Deep State Deep Dive - UAP Gerb Watch Party
Summary
The video is a live stream commentary by host Ashton Forbes, analyzing a recent interview with 'UAP Gerb' (Ross Coulthart) and discussing the broader UAP disclosure landscape. Forbes argues that UAP Gerb’s claims about a 'partial disclosure' strategy by the US government are naive because they fail to recognize that the technology being hidden is not just alien craft, but human-made teleportation and free energy systems. He posits that the US government, specifically through a 'Deep State' coalition involving the CIA, DOE, and defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, has successfully teleported MH370 using plasma orbs and is actively suppressing this knowledge to maintain asymmetric warfare advantages and economic control.
Forbes critiques the 'UAP Gerb faction' for focusing on the psychological impact of alien disclosure while ignoring the physical reality of zero-point energy (ZPE) and spacetime manipulation. He asserts that the MH370 videos are authentic military footage proving that the US has mastered teleportation via wormholes created by aneutronic fusion. The host contrasts this with the 'Lu Alzando faction,' which he accuses of weaponizing the narrative for political gain without understanding the underlying physics. He concludes that the only path to true disclosure is the full release of the MH370 evidence, which would force the government to admit to illegal operations and the suppression of free energy technology, potentially leading to the prosecution of senior officials.
Key Claims (7)
The US government teleported MH370 using plasma orbs to demonstrate advanced spacetime manipulation technology to geopolitical rivals.
Evidence: Leaked Gorgon Stare military videos showing plasma orbs surrounding the aircraft; the absence of debris in the South Indian Ocean.
UAP Gerb (Ross Coulthart) is being misled by the 'Legacy Program' into believing the disclosure will focus on aliens, while the real secret is human-made free energy and teleportation.
Evidence: UAP Gerb's interview statements about 'partial disclosure' and 'protecting equities'; Forbes' interpretation of the physics involved in the MH370 events.
The 'Deep State' is suppressing free energy and teleportation technology to maintain economic dominance and military asymmetric warfare advantages.
Evidence: Claims that companies like Lockheed Martin and Sierra Nevada Corporation have developed these technologies but are hiding them to avoid bankruptcy and legal accountability.
Plasma orbs observed in UAP footage are human-made aneutronic fusion reactors capable of creating wormholes.
Evidence: Analysis of MH370 videos showing plasma structures; references to Paul Czysz’s patents and Field-Reversed Configuration (FRC) physics.
General William McCasland was abducted by the Deep State to silence him regarding his knowledge of these technologies.
Evidence: McCasland's disappearance from public life; his prior social media activity regarding fusion technology.
The 'Kona Blue' program was a vehicle for transferring UFO materials to the government, blocked by the CIA to maintain secrecy.
Evidence: UAP Gerb’s interview claims regarding Jim Ryder, Mary Sturivant, and the involvement of Homeland Security.
Civilian aircraft have been inadvertently shot down by EMP weapons during attempts to intercept UAPs.
Evidence: Allegations cited from Jesse Michaels and UAP Gerb regarding electromagnetic pulse weapons affecting civilian airliners.
Theories Presented (3)
Video Details
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- August 11, 2026
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Video Transcript
Carl Sean could not have predicted [music] 2021, but he did see it coming. He wrote the following back in 1995, and we quote, "I have a foroding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time. [music] When the United States is a service and information economy. When nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped [music] away to other countries. When awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few [music] and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues. When the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority. [music] When clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline. Unable [music] to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide almost without noticing back [music] into superstition and darkness. The dumbing down of America is most [music] evident in the slow decay of substantive content and the enormously influential media. The 30-second sound bites now down to 10 seconds or [music] less. lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudocience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance. Roll that around for a while. >> I hope you're going to do magnets. Somebody out there, I hope you're all brilliant people. Magnets. Do magnets. Okay, I'll tell you how to make money. Do magnets. You're doing a lot of great stuff. Do magnets. >> Ashton Forbes, you know that super jacked guy? Malaysian 370 contact switch 120 decimal 97. >> Breaking news tonight. A Malaysia Airlines flight [music] with 239 people on board, including four Americans, has gone missing >> even as these grainy [music] satellite images released today by the Chinese government. >> Again, the Malaysian platoon [music] was a was one shot at China saying, "Knock it up. >> Why shoot it down though if it's not hostile? Our technologies permit us to manipulate [music] time and space. >> What is it? >> They need distance [music] annihilated. >> This country is very powerful. >> Far more powerful than people understand. We have weaponry that nobody has any idea what it [music] is. And it is the most powerful weapons in the world. Not even close. I remember the line from [music] Hindu scripture [music] is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multiarmed form [music] and says now I am become death and destroyer of worlds. [music] I suppose we all thought that one way or another. Woo! Chat. Whoa. We're dropping truth nukes in the chat right now, guys. Hello. Happy Monday. Thank you guys for being here. Wow, it was a busy weekend, guys. Number one, Salvatore Py interview. If you did not check it out, where have you been? Go check it out right now. Secret meeting with Congressman Berles. How do UFOs work? What's the secret to physics? Everything is in there. You need to be watching it. You need to share it. You need to give it to people so we can get disclosure because otherwise, legitimately, I don't know how we're going to get disclosure. I don't even know what these people think disclosure is anymore. I mean, if it's not a Navy engineer talking about how UFOs can teleport and manipulate spaceime, I don't know what it is. So, I guess at this point, you pick what kind of disclosure you want. You want people begging the government to tell them the aliens are real, or do you want to teleport and have free energy? It's kind of up to you. Now, guys, you [snorts] know, I don't like to talk about politics. I hate it, chat. But there there's a topic that we just can't ignore. It's too big, too important to ignore. Now, you know, I have always stood against bigotry and all forms. Even when I have been myself as the flawed human that I am, when I have been a bigot, I've even stood against myself, called myself out, deleted my own live streams. So, it is my duty, chat. I don't like to be woke. You know, I hate wokeness, but transphobia is real. 100% real. Trans people are real, too. They exist. They choose their gender identity. And we we are not one to judge how they choose their gender identity. And this brave African-American female, this is incredible the amount of bigotry happening here. Royce White. Royce White is getting death threats for his her excuse me, excuse me, I caught myself her bravery in coming out and declaring for the WA NBA draft. In response, in response, the WNBA has held secret meetings to determine what does the W in WNBA stand for. They're not sure. Maybe it's Wakanda. Maybe it's uh Wasabi. No one knows. Could be anything. Women, I don't know. Not sure. Let her play, chat. That's all we need to say to these bigots that refuse to accept people that are different than them. Let her play. If we have to make a new expansion team, as is discussed in this Benny clip, Benny, Benny, by the way, so brave. so brave to report on this when all the bigots are out there trying to cancel people and Benny the brave journalist out here. Wow. Kudos to him. I think he deserves a pulitzer honestly for this. We can make a new expansion team where all these brave women, stunning women, thank you very much. Very stunning. It's important we point out how stunning they are. where they can play on the same team together. The team names already been established. The Decepticons. Perfect. Perfect name, guys. It's perfect because the Decepticons were strong. I'm trying I'm trying to come up with a non-transphobic thing to say about the Decepticons. It's not easy. [laughter] But anyway, they're strong and that's all that's important. So, we will come up with a new team, the Decepticons, and we'll put these brave women on it. Chat, I absolutely promise. I promise in my heart of hearts, I will watch this. I will even buy tickets to a game. I I think my town has a team. I will buy tickets when this brave woman comes to town to play my team. I will buy tickets if this brave woman is on my team. I will buy season tickets. This is binding. Some of you are saying, Ashton, you're joking. This is binding. Season tickets and I will watch every game. Call me out. Okay. I'm sorry guys. I know some of that was really hard for a lot of you guys and I know a lot of you hate when I get into politics, but I just felt like that's an important issue that kind of transcends the universe, you know. [clears throat] Anyway, oh, and by the way, by the way, real talk, [snorts] just in case some of y'all think that I'm trying to put trans trans people down, I'm just gonna [snorts] say a nice thing about trans people for no reason. That's the best time. Trans people make the best coffee. Some of y'all are noobs and you're just going to Starbucks and you're getting your your coffee from some pink-haired, purple-haired libtard, right? Oh, no. chat. No chat. You go to the trans coffee shop there. It's always going to be a boutique mom and pop one, right? They make the best. They put so much care into that coffee. I would never go anywhere else to be perfectly honest with you. So, I have utmost respect. And that's a little secret I'll let you guys in on. Okay, let's talk aliens. Actually, no aliens yet. No aliens yet. Before we get into that, she's smarter and more attractive than Candace Owens chat. I never do super chats in the middle of a live stream, but I just saw this pop up and [snorts] I just thought that is so true. That is so true, chat. What a brave African-American woman and somebody that we can stand behind that has moral compass, has integrity, unlike Candace Owens with no integrity, no morals, hates the truth, hates everything Charlie stood for. Dark dark times. [clears throat] Okay, real talk now. Let's get into it. Oh yeah, and in addition to the Salvatore Pyuse interview, I forgot to mention the Gabriel Diaz interview is going to drop Wednesday. I'm just making a couple minor edits to it. I do want to point out, guys, I want to be perfectly honest. Gabe was pretty nervous in the interview. He's he's a student. He doesn't really do a lot of interviews, so I want you guys to go easy on them, but it's still a very insightful interview and discussion, and I think we have a a lot of good uh topics that we talk about that are relay or um um parallel the stuff that I've been talking about with Salvador Pais. And the other announcement, Tom Voluone, part one has been recorded. I'm planning to do another part. There's a lot of stuff I want to talk about Tom Voluone. First part's been recorded. That's going to drop next weekend. maybe Friday, but probably next weekend. And that's you're not gonna want to miss that one either. That's uh Salvador Pist level for sure. Okay, now that we've discussed those things, couple more things I want to talk about here. First thing I want to talk about, we missed something, guys. Remember [snorts] this video and we're going to be giving more shout outs to people by the way. So don't try to pander too much otherwise I won't shout you out. I can see I can tell chat I have zero point energy sense. Don't doubt me. I figured out a plane teleporting plane. Okay. Remember this orb video? We missed something in this orb video. Anyone know what it is? Pause chat. Rewindoop. Huh? Let's enhance. Chat, enhance, please. [cough and clears throat] Okay, let me switch share. We need to enhance on this bad boy. Anyone [snorts] guessed yet? Nobody's guessed it yet. Maybe when we enhance they will figure it out. H anyone yet? The reticle. Look at the reticle chat. The reticle design is just like the reticle design from one of the two MH370 videos. The fourbox layout with the cross in between. This is actually a rare reticle layout that I don't think we had necessarily seen in any other UFO video before this. And one of the reasons why the debunkers argued against the authenticity of the videos was they said, "Well, they don't use that. That reticle design doesn't exist. They don't use that." Now, it's not exactly the same. It's not the same exact camera, but it's definitely whatever you call this box thing with the square with the hash. This is whatever that is, it's the same that now on if you ask AI, it tells you that this can be used for zooming in where like whatever you zoom in to the next level is going to be that box. But I don't know if that's necessarily true. So anyway, I wanted to point this out. Now, let me switch and I'll pull up the video just so you can see what I'm talking about. So, I just think that's a fun little thing to find because one of the things that we've kind of forgotten about when you look at this, let me see if you can Can you see it? Maybe when you zoom in here. Okay, so it's going to zoom in a sec right here. And you can kind of see the box. Maybe if I go full screen. Oh, no. You can't really see it. It's hard to see. Only in some frames can you see it, but there's a reticle that looks just like that. Now, right up to the top right where my finger is here, you can kind of see one edge of it. It's very, very, very uh slight. Now, another thing about this which is so significant, if I go back to that video real quick uh how I move this. The debunkers also claimed that those slight edges, those corners that you see on the screen here, they claimed that the video was fake. Our video is fake. the MH370 video is fake because those corners disappear when they go over like when they're moving around through the clouds. Sometimes you just can't see them at all. They blur into the background. And they said, "Oh, that that's that means that proves they're fake." But actually, you can watch this video as we've just watched it multiple times, especially when it goes over this. You can't even see the reticles. You can't even see it. They blur into the background all the time throughout this video. And I guarantee you they're also doing any other slight minor warping and the other effects that the debunkers were claiming were proof the videos were fake. I think it was Krishley specifically was the person that made a whole debunk video and she was standing by it confident that this was proof that the videos were fake. So I want to go ahead and just go and tell you right now yet another debunker has been completely annihilated, completely destroyed, proven to be a fraud. based on the reveal of more real videos. And I said that this is what would happen. I said that as these videos get revealed and our surveillance gets revealed, the MH370 videos are going to be authenticated. They're going to be undeniably true. And because we've been reporting on them for 3 years and talking about them and making them popular, no one will be able to say we got lucky. We already knew they were real. We've been acting upon the notion that they were real the whole time and been confident that they were real and we had con we predicted this would happen because we knew they were real. So that's the other point that I want to bring up right here. Now it's not proof. It's not enough proof at least. I mean we already know. But yet another debunk bites the dust. Okay. Glad we got that out of the way. Couple more bits of news. Deep State Ross chat. Deep State Ross. I can't believe the balls on this guy chat. I really can't. So, if you're not familiar, Ross Kohart, also lovingly referred to as Deep State Ross. What was that like a year ago? Two years ago now, came out against the videos. finally spoke publicly on the videos for his first and only time ever and me and said the videos were fake. Misrepresented everything. Claim that I believe aliens zap the plane. That's the first thing he says. People are like, "Dude, what?" [laughter] Like, claims that he knows that it's not satellite video. That's not It can't be a satellite video. And then the next day I find out it's Gorgon stair whammy. the next day. So, Deep State Ross, we've got a history. He also claimed that there's a secret buried UFO that is too big to move and he knows where it's at, but he can't tell you. If he told you, they'd kill him. chat. He also in addition to that predicted there would be a egg UFO video that Jake Barber would reveal that would be proof absolute proof of a reverse engineering program. Do you guys remember that he's try he has ignored this? He talked this up as if he had proof and it turned out just to be like some [ __ ] being like held up underneath a helicopter like an egg. Looked like nothing. Certainly didn't look like a UFO. So if that wasn't enough, now Ross Khart, big balls on this guy, my goodness, is now claiming this. Let's just listen. The Department of War has quite literally taken on the running of its own covert operation to intercept these mystery objects. And I'm told they have recently doned objects craft both in the US and across the border near Huarez in Mexico. [sighs and gasps] I am also told by White House sources that President Trump has personally authorized this operation, which perhaps explains why no full admission has yet been made to the public about the full extent of what the government really knows. There is a full-on effort underway by the administration to recover suspected nonhuman intelligence exotic technology in a program totally totally separate from the so-called legacy program. Um, you're trying to tell me Trump is running UFO programs completely separate from the government's deep state UFO. So now you're claiming not only is there one crash retrieval program, but now Trump is running his own separate crash retrieval program, shooting down aliens. Yo, I'm sorry, but if you're believing this at face value, you're probably also convinced that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I'm just saying it is what it is. Like how can you even We haven't even been proven there's one crash retrieval program yet. [laughter] And even if there is a crash retrieval program, they could just be crash retrieving our own technology like Broken Arrow. It doesn't have to be crash retrieving aliens from the Zenu dimension. And there's just no way I believe this period. Hey, Trump is my guy and I don't trust any of these guys cuz they're all libtards that voted for Hillary Clinton and I know what that's like. I used to be one of them so I know not to trust them, chat. So when they say stuff like this, I'm like, h anyway, what else does he have to say? >> This is an attempt by the president to circumvent the legacy program. It's been run, >> bro. Also, none of this does doesn't make any sense either. This is not how you would even do it. He's like, this is how libtards think, too, chat. They think like everything's like the Marvel movies. They think like, oh yeah, okay, there's a secret secret UFO program, Men in Black, so they're going to make our own Men in Black program and fight against them. Like, what are you talking about, bro? It's not how any of this works. Um, no. If they were going to do anything, they would just try to figure out where the technology is. They would just try to figure out who the people are who already have it, already built it. They would just be trying to figure out Charles Chase, Salvatore Pais, and the actual Black Project engineers like in these books. That's what they would be doing. They're not going to go try to get their own UFOs and make their own parallel crash retrieval program. Honestly, if he is doing if this is true, I would actually lose a little respect for for Trump. It's just a stupid ass idea. >> Out of the White House by the president's most senior intelligence advisers. President Trump has tasked the Secretary of War, Pete Hgsith, to find out what these objects are and to capture them. I want to hear Pete Heg says say it. I want to chat. Pete Heg says from Minnesota. Bro, where you at? Bro, where you at? Do a special hard truth with me, bro. Let's address these vile rumors coming from deep state Ross claiming that your boy, the Minnesota goat Pete Hegth, doing the gritty. How dare you? How dare you speak ill of my boy? saying that he's trying to shoot down aliens. Uh-uh. No way. Don't believe it. >> The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Odney, is also involved. Sources have told me that one of the directed energy weapon systems used at White Sands in an attempt to shoot down these mystery craft is what's called high pulse microwave. It shuts down an aircraft by emitting an intense burst of electromagnetic energy that travels at the speed of light, penetrates the aircraft and fries its electronic systems. My sources tell me that the craft objects, UAPs, whatever you want to call them, are being targeted over White Sands and they definitely show anomalous properties. So, this is where I think I think what they really do is they mix the truth together. Great comment by Phoenix here, right? Okay, there's probably a grain of truth. They probably are using pulse microwave weapons. Maybe they're maybe that's the way they refer to something that uh produces like a conditioned electromagnetic field like we've been talking about to make a gravity beam. Or maybe that's just exactly what they're doing. Maybe it's not anything anomalous at all. Hard to say. Maybe there's just a standard EMP and there probably are UFOs flying over a missile base. Either there are obviously or maybe they're China or Iran or Russia. Maybe they've got some of this technology. Those MH370 videos are 12 years old, fam. 12 years is a long time to make some plasma orbs after some videos have leaked on the internet. So anyway, more to come on that. I personally don't care, but I just think it's interesting that Ross Khart is really just coming out here and he's just throwing everything against the wall. I don't think the guy's been correct yet about anything, but he doesn't care. Just boom. Okay, one more thing. Fractal guy chat. I call him Fractal Guy. How long is this video? It's only like three minutes. We can probably watch >> expertise of a man in federal way because he's a whiz at math in a way that no other person in the world is. >> As Kirsten Joyce shows us, his mathematical gift isn't one he was born with. He came by it through a brutal attack. >> Fractal wise, if you look at numbers just as being fractals, >> Jason Padet is the best math tutor his daughter Megan could ever ask for. >> It's very nice cuz I know that he can explain it to me and also explain it in a more easier way, but he can also help me like with more advanced math. Jason wasn't always into geometry. >> I was one of those kids that said math was stupid. >> His passion. >> So this is interesting. This is really interesting. Why? Because we have realized that this idea of sacred geometry is not so crazy after all. There might be a grain of truth on how to interact with the extra dimension in this geometry. And fractals are important. Fractal is just the idea that whatever is small scale invariance. Whatever is small can be made very large and large very small. They often times point at like tree branches and they'll say like the tree branch its pattern is consistent amongst different scale. Okay, so this guy I like him. He's talking the right talk. Don't tell me that chat. The only thing that could put me off is if he says that the aliens downloaded