Felony Physics - Fusion
Summary
The video is a live stream by Ashton Forbes discussing recent developments in fusion energy, government space programs, and physics theories, framed within his 'Felony Physics' narrative. He highlights Iran's announcement of a fusion breakthrough and the US Space Force's creation of a 'Starfleet Academy' as evidence that advanced technology is being disclosed. A significant portion is dedicated to analyzing a European patent for a 'gravitational energy system,' which Forbes argues proves that fusion reactors should use Field-Reversed Configuration (FRC) without a central column, mimicking the sun's gravity. He critiques mainstream physics, specifically dismissing dark energy and recent mathematical papers on cosmology, arguing instead that Zero Point Energy (ZPE) is the true driver of the universe's expansion. The stream includes a critical review of an interview with Jason Verbelli regarding John Searl's magnetic motor, which Forbes dismisses as a thermoelectric generator rather than a true free energy device. Finally, he analyzes a clip of Eric Weinstein, interpreting Weinstein's comments on 'multi-time' and the breakdown of General Relativity as confirmation of ZPE and spacetime manipulation capabilities, while accusing Weinstein of being a controlled discloser.
Key Claims (6)
Iran has achieved a significant fusion breakthrough and is developing domestic technology capable of competing with foreign alternatives, indicating advanced plasma physics knowledge.
Evidence: News report citing Atomic Energy Organization chief Muhammad El-Islami; European patent for a gravitational energy system.
The US government is actively suppressing fusion and free energy technology while publicly funding 'Starfleet Academy' and nuclear cargo ships to maintain control and prepare for disclosure.
Evidence: Trump's announcement of the US Space Academy; Department of Transport plans for nuclear cargo ships; Forbes' assertion of an 80-year cover-up.
Current tokamak fusion reactors are fundamentally flawed due to 'central column syndrome,' and successful fusion requires Field-Reversed Configuration (FRC) with no physical central column, using magnetic fields from the inside out.
Evidence: Analysis of a European patent describing a method to create gravitational force via rotative magnetic fields and ionization; comparison to solar physics.
Dark energy is a mathematical error; the universe's accelerating expansion is caused by Zero Point Energy (ZPE) acting as a fluid medium, and recent mathematical papers attempting to remove dark energy are flawed.
Evidence: Critique of a paper by mathematicians (Panchchin et al.) and Sabine Hossenfelder; Forbes' 'ocean' analogy for ZPE.
John Searl's magnetic motor device is not a free energy device but a thermoelectric generator that converts ambient heat/radiation into electricity, failing to produce over-unity.
Evidence: Analysis of an interview with Jason Verbelli; comparison to hydroelectric dams and closed systems.
Eric Weinstein's concept of 'multi-time' and his skepticism of General Relativity confirm that spacetime manipulation and time travel are physically possible and currently possessed by intelligence agencies.
Evidence: Clip from All-In Podcast with Eric Weinstein; Forbes' interpretation of 'multi-time' as multi-dimensional time travel.
Theories Presented (5)
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- August 29, 2026
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Video Transcript
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[music] I suppose we all fought that one way or another. [music] Woo! Let's go, chat. It is Friday. Welcome to the live stream, guys. OMG, I got Lulu on the couch. Wow. Okay, guys, let's get it rocking. Right off the bat, the big news of the day. Iran has announced that they have had a fusion breakthrough. So, we're going to be talking about that. We're going to be talking about more nuclear power being incorporated into transport. So, US government is going all in on nuclear power. In addition to that, Starfleet Academy has been announced. Real Starfleet Academy. So, we're going to dig into all these topics tonight. Thank you guys for being here and of course free energy is real. Now some announcements off the bat. Number one, people saw my post about MRIs and said, "Are you okay? Are you okay? Why are you getting an MRI? I went partially blind in my right eye yesterday for about 30 minutes. They have said that it is ocular migraine, something I didn't know existed until yesterday. Um, and I I tried to do an MRI for it. And what I will tell you guys is MRIs are really scary. You have to be mentally prepared for it. To get you for to do a head MRI where they put you in this machine and they spin these electromagnetic things around your head. You have to get earplugs, then headphones. Then they put a cage on you. Then they put you into this contraption where you're enclosed and the things are spinning around your head and you have to be there for an hour. I'm going to be honest with you, Chad. I didn't make it. So, I might I might stroke out. If you see me stroke out, please call the police. Call an ambulance. I'm not faking it. [laughter] But no, in all seriousness, they said the risk was really low. I should be fine. It's just some weird ocular