UCLA. Um excuse me. Uh don't mind him. Uh >> Cat in the way. >> Yeah. >> you know, this is just some uh pictures of the um samples that we've made and we use something called a white light interferometer to measure the deflection of that cantilever. So, um we were really excited. Some of the first data we had >> So, this cantilever, what this experiment is here is a cantilever is just like a bar that can bend. And all he's trying to do here is seeing if you can make the bar bend. Why? Because that's a force and we can use that force for propulsion. Simple, right? >> You know, it went down as it should with gravity, the cantilever, and then the ones with the asymmetric structures went in the other direction and we're like, "Shit, it's working." But, we found out unfortunately that there was some stresses in the cantilever from the deposition of the structures that was, you know, messing up the data. So, >> It's how I'm trying not to be full conspiratard, but every single time Oh, there was a deformation that was messing up the data. We would have had proof that we can manipulate gravity, but turned out there was just happened to be a a problem with the data. We had to throw it out. Starting to wonder if like some of these problems with the data might not be a little bit organized. That's all I'm saying. >> We couldn't come to a a solid conclusion, so we're making new structures actually with Sandia National Labs is building some structures for us, so we're going to be measuring pretty shortly here. >> They couldn't come to any conclusions? Chat. They couldn't come to any conclusions, but Sandia National Labs is building some new ones for them. One of the main Department of Energy lab, Sandia Labs, is building new ones for Charles Chase. >> Fluctuation flow propulsion changes the game. So, this actually shows, basically, you were looking and comparing kind of the curves for a bunch of different >> I'm going to just explain this part in the interest of time to skip ahead a few minutes here. But, if you look at this, he's showing all the different types of propulsion. We've actually seen this graph a lot. Because we've been reviewing fusion, and fusion is the most efficient way other than antimatter matter propulsion, which isn't really within the realm of material science at this point. So, what happens though when we do look at vacuum fluctuations? When we look at pulling energy out of the rack. How does the efficiency compare? It's infinite. The star on the top right is more efficient than any other energy mechanism or propulsion mechanism. It potentially approaches infinite efficiency. When it comes to an ISP perspective, which is how much propulsion you get out of the net input, it's it approaches infinite if it isn't infinite. That's how big this is. This is why it's hidden. This right here is exactly why this technology is hidden because it's not just a game changer, it's literally free energy. It obsoletes every form of propulsion that exists. And the only reason why you're even using fusion is cuz you need some form of energy generation that exists in our three-dimensional reality. That's the only reason why you're even doing fusion. It's the most efficient form of energy generation that you can use in our three-dimensional reality without using vacuum fluctuations. And this is why I love the idea of catalyzed fusion, vacuum catalyzed fusion as Douglas Miller, I believe, has coined it. Is that the moment you figured out vacuum fluctuation and how to harness that energy, the system you want to create is one that utilizes fusion as the intermediary. >> So, you know, what I really like to say, you know, like I said, the our physics models say, "Nope, can't do that." But, the models we have give us the results we expect cuz they're we bake in our observations. And so, you know, they're baked in to make sure we observe the things that are Lorentz what's called Lorentz invariant or that energy is conserved, right? Um that's what we've observed so far, so we make sure that the models give us that answer. >> This is essentially Charles Chase saying the only reason why we're not seeing it is cuz we're not doing the types of experiments that unlock gravity. We're not doing those high-energy physics experiments. We're not at the smallest scale level in the microchips yet. Our lasers aren't at the powerful enough level yet where they're able to easily manipulate space-time. But once we do that, these assumptions, laws of physics are now going to have to be better understood. That's what Charles Chase is saying here. And the fact that he does it in this way tells you that he knows. It tells you that he knows, and this is his way of trying to break through the psychological conditioning. He's going, "Guys, these laws of physics, they're not the be-all end-all." >> There was that source of energy >> Let's get ahead. >> screwed if you're wrong about something, right? There goes your is that, you know, we have >> Yeah, well, and so extraordinary experience >> your professor at a university, the worst thing in the world is to be wrong about something. You are screwed if you're wrong about something, right? There goes your reputation. So, they're all really careful, you know, and >> What did I tell you guys? They're careful. They're scared. The academics are scared. Their reputation. If they're wrong, their reputation is ruined. This is why they don't want to come on this show. This is why they're afraid to come out and speak about their free energy microchips. They don't want to get dog-piled. They don't want to get ruined. They don't want to get their reputations destroyed. They don't want to get pawns in Fleischmann's and