into his brain. Everybody's got some story about the aliens downloading things into their brain. Nobody can just claim that they learned anything anymore. Let's find out. >> For it came unexpectedly, brutally even after a mugging eight years ago in Tacoma. >> They ran up behind me and smashed me in the back of the head. Um, it actually knocked me out initially. Unlike the majority of people who suffer a brain injury and lose abilities, Jason gained a rather unique ability to see and draw certain images. >> H chat, I think we're sending the wrong message here, chat. I don't think we're supposed to tell people that you have to get bludgeoned repeatedly to gain superpowers. Maybe he just Maybe he just realized fractals are important. didn't necessarily get superpowers from getting him knocked out. Chad, that's just chat. The knockout story is just the cover story. The aliens, they probed him. They they did what they want. They they took him, chat. They took him and they had their way with him. >> Suddenly, these patterns were obvious and they were everywhere. I mean, from trees to people to skin to paper, [music] no matter what it is, they're following these specific geometric patterns, which I now know are fractals. Specialist told him he likely acquired savant syndrome. A very >> Come on, Chad. That's not real. [laughter] Specialist told him he acquired Savant syndrome. This is why I don't watch the news anymore, by the way. Are people are listening to this and absorbing this as their reality. [laughter] He acquired Savant syndrome. It turns out sometimes when you get bludgeoned a lot, you just become a superhero. You just get superpowers and become super smart. Dude, that's not a real thing. >> [laughter] >> very rare case where as a result of his injury, one part of the brain starts to compensate by making more neural connections and the part of his brain that did was the part that analyzes geometry. >> Suddenly I'm able to basically process more information geometrically whereas before I couldn't. Before this I could not draw anything. Um in fact it was a joke in our family about Pictionary how I was the worst at Pictionary. That one took part of the >> I'm sorry chat. This is the part where I don't believe I think what happens what happens is people try to come up. They try to fill in the gaps. Like man, how did I figure this out? Well, it must mean that brain injury I had. Like you realize nothing's quantifiable. What he said, I'm able to draw geometry. You [laughter] mean you couldn't draw a line before? What do you mean? Of course you could draw before. Like oh I I was bad at Pictionary before. That's proof. Sorry guys. That's uh and the problem is a lot of doctors just make [ __ ] up. A lot of doctors what happens is I shouldn't even be saying this honestly. This is just my own personal opinion, my opinion. Not counting any pretty good doctors. I love doctors out there. Love the healthcare industry. But what happens is a lot of people, you tell them something and they're basing their opinion about you based on what you're telling them. So if you go into this telling people, "Oh, I never could do geometry porn. Now I can." Now the doctor's going to be like, "Oh, he just discovered a new ability." You're like, "Well, that was like his own impression of the events. Wasn't necessarily exactly what happened, you know?" So anyway, let's keep going. >> Three weeks, four weeks to draw. >> The first fractal he drew was the number pi. His images look like something a computer would generate, but he meticulously creates them by hand. From the images in his mind, and they are extremely accurate. Jason admits he is obsessed. And not being able to turn off this passion can interfere with daily life. >> Yes, it does constantly. Uh I I dream about it. I've >> Okay, so I'm kind of burying the lead here. We're going to the end. I should have just gone straight to the end and and not done this last three minutes cuz here's the most important part. And by the way, this is all this is pretty impressive. This is impressive. Really impressive. >> Energy equals mass times the speed of light. Okay, bro. Whoa. Whoa. The news cuts off. He's doing an explanation right now. And he goes, "Energy equals the speed of light squared." Energy equals mass times the speed of light squared. Hm. What do you think he's implying there? I know exactly what he's implying. Anybody that says that? When have I said that? I've said that when I said it's not annihilation when they're zapping the plane. I said it's not annihilation when they're zapping the plane because we would see way more energy being released. It must be teleportation. Has to be because of E= MC² because mass is equal to energy. So what is he saying here? Here he's trying to explain something about the universe. And who just said a neutronic be happy gold star for you? Because why? Watch this. adds up. Kirsten Joyce, Q13 Fox News. >> Pageant is working with MIT scientists to design something called fractal fusion reactor that in theory would deliver unlimited clean energy. They're also using his expertise to design magnets. >> Who would think like some >> what? Dude, if I'm watching this and I'm watching normie news and this dude just comes on after this weirdass story about dude being bludgeoned and turned into a superhero and he's just like he's just like, "Oh yeah, and this guy's working with MIT to make something called fractal fusion that produces clean energy forever. Isn't that kooky? Woohoo. Oh, and they're also trying to make magnets based on this." Uh, that was kind of the story. Why were you telling me about some [ __ ] about him being bludgeoned? No one gives a [ __ ] about that. Sorry for my French chat. I know. We're trying to get those Disney bucks. We're trying. Um, he's working with MIT on some kind of fusion, which by the way, as you guessed it, they're working on clean fusion, a neutronic fusion presumably. I didn't dig too much into this. I haven't looked up to see an update on this, but wow, that is that is crazy. I got to watch this end of this again. I couldn't believe it. The cut and the transition in this guy just talking about that is so weird. Yeah. Doesn't it sound like It reminds me of Nun Lario, too. Rest in peace. He probably knew him. He was the leader at MIT Fusion, wasn't he? 13 Fox News >> Pageant is working with MIT scientists to design something called fractal fusion reactor that in theory would deliver unlimited clean energy. They're also using his expertise to design magnets. >> Who would think like something so terrible like a mugging would turn into something like that? >> This is fascinating how the brain what he can do now. >> That's so amazing. The guy got mugged. This crazy fusion. What's that? You guys realize fusion like isn't supposed to work, right? Like we don't have it working supposedly. this. Why else is this video? I have no idea. Okay. Okay, let's get to the main event, chat. What you all came here for? [snorts] UAP Gerb, I know you love him, chat. I love him, too. Look at this big cuddly bear, chat. Look at him. How can you not love that face? There was a part two to the UAP Gerb deep state Ross discussion. I didn't know about it. Somebody pointed out said, "I can't wait, Ashton, for you to do the update." And I said, "You best believe we're doing an update." Because honestly, this might be one of the only unfiltered mainstream media interviews I've ever seen on the UFO topic where a guy's just laying it out there. And I think this is why Lu Alzando freaked out. The reason why Lu Alzando freaked out is because UAP Gerb is a neutral party coming out and he's just blasting him uncorrupted. L UA uh Alzando tried to give him his card and make him, you know, call him up and pull him in and do all the [ __ ] and he was like, "Nah, I'm not interested." And this is a threat. This is a threat and it's actually more of a threat than me. This is why I support UAP Gerb. doesn't even realize he's more of a threat than I am because of his naive. His his naive his He's just out there like a boy scout. He's out there like a boy scout. He just wants to do the right thing, [clears throat] you know, [laughter] versus me. This is like my Charles Xavier right here, chat. I'm Magneto and here's my Charles Xavier right here. I can tell he just wants to do the right thing. Is he misguided? Yeah. Does he understand the real implications? know, but you know what? He's out there and he's going to help y'all out. I'm the one that will push push the sinners to embrace the saint. Anyway, let's get into this. I'm excited. I've already got a few clips lined up so we don't have to watch the whole deal, but it already starts out hot right away. Now, keep in mind all of what UAP Gerb is saying here is probably not true. We should assume that. However, some of it probably is. And we have to look at it through his lens as somebody who's basically a Redditor. And I mean that in this case with all the best elements and none of the negative ones, but basically a Redditor in terms of his mindset still. So, he's not going to understand everything, but he's the best well most wellressearched Redditor on the UFO phenomenon by far. Okay, here we go. >> Well, who left federal who quote unquote left federal service in 2017 and uh joined TTSA as liaison to the NRO immediately after? That was Lou Alzando. So, I've hypothesized, again, I'm not stating directly because I don't want to get sued. I'm hypothesizing and possibly alleging that under the ATIT mission under directive of James Clapper, Lou Alzando exposed Tom Deong to elements of the Immaculate Constellation activity. Wow. Right out of the gate, he says, "I think James Clapper was working with Lu Alzando. They were affiliated and I think Lu Alzando is the one that connected Tom Dange to all this too. Now this is really interesting. Tom Delange, why? Where is this guy? We know General McCassland helped set him up with all his people and the general is missing. Straight up vanished off the face of this earth. And no one knows where he is, not even his wife. Tom Dange is silent. Doesn't he care about his friend? Doesn't he care about the guy that risked his life to give him this information? And now we're hearing Lu Alzando is also connected. What? Where actually is General McCassland? I'm gonna keep saying this every single live stream because I feel like this guy, General McCastelin, might be the missing piece we need to blow this whole thing wide open. That's the feeling. That's the impression that I get from this whole scenario is that General McCasslin is connected to all these guys. He might be like there's a got to be some real specific important reason on why this guy disappeared. And it's not because he was like, "Oh, I'm tired. I'm gonna end it all." Nah, bro. No chance. That was not it. Okay, let's get some more. >> But isn't that a good thing? I mean, doesn't that show that he was moving to try and get this stuff exposed? >> Again, partial disclosures. You're showing tic tac anomalous signatures, but uh there's nothing to there's nothing to say that Tom Dong was exposed to some of the reproduction vehicles or existence of. So you're basically saying that at that time Tom Dong was basically being prepared for a controlled disclosure narrative where they would limit what was being revealed. It was an attempt you believe by the national security state to anticipate the likelihood of disclosure and to try and control what does come out by constraining how much is revealed about recovered craft. >> I believe so. And I don't think that >> this is the most scripted interview I've ever seen in my life. By the way, I say this as somebody that does a lot of interviews and gets interviewed a lot. Absolutely no question a scripted interview. How do I know? How long was that question? [laughter] That question was like two minutes long. You're saying that there's been like that whole thing, that whole leading of that whole question means they already talked through what all the claims were going to be ahead of time before they recorded exactly what they were going to say, what the responses were going to be. Ross Gord's already ready for all this, which I don't know how to take that actually. Maybe makes it even worse because like is is Ross Khart turning on these guys? I