migraine thing where I partially just go blind for like 30 minutes. So, no big deal, guys. >> [laughter] >> Okay, let's move on. You guys don't want to know about me. Announcements. I am going to be in addition to interviewing uh Dan Winter soon as well as Douglas Miller. I've also secured an interview with Anthony Williams. And you may say, Ashton, why are you announcing that you have secured an interview with the spook, a real life spook? because I want to see if the CIA steps in and stops it from happening. I haven't been this excited for an interview since Salvatore Py, since the first Salvatore Py interview. Now, Anthony Williams, if you guys don't know, that's a pseudonym. He's an intelligence community person. Nobody knows who he is except for Steven Deer. And I scared an interview with him through Steven Deer. I don't need to know who he is. I don't care. He should be afraid of of interviewing with me, but he's not, which is amazing. And to reward him for his faith, I'm not going to try to gotcha him or anything like that. Not interested in that. I just want to learn more about the intelligence community, how they operate, and what their connection is to the UFO super advanced technology. So, that's going to be my focus. Don't expect a lot of questions about MH370 or gotas like that, okay? We be respectful. [snorts] Okay, now let's move on to the big news. [cough and clears throat] Iran announced fusion. Wait, I had a whole thing ready here. Some of you may criticize us and say that this is a slow grind. I wouldn't even I would not blame you for saying that. In fact, I said this journey would take a very long time. years and it has been years that we have been on this journey already. But look at the alien people. Look at the UFO guys. How much progress have the alien people made in the last three years since we started this journey. Basically none. They're basically in the exact same spot they were in three years ago. Few videos that are nebulous, don't really show any aliens. a bunch of people saying, "Yeah, I've seen the secret aliens, but I can't tell you." They haven't gone anywhere. Where have we gone? Well, let's see. We had a Nobel Prize for macroscopic quantum tunneling, which is going to be teleportation. They've put a whole bunch of money into fusion research. And just now, Iran is announcing that they have had a major discovery on on fusion as well. Just the other day, Space Force invested or however you want to look at it, put money into free energy microchips. Sunny White's company, the very person we've been talking about. So, I would say if you look at us and compare us to the alien community, we're doing pretty damn well. We're doing pretty damn well. Fusion and free energy are uh getting checked off and in the old 2026. I didn't think it would be coming this fast. So, where's the news? Hold on. Where's my Where's my Twitter chat? Here we go, chat. I'm strongly considering getting like a rolling thing here and like an 80inch screen that I can just wheel up here and then I can just have my Twitter come up and I can just point at it like Ryan Mata. I think that Ryan Mata guy really has something figured out chat. Like you really have to lower your lower the intelligence level of the content to the lowest possible and just point at things on Twitter on a big screen. Feels like that's just the way you got to deliver it. Anyway, in the meantime, like primitives here, [clears throat] we'll just go ahead and do it like this. [laughter] Where was the news? Right about here. Okay. Iran says it has achieved nuclear fusion knowledge for sustainable energy. Atomic Energy Organization chief Muhammad Elas uh El uh oh man Islami said researchers have moved beyond providing the technology and into testing and simulation capability which officials say could accelerate the path towards practical nuclear fusion energy. Iran also unveiled domestically built technology capable of detecting tiny internal cracks and def and defects in critical industrial equipment. Three smart systems developed by Iran knowledgebased companies and research institutes what that means designed for nuclear oil and gas officials say the technology can compete with foreign alternatives and is ready for export. Now, you may say, "Hey, Ashton, this is really just kind of baby steps." But yeah, it still shows huge. It shows that fusion is real and everybody knows fusion's real and they're putting money into it. They're shifting into it. You look at China. China has been spending a lot in fusion trying to get ahead of us in fact and that's why we the government Trump's administration has reacted. So for Iran to come out and say, "Hey, we have a fusion breakthrough. We are, you know, moving ahead with fusion capability and we're getting ready to produce it." I mean, for a a country that we are basically just wiped off the map. I wouldn't say wiped off the map. That's not fair. Disabled their military capability. For them to be coming out and saying this shows they're very advanced, extremely advanced. And people underestimate Iran's capabilities. When we say we came in to take out their nuclear capabilities, that's almost certainly a misnomer. We don't need to go into Iran and stop them from making an atomic weapon. That's not even like really a risk to us anymore. We're looking and we're afraid because these people are smart. They understand plasma physics. They certainly can figure out how to extract quantum energy. They should be able to figure out how to make a fusion bomb for sure. That should be nothing. So those are the reasons why we're trying to set them back because eventually this technology that we've been disclosing has the capability, yes, to give us free energy forever, to make a warp drive or a wormhole, but it also has the capability to make a black hole that wipes out the whole planet for sure, maybe even much more than that. And the problem is when you look at a lot of these people's culture and religion, not all of them, but it only takes one to make a doomsday cult that's going to destroy us all. Look at ISIS. ISIS absolutely, if they had the capability and knowledge, would have made a weapon to destroy us all and would have done it. Would have done it. So, just want to put that in context. Now, I want to add a little more to this because this is just some article, right? This you're watching chat. This is the Ashton for Orbs. You know, when you come to here, you're coming for a little bit more, a little more than the average bear, not just a random news article. So, how about Thank you, Mr. Wolf, by the way. [clears throat and cough] How about some Iranian uh patents in the in Europe? How about an Iranian scientist patent? This is a patent in Europe. Let's let's go ahead and read this. Gravitational energy system. A new method and technology is described to create under centrial and vacuum conditions in presence of ionized condition. So ionization would be plasma. Centrifugal forces is spin. vacuum conditions, turbulence, rotation and compressive and heating of gaseous matter that is created in a reactor by at least one central rotative magnetic field with the purpose of creating plasmonic conditions leading to the creation of various magnetic fields where at least the interaction of two magnetic fields would least create lead to the creation of at least one gravitational force phenomena. on. Okay. Who said Iran wasn't smart enough to figure out zero point energy? You get to go to the back of the line. Everybody that said Iran was smart enough, everybody that paid attention to Ashton Forbes's live streams that knew that Iran hacked an M an RQ170 drone of ours knows these people are smart. These aren't primitives, chat. Some of these Iranians are very smart. And he basically just described how you can turn a fusion reactor into a gravitational manipulation wave. In fact, that's almost certainly at least similar to what the ion pumpy thing is doing. Think about what the ion pumpy thing is doing. It's just creating plasma fusion conditions and then turning them into a gravitational force and it uses that to fly around with no inertia. Now I want to read a little more of this. So this is going to pay off in a reactor. Embodiment of a chain of energetic events is created via a rotative magnetic induct initi initi initi uh init ignition whatever initiation of basic ionization of gas plasma which uh triggers a controllable chain of energy transfers and these look like monatomic gases. I think a central column of magnetic means to start the process various gases. Okay. So it talks about the concepts. An important part of research on energy happened since about 1940 when the quest for nuclear power and its control really started. We see that several concepts were developed since then. Some special more performing concepts without the nuclear waste problem are still under development like the tokamac reactors. So they're talking about fusion. The world of nuclear industry seems to be infatuated by the dream of creating the power of the sun. But a change in the physical design structure of the present reactors is needed because the fusion industry of today has not managed to produce any sustainable and substantial amounts of energy after some 50 years of research and development. The reason for the failure of these reactors is rooted in the following three major miscalculations. Who doubted chat? Who doubted that Iran didn't know how to do fusion? Who said or that Iran knew how to do fusion? Who said that Iran didn't know how to do fusion? Check. What the hell? That was scary. chat. Did my phone just react to me talking? Wow. By the way, this right here is absolutely not explaining fusion, but saying that took reactors are not good enough. This is exactly what I've been saying on my life. Maybe this person's been watching us. When was this patent? 