think what's happened here and what he just said right there is you're saying that these guys have been getting mis misled. Tom Delange got misled. They've been holding back half the secrets. Meanwhile, they're revealing aliens, but they're not revealing anything about how the crafts work or anything. And doesn't that make sense? Don't you I have this feeling that Tom Delange feels like he got played. Why? cuz he just vanished. He just vanished and he's out. That's what happens. You feel like you get played and you're like, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm out. H interesting. And now I'm starting to wonder if Ross Colard, if that didn't happen to him, too. Ross Colard is suddenly now leading questions for UAP Gerb on this exact narrative, saying, "Hey, are these guys only giving us half the story? Are they intentionally trying to control the narrative so that only partial disclosure happens?" Feels like he got burned. Exactly. Tom Hudson feels like he got burned by somebody. I love this, by the way, chat. This is I can't play the Dane Cook clip again. Copyright strikes. brutal. But this is the jelly aisle all over again. Chat, I love this. By the way, Ross Kohart, you're doing the right thing. You're a hero. You're a hero for exposing these people. Ross Khart, you get them, Ross Khart. And for Lu Alzando, ooh, top 10 anime betrayals. Lu Alzando, they betrayed you, bro. You need to get them back, bro. You gonna let them talk to you like this, bro. me. Me chat, just give me the crackpipe. Just give me that Hunter Biden crackpipe, chat. They're trying to rehabilitate, by the way. You see them trying to rehabilitate Hunter Biden. I I can't believe I'm going to do a little bit more politics, but what the That is an intelligence test. If you are buying into the Hunter Biden rehabilitation, if you're thinking about voting for anyone that Hunter Biden would ever vote for in his life, you've fallen for the trap. You have failed the intelligence test. My goodness. Okay, sorry. Let's keep going. >> Tom Dong should be viewed as culpable in this uh operation at all. I think Tom Dong's curiosity and passion for the topic was taken advantage of and kind of weaponized. I think there's an argument to be made that ATIP harnessed something called Project Forum. uh the Bigalow Advanced Aerospace Space Studies uh contracting under OAP, the Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Application Program, produced a document and I think June of 2010 um which BASS under Bigalow was kind of talking about what they were doing under under >> OAP. Okay. And within this document was something called project forum uh which basically was a initiative to harness celebrities or influential figures in pop culture specifically in California and use them to push disclosure narratives or to push disclosure. >> This is this I project forum some [ __ ] I never heard before. I don't know. You had me at using Hollywood to push the narratives. You didn't need to show me any evidence. Already 100% believe you. Don't say anymore. Just stop. You already had me at Hollywood pushing narratives. Uh, Disclosure Day, anybody? By the way, I still haven't even seen it. I still haven't seen it and I don't even plan to see it. And when I watch it on, I don't know, HBO later when it finally comes, uh, I'm definitely going to be playing video games in the background. And when they start crying at the end, when the aliens get revealed or whatever stupid plot twist happens at the end, I'm going to be laughing. I'm gonna be laughing how stupid the movie is. But by the way, they are absolutely trying to control the narrative. And it goes to show how out of touch they are because they actually made that movie, Disclosure Day, thinking that this was going to move the needle that like people were going to wake up, man. It's going to be like the movie Traffic and people are going to like have like a reaction to it. It's going to win the Oscars. Like dude, they really thought that in their minds. That's how out of touch with reality and the common people they are because they live online and they don't realize that common people don't care about any of this [ __ ] Yeah. Anyway, >> I do fear that part of the atip partially harnessed remnants of that project forum and and we saw that kind of manifest with Tom Damong's TTSA. >> What [snorts] was Konaoo? I've never quite understood where Konaoo fit into all of this. Just explain what Konaoo was, please. So, Kona Blue was a Department of Homeland Security DHS PAP or prospective special access program. Uh, this was a technology transfer agreement TTA vehicle for Okay. Okay. Kona Blue were some documents. When did those leak? Was that already two years ago? Oo, chat. We're getting old. We talked all about the Kona Blue documents. Kona Blue documents released. They talk about psionic powers manipulating spaceime. all the manipulation of space-time stuff seems, you know, within the physics that we've been talking about. Um, and this was a new special access program that was supposedly after OAP. So, this is we assume is connected to Hal Pudof, Eric Davis, it was connected to Bigalow. And so, here all of a sudden, UAP Gerb is saying that this was a vehicle to transfer alien technology. I don't know. I hadn't heard this claim before. Here we go. or Loheed Martin, specifically Loheed Martin Space Systems Company, vice president at the time, Jim Ryder, to divest specific UFO materials to the OAP. >> And so you're talking here about Homeland Security coordinating the transfer of an alien spacecraft or bits of an alien spacecraft >> to a government program. >> Yeah. And using DHS is quite ingenious in my opinion as they historically, as I understand, haven't been involved in the legacy program structure. So using a kind of impartial arbiter to pass those materials through is is quite ingenious. >> So they're claiming that during the time of Kona Blue, they were using that to try to get the UFO materials. Let's just call them meta materials. I'm highly skeptical. They're of alien origin. So we can reinterpret that as just meta materials, advanced material science that they were trying to get so that they could review it and analyze how it worked or maybe reveal it publicly or something. And this is where Glenn Gaffne of the CIA either with Ryder or against Jim Ryder of Loheed Martin blocked that transfer from occurring. Okay, interesting. My first question is where are they getting this information? This is not information that I had heard. I don't think this is common knowledge UFO information. know the transfer thing is, but connecting it to Kona Blue seems new. Maybe I'm wrong. And now I'm starting to wonder since this is so scripted and I'm watching this, I'm like, is this like some kind of play? I don't know what this is. Anyway, >> ultimately, of course, uh a senior vice president at Loheed Martin allegedly senior vice president for government affairs allegedly relayed information of this transfer to the CIA's director of science and technology. This was Mary Sturivant uh allegedly relaying this individ which the agency swooped in and said no you are not doing this and put the gibbos on set transfer. >> Okay. So the lawyer in me is thinking okay you've just named three names there. >> Mhm. >> Um let's drag all of them into a skiff sit [snorts] them down and say here's a presidential order. President Gerb commands that you tell the full st story and the full truth about what you know about this legacy program. If you refuse to answer, you will be drumed out of the civil service with ignaminious rewards. Bro, what are you talking about? This is where I lose all faith. This is what people think disclosure is going to be. Like, I'm with you on the on the heartfelt message. Yeah, we want the president to come in and demand these people reveal what they know or we're gonna what are we gonna do to them? What's our legal justification for doing anything to them? All of this is covered legally. And you're assuming the president doesn't know. You're assuming the president doesn't actually know. What if the president does know about all this? And what if the president agrees? What if it turns out because of the danger because this can literally blow up the planet? What if the president gets briefed and the president's like, "Yeah, what if they know, but they just can't tell you because it's all classified and they they would go to prison?" Doesn't that isn't that also a logical conclusion here? That's what I want people to consider because this is nuclear weapons. The president's going to know. They're going to know we have crazy stuff like this and they're going to know the implications are beyond any one of us. >> Well, Jim Ryder has unfortunately passed um shortly before his death. He was giving awfully interesting talks about uh UAP uh light beans. He infamously had a talk called Garment of >> We actually watched this this Jim Ryder thing. I actually closed it. I had it on one of my 150 windows I have open in the background. I had it on one of them because we watched part of that Jim Ryder thing and he was talking about the ether. So, anybody ever says this science and physics isn't real, I've got directors of Loheed Martin that were supposedly transferring UFOs talking about this, talking about spaceime's not empty. I guarantee you this physics I'm explaining to you is real. If you want to quibble over like small details related to it, as some people want to do, that's up to you, man. The big story is there's an extra dimension. The 0 point energy is real. We can tap into it. Free energy is therefore also real. And we can teleport things. We're going to be able to make Star Trek replicators. That's our future. Star Trek replicators. Think about that. I appreciate this. Garmin of God is the name of the video. We're going to skip ahead a minute here. Can't go too late tonight. I got stuff to do. Oh, by the way, no live stream on Wednesday. I'll probably make another announcement at the end. I'm going to be out, but I will I'm going to post the Gabe Diaz video instead. Point at which Mary and Christopher Melon had the exact same pdium for some work trips. So, clearly these people were taking work trips together, working closely. Uh, I would make a second note. This would be the third time now a public outcry to Chris Melon to reach out to Mary Sturvant or to appro approach appropriate congressional members if he's aware of of Mary Stvon's involvement here. Wow. UAP Gerb is calling out deep state Chris Melon. Now, I famously debated Chris Melon's son, Hunter Melon. That's really his name, chat. I accidentally called him Hunter Biden and it was how could I not? It wasn't even like I was trying to be mean. It was just like how can I Anyway, famously debated his son Chris Melon definitely deep state definitely hiding this technology. No question. And here is UAP Gerb saying his friend Susan something or other of Homeland Security was involved in this and he's being silent on it. Isn't it a little suspicious that Chris Melon is being silent on all this even though he has direct access to people who are involved in it? If this story is true, Chris Melon is hiding this protecting this cover up. Why would he be Oh, he might be protecting it because they're trying to not let the technology out. Because you would say, why would Chris Melon, somebody who is in all these UFO disclosure boards, pulling the strings behind the scenes, Lu Alzando's F dick rider? Why wouldn't he want to tell Why wouldn't he want this truth coming out? It proves the cover up. Oh, because they're going to get this technology. They're going to get this flying saucer and it turns out it's going to be humanmade. They're going to get this flying saucer UFO. it's going to turn out to be humanmade. And then people are going to be going, "Wait, how is this humanmade technology?" Then you're going to have a lot of hard questions to answer. And you're going to have to say, "You promised us there were aliens. Where are the aliens at, bro? Produce the alien bodies, bro. Ain't going to be any alien bodies to produce, are there?" I'm starting to think there's going to be no alien bodies to produce. chat. I want, by the way, I want there to be alien bodies. I want Trump to wheel out the alien bodies. And if he