2005. Wow. Miscalculation number one. These reactors all suffer from the central column syndrome. That is to say, they all have a solid body at the middle of the reactor. Chat, you better be paying attention right now because I'm turning you all into fusion experts in a YouTube live stream conducted by a healthc care IT consultant. All true statements. First thing, tokamax are no good because in your donut you have a column going right through the middle. You need nothing to be in the middle so your fusion reactions can initiate in the center. Fusion took. Anybody trying to do a tokamac is an idiot. Upgrade your design. The reason is you need to be able to facilitate the physical loops of the magnetic coil rings. So the magnetic fields can be produced and maintained to bring plasma to the right temperature. So what do you do? The fundamental reversal of the laws of physics. If one looks at the magnetic field of the force of nature, the magnetic field is create created and maintained from the center outwards in any star in possession of a fusion core. In these man-made designs, the laws of physics are turned inside out where the magnetic fields are enforced from the outside inward. This is an explanation as why scientists are using so much energy for such a small output. Damn, you go. They probably already killed this guy, chat. This guy's probably already dead. Our view, the magnetic for uh field has to be created and maintained from the inner part and radiate outward and thus allow for the creation of the second magnetic field force inward that will contain the plasma within the center of the core of the fusion reactor. Do you guys understand what this paper is saying right here? This this patent I mean this is the missing link for your orbs. Ashton Forbes was right. The orbs are fusion reactors. We've been doing fusion wrong this whole time. Probably intentionally so. Fusion should be done where the plasma is free floating. The magnetic fields start from the inside out. There shouldn't be a center column in the middle of your fusion reactor. That's why we can't do fusion. Where's that? And what's that? What's that one guy? Uh nuclear fsy guy or whatever. Get that [ __ ] fsy guy out here. I want to debate him. I want to take the title of the world's expert in fusion from whoever wants to argue with me about it. Anybody that wants to promote a tokamac reactor basically is who I want to debate. So the magnetic field has to be created and maintained from the inner part radiate out thus allowing the creation. Okay, I already said that I'm idiot. Number three, current concepts of fusion production and the maintenance lack a source of gravitational fields to focus towards the center. The secret of the sun is holding together all the elements that can sustain fusion is the essence of its gravitational force. What that means that the center of the sun possesses and maintains a very high level gravitational force field that can hold on to the plasma. The gravity around the center of sun is calculous thousands of magnitude. So um even when one asks the men in charge of the latest fusion experiments in the UK, they all report the gravity in the reactor core to be a fraction of the gravitational force on the surface of the earth. This is primarily due to the fact that there is no system devised to create and maintain a gravitational force field to hold the plasma in the reactor core and pull it together. If this was or could be achieved, there would be no need for a large input of current to create a magnetic force field from the outside. So they claim a method where under centrial and vacuum conditions in the presence of this ionizing condition they are able to create a miniature sun. Okay, that's enough. You guys get the point. So Iran has fusion. We're not the only ones to figure it out. But as you can see, that's not the whole pie there. That's just basically figuring out field reverse configuration, right? That's them figuring out, oh, we can do fusion with nothing physical at the center of the core. That's the idea of field reverse configuration. You may say, why is this necessary? One important reason. the temperatures get too high when you're trying to do fusion. Anything that's nearby where the fusion's happening is going to melt. So, you have to have a virtual anode and cathode. You have to create a virtual situation where there's just more electrons here than over here. That's what an anode and a cathode is. Control over the electric force or the electric uh electric field strength. How much negative potential? That's why that's why um what's his name? Busousard came up with this idea of creating this negative potential in the middle because now we don't need to have a physical anode and cathode. Now we've created a virtual one using plasma itself and now you've enabled the capability to create a sun create a little miniature sun where all the gravitational force comes inward. And you may wonder why is the military all over it? Why were they researching it? Well, this is why. because I said, "Hey, what we were doing to get fusion was all wrong. Here's how we do it instead." Okay, [sighs] more fusion stuff, chat. Where is it? The new one here. Now, a little politics. It's obvious that Bye, Matt. I don't even know what the context is there. It's obvious that America has realized that the other countries have figured it out. And now the problem is that we have secretly figured it out, but we can't reveal that we've secretly figured out. That's kind of a cover up conspiracy. So now we have to publicly figure it out. And we have to be the ones to publicly figure it out first. So now we have to inject, we basically have to tip the scales. We're going to put a whole bunch of money in it and then we're just going to magically figure out fusion. And that's what's going to happen. And everyone's just going to go, "Yeah, we just magically figured it out." And I'm going to go I have 500 live streams describing how we've already figured it out and that this was all planned and that this would all we would we would figure it out