does, I'll believe it. I'm on the record right now saying I'll believe it. If Trump if Trump personally wheels out the alien bodies, I'll take it. I'll take it at face value, even though I shouldn't. I don't think it's going to happen, though. >> I'm sure she'll remember this time. You think we're being played? >> Yes. >> By people in the UAP community, don't you? >> I do. Yeah. >> What are they doing? >> Limited disclosure campaigns or protection of of equities and interests. And it it's so frustrating if more people >> Yeah. >> Keep UA chat keep UAP GB safe, chat. I'm worried for this guy, dude. I'm worried for this guy. I don't think he understands what he's doing here. >> [laughter] >> I don't think he understands the danger he's putting himself in. Chad, you don't go on mainstream media and say that people are doing partial disclosure campaigns trying to keep their interests safe, protect their interest, because that's exactly what they're doing, right? That's exactly what he's just saying it in more in a better uh more collo colloquial way. Google using bigger SAT words than I can use. But listen to this part. He's saying they're trying to protect their interests. Church von's involvement here. I'm sure she'll remember this time. >> You think we're being played? >> Yes. >> By people in the UAP community, don't you? >> I do. Yeah. >> What are they doing? >> Limited disclosure campaigns or protection of of equities and interests. And it >> protections of equities and interests. What does that what does that boil down to? That boils down to they're protecting their money. These guys have been making businesses based on alien technology that they've been hiding for national security, but they've been having a secret advantage. They even admit this. You can listen to Hal Pudof on Joe Rogan talking about if this company had an unfair advantage, they're afraid they're going to get sued. And they are going to get sued. In America, the government can't give companies a secret advantage. That's called illegal. So, what's going to happen to these any company and anybody invested in any of these companies that had an unfair advantage? They're going to go bankrupt. They're going to lose all their money. It's going to be a race to get your money out of these fraudulent companies that have been committing fraud, that have been hiding this technology. And these people are invested in those companies. This is why they're afraid of disclosure. And not just them, their children. Nepo, baby hunter, uh melon. That whole kid, that kid has never had to work a day in his life because of the fact that he is, and this is just an allegation. I'm not I don't know this to be true, but that his father, their family is most likely profited off of this knowledge, made millions off of it, maybe billions. If you know which companies are going to be successful, you don't even need to be the person that is that runs that company. You can just invest in it. Nowhere to invest. You're going to become rich. It's like seeing the future. This is what these people are afraid of. Their equities and their interests. That's probably what's holding us back the most right now. The people that are the gatekeepers are terrified that when the truth comes out, they're going to lose everything. They want amnesty for their crimes and they want their money to be protected and their businesses to be protected and they're not going to tell the truth unless those things are protected. And the answer is no. The answer is one, no. And number two, when we find out we're taking everything. When we find out we're taking everything. Everything you ever made that was related to any of these fraudulent companies, any of this secret technology work, we're taking it all and we're going to do investigations into anybody that had insider information and you're going to prison. If you had insider information based on this technology and you were investing and you were making money in the stock market, you're going to prison. That's that's the only way this can play out. That's the only way. Otherwise, there will be no faith in government ever again. There already isn't, but there you go. >> It's so frustrating. If more people had uh the courage or gull like David Grush to be completely transparent with the information they've been exposed to, I think we'd be in a much better place right now. >> Okay, but let me devil's advocate. I'm not >> Okay. Well, actually expressing a particular view here. I'm just It's my job to devil's advocate. >> If this technology is real, >> it's the most valuable technology on the planet. It would be the most coveted item on the planet. It's worth serious coin. And we don't want this to fall into the hands of potential adversaries, the Russians, the Chinese, who probably almost certainly have recovered craft of their own [snorts] and are attempting to do the same kind of reverse engineering. >> I deep state Ross, guys. I think he's splintered, chat. I think he has splintered away. There are now three factions, chat. There's a new faction in the house, chat, and we now can put faces and names to them. The new UAP Gerb faction. No, we're not giving Ross Colart the credit. The new UAP Gerb faction that knows that we're being misled and they want the truth to come out, but they don't know the full truth. Sadly, these guys don't realize we have full-on teleportation and fusion and free energy. They don't realize that yet, and this this interview proves it. I'll show you later. There's also a faction, the Lu Alzando faction that wants us to know about aliens because they think that it's going to be Kumbaya or something, but they have no intention of telling us about free energy or zero point energy or any of the technology because they're weaponizing it and because they want to control us and they've been controlling us for a very long time. So for all those other reasons and now and then our faction MH370X the best one of course we just want everything to come out. Why? Because screw all these people. Screw all these people. Especially the Lu Alzando faction. Especially the people trying to control us. Especially the people that teleported a Boeing trip 7 and then just pretended like it just crashed and we nobody knows. Like you have to ask me why we're against those people. Whatever side they're on, we're against. So that de facto makes us for everything coming out just by default. >> You can understand, can't you, the importance of protecting the national security elements of this retrieval program, >> right? And you don't if if we have a disclosure of [snorts] our disclosure includes success of of exploiting or deriving technologies from non-human vehicles, you don't have to publish a manual on an alien reproduction vehicle exactly how they work. You don't even necessarily need to reveal them. Uh a disclosure can include that there have been decades of attempts and possible successes and possible misses in exploiting and deriving the technologies. And that's still an honest disclosure. You don't need to do an ARV, an alien reproduction vehicle flyover with a B2. You you I mean, this is like me saying like, "Hey guys, just admit that we ran an OP on MH370." Hey, hey, US government chat. Hold on. Here we go. Full screen. Hey, US government, just go ahead and admit we ran an OP on MH37. You don't have to admit that we teleported with some orbs. You don't have to admit that we got secret technology. Just say that we ran an operation on MH370. That'll be enough. Don't even have to talk about any leaked videos. Just say we ran it up. Come on, bro. [laughter] Yes, I would love for that to happen. If that happened though, you guys understand that everybody would realize the videos are real. The moment we go, "Hey, we uh ran an operation on MH370. We want to come clean on that." Everybody's going to know it's got to be these two military videos. I think like we are that smart, right? I'm not sure. I kind of lose faith in humanity. I think everybody would finally admit it. That's why UAP Gerb's like, "Yeah, man. Just admit that we've successfully reverse engineered some alien technology, but don't don't admit exactly what we reverse engineer." What are you talking about, dude? The moment that they say we reverse engineered any technology, the only question people are going to ask is how what is it and how does it work? And this is the reason why they can't do this and why they haven't done this is that it open it makes this thread that now you pull on it and you get to extra dimension 0 point energy free energy undeniably every time. So no, this isn't really unfortunately a reasonable thing and this is why they haven't done it. I mean it's a pipe dream. This is what we imagine in the movies is hey just admit this is true. Yeah right. just and the problem I think that they don't realize is that we've been using this on black operations, covert operations, things that are questionably legal. Who put the 239 in the chat? I think it was Z Jalapeno. Exactly. This is the reason why they can't admit to even partial disclosure. And these guys, they're blissfully unaware. Blissfully unaware that we're using this in less than perfectly legal means. We still don't need to reveal our asy what we think we might have as asymmetric warfare capabilities to China and Russia. There's still >> So when UAP Gerb says this, in case you're unaware, he's saying we won. This is what I've been saying. Asymmetrical warfare means we're saying we have a weapon that Russia and China can't fight against. And obviously we do. We have [ __ ] teleportation, chat. Two fbombs. We have teleportation. So this is the real fear. asymmetrical warfare where we have an overwhelming advantage. We can't lose that. In fact, if I thought there was a chance we were going to lose that, then I probably wouldn't even be talking about this. But I'm pretty sure we're still way way way far ahead. Pretty sure. >> Ways to disclose without playing our hand in this subrosa cold war. >> Do you think it's possible? I know David Grush's original doppser referred to agreements. >> Okay, I'm not going to talk about agreements with aliens. Stupid. Let's move ahead somewhere up here, I think. >> And then there's the controlled disclosure advocates who are trying to contain what they think is valuable for protecting US national security. Who's going to win? I hope with all of my heart that David Grush does uh and and sort of the full transparency effort and mostly because of this. Right now, as I understand, the leg the fractured legacy program structure is like a chicken with its head cut off. There's no centralized direction. Well, that's that was my next question actually. I mean, so who's the top dog right now? You've talked about James Clapper. Are you saying that a former general James Clapper is the is the MJ1 right now? >> No, I think right now the there's a flat hierarchy within the programs. That committee of 27 still exists likely to arbitrate program exposure management and uh program protection. But I think right now the glory days of the legacy programs is long gone. There's significant brain drain as there's not cooperation across the silos. You know, you might have a naval program and an army program both studying the skin of of recovered crafts for electroloptic cloaking, but scientists, personnel, discoveries, etc. are not shared. Uh, significant brain drain running around like a chicken with its head cut off. So, I am a little worried about brain drain, but I don't agree that we're falling behind on this technology. I might I can see how someone could think that from the outside and think, "Oh, we're falling behind on this technology or whatever." But when you see the MH370 videos, when you see the plasm orbs, you realize, no, we're way secretly much much more advanced. We're obviously much more capable than what these people imagine that we are. The one thing I will agree on is that there's clearly some kind of board that is making decisions that is not the president. Maybe the president sits on it, but probably not. It's probably a group of people that are appointed from the top three-letter agencies, Department of Energy, CIA, etc. And these will be the people that are maintaining the secrecy of all the special access programs and unagnowledged special access programs. There's almost certainly a system that has been built into place over a long period of time, a whole builtout structure and system to ma manage this and maintain the secrecy of it. So that part I agree with. And it's not going to be James Clapper at the top like General Palpatine. No, no, it's Halpine chat. When you think about how this works, it's going to be a decentralized structure so that the information is spread out amongst a bunch of different people. Haludov's going to be the guy that understands it from the highest level the most. And him not being in government, him technically being a civilian even works better. That's why I like him as being the guy in front in charge of everything. He's a guy that you can stack with NDAs, that you can trust, that he's not a temporary employee, and that you know he spent his whole life in intelligence. That's where you put the secrets. And then that committee, that committee we were talking, the people that are in the government in those, they call in Hal Pudof. They call him in as a consultant and they have him advise for them on what they need to do at what points because he's the guy that knows all sees the bigger picture. Right? Imagine this program set if it was once again a unified program set that attracted the US's best and brightest instead of a fractured a just a fractured mess scattered into the wind. >> Well, you used the term earlier Manhattan 2.0. >> It once was, I believe. Yeah. And that was then obviously a huge effort to try and deploy as many resources as possible to try and understand this technology >> right through to the mid 1950s. It was quite clear in the aerospace literature that there was an an underground effort, a black world effort to crack anti-gravity. Do you think we have >> I think one of the best people who speaks about this is uh Eric Weinstein. Of course, he chat. I'm switching sides. We're switching sides. Chat, I am now on team Alzando. Chat, hide all the technology. Screw UAP Gerb. You know what? I didn't want I didn't want disclosure anyway. Forget it. I'm out. Peace. Stream's over, chat. We're done. [laughter] Um, did he just say he's like one of the best people that talks about how we might have figured I ant. I'm sitting there thinking, is he going to say my name chat? Is he going to say Ashton Forbes right now? And you know, he's never going to. There's a lot of names he could have said there. One of the best people to talk to about if the government has figured out anti-gravity, Eric Weinstein is nowhere on the list. He's probably near the bottom of the list of people you want to talk to about the government figuring out anti-gravity. He has no clue whatsoever what we figured out. He has no clue how the physics works. He's not been in any special access programs. In fact, he only recently even started believing in the UFO thing like a year ago. So, what the hell, bro? No, no, no, no, no. I mean, my goodness, bro. If you want to understand why he doesn't understand the physics, that sums it up right there. That that sums it up right there. I'm getting my information from the obsverse guy. The guy that says we're all all the kids are going to be calling it the obsverse in the future. Yeah. Okay. My goodness. Chat talks all the time about secret anti-gravity studies stemming from the 50s. I do probably think we have cracked at least um some successes in the realm of anti-gravity. You know, there's when people talk about alien reproduction vehicles or copycat vehicles, I'm of the mind there are two flight modes for some of these craft that have interstellar capabilities uh which is of course the interstellar travel and the on planet travel. The onplanet travel can of course uh do mindmelting physics defined movements of dropping from 80,000 ft to sea level less than a second but you know might not have interstellar capabilities. I do think that we as humans have mastered that technique of the kind of inplanet flight mode but not interstellar. Um so I I think there are elements of anti-gravity propulsion we probably have cracked >> and what >> chat it's too normie for me chat I can't with this chat. [laughter] So yeah, I'm not trying to be mean. He just he definitely doesn't understand the physics, but he's he's close, right? He's not that far off. Trying to be nice here, right? He's thinking about it like there's different dials like, hey, we're going to turn on the the planetary travel dial mode for my physics. Now, we're going to switch it to to interplanetary mode. And it's not that far off. And the reason why I say that is why how have I explained it? Because I've said EM drive, the EM drive, the impossible drive. That's basically like Star Trek impulse drive. That's like if I want to move really slow, great. If you turn it up, turn up your gravity manipulation, then you get to a warp drive, something that can begin to approach the speed of light. And then if you turn it up even more, you get a wormhole. You get something that actually breaks the light barrier. But it's all the same physics. If you have a gravity beam that can make an impulse drive, all you have to do is turn it up and you get a warp drive. And all you have to do is turn it up even more and you get a teleportation device. So this whole argument about I think they've figured out the one version of gravity manipulation but not the other version doesn't make any sense. If you figured out any version of gravity manipulation, you figured it all out. And why am I so confident on this? Because I saw them teleport a Boeing trip 7. Humans teleport a Boeing trip 7, not aliens. So, a yes, we have figured out all the forms of anti-gravity. And we figured it out way beyond what these guys think we've figured out. And this is why they're so woefully inadequate when it comes to this topic. They're trying their best and I respect them for it, but until you realize what's really going on here, these guys don't even see the danger they're putting themselves in. They're stacking themselves up against the deep state who's hiding teleportation technology. And Ross Collard's going, "What if this is dangerous?" Uh, yeah. Yeah. Teleportation technology, unlimited free energy. Yes, it's being held. It's being kept secret for even reasons you haven't even accepted yet. >> Why would we conceal that if that was the case? Because it means that all of the money we're spending on the Arteimus mission, all of the money we're expending on rocketry, most of our understanding of conventional physics is just completely and utterly antiquated. >> Defense trumps all. All the best resources, all the best minds, all the best money is always towards defense. As David Crush beautifully said on your show, feudalistic dominance and asymmetric warfare advantages are the number and of course secrecy now are the the three biggest things for the legacy program portfolio. >> But if [snorts] you were right, >> this is so crazy. It's like this is like listening to dark journalists, bro. It's like you've got it all figured out. You just haven't reached the logical conclusion. Like you've got it figured out. They're hiding it for military purposes. They're hiding it for weaponization purposes. They're hiding it because of their own greedy self-interest and the people that have been taking advantage of knowing the secret. Yes. And then they're going, "But I don't think they figured it out. I don't think they've really done anything." It's like, you think they have this vast web of secrecy and cover up going back 80 years, but you you don't think they figured it out all yet? Bro, they are way more advanced than you're giving them credit for. way more advanced. These guys have really only scratched the surface. That's the crazy part in terms of what they're capable of. They figured out the they've got the puzzle pieces, but they put them in the wrong place. >> The Russians and the Chinese have probably got their own parallel programs going as well. >> The March on Us. >> Oh, well, maybe we'll listen to this. >> Why is this being weird? >> Maybe they have. Maybe there's been some successful spy craft going both ways. >> Yeah, let's skip past the Russian stuff. Let's skip ahead here a little bit. Let's go somewhere out here. Hey, and contemporaneously, isn't there a huge risk that somebody inside the legacy program, if they continue this attempt to try and control the narrative, the one thing I know is there's a huge frustration, especially in the scientific community in the program, that it's being constrained from doing what good science does, being able to share data with trusted colleagues and and get breakthroughs on material science in particular. Isn't there a risk of a catastrophic disclosure just like what was portrayed in the disclosure day film? >> And that would be very horrific. That'd be an uncontrolled roll out. I know a lot of people kind of >> one thing. So I hadn't heard that claim that the black project engineers in the legacy program themselves are frustrated. That actually makes sense. It makes sense why Hal Pudof, why Eric Davis are whistleblowing to some degree, telling some truths. It explains why uh Dr. Bob Wood, by Paul Sizz, were going to do to Stephen Greer. They're frustrated that science is being kept back for national security. Gary Stevenson, yes, thank you. Be happy. I appreciate it. They're frustrated that the science is being kept secret, but they also understand the implications, the dire implications of the physics at the same time. This explains why they're so quiet, but also why they seem to want some truth to come out >> in the community on this topic call for for uh catastrophic disclosure. Uh but I I >> I think they understand what they're talking about, >> right? I think that could be detrimental to the US. >> Here's the best irony. The best irony of this whole interview is that clip right there where he says these people talking about catastrophic disclosure, they don't even know what they're talking about. You don't even know what you're talking about when we're talking about catastrophic disclosure. When we are talking about catastrophic disclosure, that is free [snorts] energy for the world. free energy as in practically free, unlimited, cheap, green, abundant energy that obsoletes solar and wind and every form of power on this planet. Think about the implications of that alone. Cuz that's not even all. It also is weapons that are so destructive that we can teleport a nuke onto somebody, a warp nuke, or we can make a weapon that just destroys the whole planet in one go. Just like that, relatively easily. That's what's crazy about this is even these guys don't realize what the implications of catastrophic disclosure are. They think it's like us finding out about aliens and the psychological damage of us finding out about aliens? Really? You really think in this world right now that anybody is going to be psychologically damaged finding out that aliens are real? Aliens are going to land and you think people are going to have a mental breakdown? No, they're just going to shoot them. This is America. We just shoot people. They're just going to shoot them and they're going to move on with their day. Just is what it is >> as a nation and and possibly the globe as well. >> What are you being told by your sources has been achieved by the United States or these private corporations with this technology >> in planet flight mode just like we talked about. But I I'm I'm very confident that uh whether you want to call them alien reproduction vehicles, prosaic airframes, employing one or several pieces of derived or exploited technology, I do think uh we've replicated inplanet performance of some of these technical vehicles in m inplanet flight mode chat. You know what? Not even going to hate on them. Just Yeah, sure. We got in planet flight mode, bro. We got it. We figured it out. Not wrong. Not wrong. at least we're at least better than when I went out contact in the desert and I'm asking all the experts, Michael Shrat and all these other dudes and they're going, "No, we haven't figured any of it out." I'm going, "Oh geez, let's at least let's at least take a baby step in planet flight mode, chat. We've at least got that much." Yeah. If you want to know what we really can do, if you really want to expand your mind and be figure out where's the where does this technology really go and what it's capable of, then watch my conversation with Salvador Pis yesterday because in there we we dig into can we like transfer consciousness with this? That's really the cutting edge of what can we what are we really capable of? Not do we have in planet flight mode or uh interstellar mode. Anyway, >> multiple configurations as well, might I add. Saucers, uh, triangle. Triangles. I would imagine most triangles that are two to 300 ft longer in diameter are probably ours. >> Do you think the tic tac of 2004 was a blueon blue? >> Well, that's quite that. So, I know I know you still to this day get a >> besides the ones that >> tic tac thing. Some of you, if you care about that, Jeremy Corbel was saying tic tac can't be locked Martin. Ross Colart was reporting that it was after I said that it was after I was advocating that it was uh who cares at the end of the day but it probably is humanmade. Tic Tac was probably humanade they can use for their own agenda. >> The most important need of all it's the law. >> Exactly. Clearly clearly when you have individuals like Dave Grush Dave Grush also stating that these programs have illegally harnessed funds and criminal enterprises to fund themselves there is a serious constitutional crisis here. And uh furthermore, why would these programs brief any sitting [snorts] congressman unless they have comprom? Also, there's with some of these senior executive officials, there is this weird uh kind of egotistical point of view that if you're not us, you're them. So some of these SCES guys, senior executive officials, they might not see politicians, they might see politicians as dumb leakers and might not think they're these hardcore, super smart acquisition guys that have served in as an SCES in the Air Force for 20 years. They might see >> I actually agree with the project managers. If you are a deep state project manager at Loheed Martin, Northrup, Sierra Nevada, wherever and you're covering this up, not letting Congress know about this technology. Rare W chat. Rare. Congratulations. Good job. Good job. Don't let anybody in Congress know about this. That would be a giant mistake. If you let anybody in Congress know it's getting leaked on the internet immediately. Definitely treat Congress like a bunch of retards because they basically are that. So, you're doing the right thing. You at least got one thing correct. Bravo to you, Deep State. Bravo. I got it. Chat, we got to give credit where credit's due. Look, I might be battling against the deep state to reveal free energy, but that doesn't mean we can't have a healthy respect for one another. I respect their game. Game respects game, chat. Iron makes iron hard. Iron makes iron sharp. >> See them as like a different breed of human essentially. >> So, whip out your question. >> Yeah, they're like basically like go chat. We learned this term go recently and it's my favorite term ever by the way. I didn't know what it meant. still don't really understand it exactly, but it basically just means primitive. You basically just call people goys or [ __ ] slays or [ __ ] walkers or whatever. You know, you can use it kind of however and this is how they look at it. This is how these program managers look at the rest. They look and they go these are just [ __ ] walkers. They these go accept this technology in their minds. It's too it's beyond them. And they look at the congress people and those people are go too all of them. They look at them and they say, "These people don't understand technology. Even if I told them the truth, they wouldn't be able to rationalize it. They would just freak out and have a breakdown. So, they keep it safe from them." H interesting. No, see, you thought it was something about Jews or something. No, it's not. Turns out Turns out it's just a thing you say now. It's kind of like when people say gay, it doesn't really mean like it's not really like a porative against homosexual people anymore. It's kind of like that with goys now, too. We just kind of use it when we want to make fun of dumb people. It's cool. >> Ball Sam UAP good. What's going to happen next few months? Are we going to see any kind of meaningful disclosure? >> I think we might get some partial disclosure. I'm going to be completely honest here with how we started. If uh if Lu Alzando becomes the UFOs are UAPs are I think we're in for an extremely rough uh short term. Some very bad things are going to happen. And um uh I hope that the disclosure efforts of Representative Berles and more importantly David Grush prevail. I think that is the best path forward. That's the most responsible path forward and that's the most transparent path forward. I I do think maybe in the next couple of months we'll we'll continue to get maybe even an acknowledgement of non-human presence. >> It's [snorts] bro these guys they're so thirsty. They're so thirsty for aliens. I think I think in the next few months we're going to get acknowledgement of non-human disclosure. Chat, we're five UFO files deep already. We've already had five UFO files and there's not an alien to be seen in one of them. They're still sitting out here praying, daddy government, for can I have a drop, one drop of alien disclosure, please sir, please. Holy crap, chat. I feel bad for these guys. This is brutal to watch. just like their dreams are getting crushed in front of them. I got to get my popcorn. >> Clear that within the administration from what certain members of the UAP caucus have been saying that there is some consideration being given to opening the door a bit. Uh this talk of an amnesty. >> Mhm. >> Do you think that everybody who's been responsible for alleged crimes within this program should be exculpated and given amnesty? It's a tough question, but I think kind of where we are at now, it's all ornone within a specific window of time. The time frame that's been discussed, of course, is about two months, 60 days where if if somebody has had program exposure, uh they can make protected disclosures through classified channels, not publicly, right? Like if NDAs are waved, these people aren't going to be taking a mic in front of the the >> Okay. Okay. This is too much talking. Answer is no. Do should these people get amnesty? No. I mean, let's just listen to what we're claiming they did. Okay, let's just break it down. Number one, you're saying they hid aliens from the world for like 80 years. Okay, that's already pretty messed up. Personally, I don't think it rises the level of criminal criminal fault, but it's pretty messed up thing to do is lie. And, you know, I put on the level of like lying about religion or something like that. I mean, it's messed up. I don't respect you if you do stuff like that, but it's not really like a criminal action. Okay, now let's go to the other things. Um, they ran projects reverse engineering UFO super advanced technology using government funds and most likely misappropriated some of the money because there was no oversight. But let's just pretend like there was no misappropriation of funds. They built super advanced technology and hid it from the world. They hid free energy from the world. They hid free energy. They had knowable teleportation and space-time manipulation from the world. They said, "No, you don't deserve any of that." Oh, and if that wasn't enough, they took this super advanced technology because you might say, "Hey, Ashton, you can lie about technology. It's property rights or whatever bullshit." Okay, fine. But then they started using it in operations, in military operations. They're using this technology that the American taxpayers paid for that could instantly change our well-being and our way of life that they decide not to tell us about. Technological and physics advancements they decide not to tell us about. And not only are they using it in operations, you might say, "Oh, fine. Blast Iran with some orbs. Who cares? I don't care. They should use it." They're using on civilian airliners. they're using on neutral targets just to flex on people. So yeah, there's definitely some illegal things going on, but we got to be clear about what we can show and what we can prove. And the reality is, how much can we prove of what UAP Gerb is saying? Almost nothing. This is why they're not going to talk because they're like, "Well, if you don't give us amnesty, you can't prove anything." That's their perspective. And this is it's a good one. This has been hidden very well. There is very little proof, but there is proof on the internet, chat. There is proof on the internet in terms of two military videos. And these videos unequivocally prove that the United States government does indeed have this technology. That's why these are the most important videos because what UAP Gerb here is saying about amnesty would be true. We don't really have a single piece on the board. We have no leverage against these engineers except for these videos give us all the leverage. These videos give us all the leverage we will ever need. Why? Because that's Sierra Nevada Corporation going to prison right here. This video is all of Sierra Nevada Corporation being shut down. And this video down here is at least the Air Force and the CIA getting in big big trouble. So, you know, that's a civilian airliner right there. And that's the civilian airliner disappearing out of spaceime. This is all the proof we need for every single claim that UAP Gerb has made right here. This is why we don't give anybody amnesty because when we see what they're really hiding and how much darker it is than everybody's been expecting, then there's no way. And we have proof. We have proof right here. People don't realize it yet, but these videos are absolute proof of everything UAP Gerb is saying. And we're going to bring them down with these videos. Just a matter of time as long as Edward Lynn stays alive. And actually, it doesn't even matter if they kill him. No disrespect to Edward Lynn. I want him to stay alive. I want him to admit he leaked these videos before he gets killed by the CIA. But we don't even need him. Why? Because all the case files already on the record. The stipulation that was classified, the classified stipulation, the addendum, that's already out there. All we have to do is get that declassified. We don't even need Edward Lynn anymore. It's all on the record already. It's just being classified. So even if they kill Edward Lynn, doesn't even matter. By the way, I have been thinking about sending a private investigator after Edward Sariah, Edward Lynn, because I'm kind of pissed off about all this. Like, dude, just needs to come speak up, bro. It's been three years. What are you doing here? You're really going to make me send a private investigator after you to find you, which I will do. I have plenty of money to do it. I just don't want to spend the thousands of dollars when some guy can just pick up the phone and answer the phone and we don't have to be like weirdos about this, right? whatever. Okay. Anyway, sorry. I digress. >> Congressional steps and talking about what they know, these disclosures will still be made in a protected classified setting. But if you're going to let a crash retrieval operator who may have, you know, killed a civilian or may have done some illegal things, get amnesty, but you're not going to let like James Clapper. I think there would be some problems there. But I also think some of the mob bosses like James Clapper, some of these lifelong people in the programs are not going to come forward in that 60-day window. If if amnesty is is promised or given and thus they will face the penalty for for not uh once they're they're pursued, they would face the penalty. >> If we go down this path, nothing is going to happen. There's going to be no penalty. No one's going to prison. Guys, did you guys just not watch the Anthony Fouchy thing? Did anybody really think Anthony Fouchy was going to prison? Guys, you guys think any of these guys are going to prison? No. Not with any of the evidence that we have, but with the MH370 videos, they will go to prison. Absolutely. Because those videos are a crime. Because those videos were talked about. Because that plane was talked about on CNN for months. Because those families never got disclosure. They never got truth. And because now we can prove it was a military operation. It means Obama's National Security Council is directly implicated. Directly implicated in the in the event. The buck stops with the president and the person who were responsible for that. So once again, this is just another plea for about the thousandth time. The MH370 videos are the only chance, the only chance of us actually getting real catastrophic disclosure. They're the only chance. If you're hanging out for UFO file drop number 17 to give you the truth that the aliens are real, then you've already been played. Okay, last thing. He's about to say it here in a minute. Skip ahead a little bit. >> Their bodies, unexplained heat on their bodies that made them flee. Is that what you're talking about? Or are you talking about something more? >> And of course, I don't I don't I can't prove these stories. I I don't know if they're true specifically, but of individuals who have uh gotten close to specific military and north of Grumman sites and and claimed they had been um targeted by directed energy weapons as well, which is really intriguing. There's an allegation that I noticed Jesse Michaels ran on his recent American Alchemy um summary of all of these incredible allegations. I thought it was fantastic. >> It was great. >> And he did an analysis in which he mentioned an allegation that I was quite shocked to hear being made publicly, but seeing Jesse made it, I'm going to make it here, I know it's true, [sighs] that civilian aircraft have been inadvertently brought down by electromagnetic pulse weapons. Uh um what dude? What? Not what I expected to hear suddenly in the middle of this interview. Civilian aircraft have been taken down by electromagnetic pulse weapons. Well, that's a really really weird claim to be making. Hey, chat. Orb guy here. Chat. Orbs and goblets is my thing. Hold on. Let me give you the clip. Hold on, guys. Orb guy here. Gobblets. This is your thing. >> Orbs. >> Hold on. Hold on. I'll get it. >> Orbs and goblets. This is your thing. Orbs and goblets. >> Orbs and goblets, chat. Um, yeah, I know a little bit about electromagnetic pulse weapons taking down civilian airliners. It's kind of my thing, chat. I might be the number one expert in the world on electromagnetic weapons taking down civilian airliners. Turns out some electromagnetic weapons are so electromagnetic that they actually manipulate spaceime entirely. Turns out some nonequilibrium cold plasmas can break the Schwinger limit under the right conditions, which we won't talk about. We don't want to help help our adversaries, help our enemies, but you get the point. Uh, let's go ahead and rewind this because I'm still now I'm actually legit wondering like what is the other context these guys are talking about? They're clearly not talking about MH370, right? If they were talking about MH370, they would be acting different. This is not how they'd be acting. Ross Cohard is deathly afraid of me. That's why he doesn't ever mention me anymore. Deathly afraid. Weird. Let's go back. and he did an analysis in which he mentioned an allegation that I was quite shocked to hear being made publicly, but seeing Jesse made it, I'm going to make it here, I know it's true, that civilian aircraft have been inadvertently brought down by electromagnetic pulse weapons as part of the program's interdiction of non-human craft. Have Have you heard that allegation yourself? >> Yeah, I have. And unfortunately, I think that most of these aircraft downings were done incidentally, not purposefully, but >> No, they weren't purposeful. They were just incidentally caught up in the projection of the EMP weapon. >> An aircraft flies into a temporary flight restrictive zone, a TFR. And okay, I get the picture. So, they're saying that we [clears throat] were trying to shoot down alien spacecraft and then we accidentally took down some innocent civilian airliners. Maybe that's when we said we took made those people fly into the mountain. Maybe that's what they're talking about. that report, that story was out recently. Don't know, don't care. Anyway, let's go to the super chats, guys. That's it for tonight. I got to get ready. I got to do some stuff tonight. Thank you everybody in the pill chat. Methyl Candalicious Misadventure. Uh oh, Patriot 55, nice to see you guys. SM Ashboss and Not Yoda, thank you guys in the Rumble chat as well. In our YouTube chat today, Chaotic Good says, "I love it. Great job, ladies." Chat, I might be a fan of the WNBA. We just have to let these new brave brave ladies, strong African-American women gota we got to get some diversity. We gota get some diversity in the WNBA chat. Geez. Dobby with a throbbie says she's smarter and more attractive than Candace Owens. Absolutely. Thank you very much, Dobby. I appreciate that super chat. Very timely. Very timely. Timothy Foster says brain injury does not equal geometric superpowers. Professionally speaking, it actually reminds me of a Aquatine Hunger Force episode where Shake tries to give himself superpowers by through radiation and ends up just melting himself. Definitely reminds me of that chat. Yes. So, I think we're sending the wrong message when we're saying that the guy got bludgeoned and got superpowers. I think we just focus on the fact that he's working and building a fusion reactor and he knows all about fractals, right? Like that's the lead of that story. Pretty funny. Voice for good says it's called free market capitalism. Y thank you very much. Says mo move inventors to ethical business models. And one thing about this that people wonder I think I saw one of the Redditors commenting why doesn't S just go out on his own and build this. Well that's called being an entrepreneur. And part of the reason is that having an idea, knowing something about physics is a far reach from actually having a commercialized product. You say, "Oh, well, you can amplify energy." Okay, what are you going to do with it other than make a bomb? And when you say, "Well, I'm going to get into the energy business." Well, there's a lot of people in the energy business that have vested interest in making sure that you can't compete with them and that you're not successful. And you think they don't know about this already? You got to be thinking a little bit more a little bit more ahead. So my that's why my advice is don't build anything. Don't even worry about building. You can if you want and I encourage the people that do because we do need more independent people, but if you're smart, you put your money where the the people that already had know the games rigged are putting their money. Follow the Nancy Pelosi stock tracker basically. Trippy Savage says, "The Russian scapegoat is tired AF. I'm thinking that they've been in as a co-conspirator to keep the nuclear threat high and the national security in place. There's no way Russia is a threat to us." Why do I say this? Because we are depleting them in the Ukraine. And we have been depleting them for like a decade. And that is all of what's going on in the Ukraine. We're using that as a proxy war to to weaken Russia and it's successful. There's no way they can fight on that warf front and compete with us. They're struggling with just Ukraine, let alone with fighting against the most powerful country in the world with orbs. So, I agree. The Russian narrative has been clearly a scapegoat. Speaking of that, did you see that Hunter Biden was on with Tucker Carlson and they were trying to blame Israel for his laptop? You can't make this stuff up, chat. First they were trying to blame Russia and now they're going with Israel because now all they see the tides are turning on the internet against Israel. So they doesn't have to have any logic to it. How did Israel make Hunter Biden leave his laptop at the repair shop and not go pick it up? You got to ask that for yourself, chat. Don't ask these questions, chat. Anyway, Zaparoo Zapariah says, "Fantastic Sunday and today." Thank you. Can Lulu do a Wednesday show on her own? Thank you from the love from the zaps. Yeah, chat. We got to give Lulu some extra TLC. I'm starting to get worried about her. She's starting to get older now. Gotta got to spend as much time with her as possible. I appreciate it. One more thing I want to shout out for you guys, and I I don't necessarily owe it to them, but I want to shout them out, is the Tesla Tech Conference this week. I was trying to get in touch I actually I didn't really do a good enough job to I was meaning to get in touch with the person who runs the conference Tesla Tech it starts this week I think it starts on Thursday or Wednesday and even though I'm not really a B fan of Bernie I see him presenting right here that's fine he kind of went crazy on me but I did see that Brandenburgg is presenting at this I saw that Dr. U is presenting I don't know where his thing is here it is Dr. you is presenting. I think I also saw Thorston Lwig. At least I saw his name somewhere. I don't know if he's presenting. There he is. Thorston Lwig, who we've spoken, we've watched his video about speaking about how zero point energy makes magnetic motors viable as a free energy device. And Mo B King is also speaking. And of course, Bob Greener. Bob Greener, friend of the show. So, if you guys are in the area, if you're in Arizona, I think it's happening in Arizona. Let me figure out where it's at. Albuquerque, New Mexico, chat. If you're in Albuquerque, New Mexico this week, check it out, guys. Sounds like it's going to be pretty awesome. And if you're there, please say hi to all my friends out there. Also, I think Terren Howard is in the Is he on here somewhere? I see Terence Howard. Yeah, Terren Howard's there, too. Cool. I actually kind now that I see all this, I kind of wish I could have attended, but all good. Okay, guys. Oh, one more super chat. Couple more super chats at the end. Can you expand on Fire Chief NW? Can you expand on the idea of our souls being plasma? I don't think our souls are necessarily plasma. I think the idea is that our souls are actually external. The idea is that our bodies are a receiver and what we think of as our soul, as our consciousness is actually something that our brain is tapping into. Almost like there's a unique frequency that taps into your soul, your consciousness, your being. And then if this is true, this would explain how you could transfer consciousness because then your consciousness is this thing that's out here somewhere. It's not really inside of you. And now you just have to figure out a way to connect this to a different body. And this is why I at in the interview spoke specifically about, you know, when they teleport that plane, what if when they come out the other side, they're zombies? What if they're what if their consciousness has been disconnected or something like that? It's not beyond the realm of possibility. I that's why main reason why I'd be scared to do a teleportation myself. So, thank you for those super chats, guys. I love all you guys. Appreciate you guys. One thing I want to point out, some of you have been struggling with the Discord. Okay, so I had my brother check the Discord invite. It's kind of messed up, but I think he got it to work. He said it defaults you to the media footage channel. You need to move to the verification channel. And apparently the some of the verifications are weird, but if you do this the motorcycle and the scooter, he said it didn't work for them and then he did the UFO and then it finally worked. So, go to the verification channel in Discord, do the verification steps, press the faces, make sure you're a real human, and then it will let you in the Discord. If you are stuck in the Discord without a role, quit the Discord, rejoin, and redo the verification. Then, when you've done the verification, it will assign you a role. Hopefully, this ends the drama on the Discord thing. I apologize for for those uh struggles. Okay, guys. I'll be back on Friday. Wednesday, Gabe Diaz interview. Love you. MH370X. Peace out, guys. Later. [music] Out in the fields where the skies [music] are wide. Talking about a journey through the cosmic ride. Einstein and Thorn, [music] they set the stage for a trip through time across the space age. 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