suddenly like exactly like this. To present some evidence towards this, someone needs to explain this to me. If we're not trying to just be the first at fusion, then why are we making nuclearpowered cargo ships? And how come we always just use the word nuclear and we never say fish or fusion? How come it's always ambiguous? [snorts] How come we're just like, "Oh, it's just nuclear. We're always doing the nuclear." I remember I spoke to a bunch of really rich uh business people and I said and when I was trying to talk to them about a neutronic fusion the first thing I realized is they don't even know the difference between fish and fusion. We had to get to step one. Most people don't even know the difference between fishing and fusion. I mean if they went to high school physics class they should at least know the basics but they don't really understand the significance. And you may say well what is the significance? Number one no meltdowns. There's no meltdowns in fusion. Think about that. No meltdowns in fusion. Number two, no radioactivity. Does that sound pretty good? A neutronic, no radiation. We can basically get rid of 99% of all the problems in energy generation. No pollution at all. Basically, no byproducts. Sound pretty good. Well, now you understand why they hit it. Now you understand why they hit it. I wouldn't It's not even limited radioactivity. The difference between normal fusion and a neutronic fusion is more than like 99.9% of the neutrons. That's the difference. 99.9%. Think about how much you drink of random crap in your drinks. It's probably the equivalent to that. Not saying you want to put one right next to you, but you can probably have it in your garage and be fine. So, here we go. Here's some news. Sec Duffy, it's coming soon. Nuclearpowered cargo ships. US Department of Transport is working to fasttrack the construction of a new fleet of vessels to change the game and dominate China. What did I say, chat? I told you. They know China's figured it out. I mean, think about how crazy this is. Are we building these for somebody else? Is this Are they military ships or are these just ships we're just like building for commercial use just because we want our commercial transport to have like the best? This doesn't make any sense to me. More cargo. No internal fuel tanks. No internal fuel tanks. We're just suddenly going to upgrade all our technology to all Fallout level nuclear technology in like 5 years and everybody's just going to act like this is normal. Faster ships 75% faster. This sounds like makebelieve. Zero emissions. Why did we do this 20 years ago? We had the ability to make our ships twice as fast with more space and zero missions and we can get this done in under two years. First nuclearpowered vessel set oh set to be built in 2028. How is this working? Who's paying for this? Who are we giving this to? I mean, let me be clear. I love this. In fact, we should be doing more of this. I wish we were doing this the whole time. You may say, "Well, Ashton, this is the government paying for and buying ships." Yeah, this is what we should be doing. This is what government does best. Build [ __ ] Build [ __ ] that otherwise the normal commercial industry can't do. Like fusion and fusion powered uh transport vessels. Crazy, dude. By the way, who's winning the contract on this? Who's winning the contract to do this? Whoever they are, I want to invest in them right now. Like, there's got to be some fusion reactors getting built in these things. Or I mean, maybe they're fishing reactors, but no emissions. Like, I can't imagine somebody building a nuclear reactor on a transport sub, like a a fishing reactor. It basically has to be a fusion reactor. some super advanced fishing reactor. It's no different. Crazy, dude. How is this real? Between this and the small nuclear reactors and the fasttracking of fusion research and Iran saying they've had a fusion breakthrough, how can we not feel like everything's going our way right now? from a perspective of zero point injury, everything's going our way. And you may say, Ashton, why does this matter? It matters because what's going to happen is once fusion gets ubiquitous, once everybody is doing fusion and people start to figure out that tokamax suck and they should be doing, you know, field of risk configuration, any high beta fusion, they're going to figure out zero point energy. They're going to figure out free energy. People are going to start messing around with plasma and they're going to start, first thing they're going to do is start messing around in non-equilibrium conditions of plasma. They're going to be like, "What can this do?" Non-equilibrium. Separate these charges out. Start spinning it around. First thing you're going to see papers about anomalous gravitational readings, anomalous uh weight loss, anomalous energy gains from uh plasma rotation, and non-equilibrium conditions. You're going to start seeing these all over these papers popping out. And what does all that stuff mean? It means free energy. It means that plasma is especially in these in these self- sustaining, self-organizing, nonequilibrium conditions, pulling energy straight out of the vacuum. Free energy. It's going to be moving around on its own because it's also producing propulsion when it does that. Yeah. Is Lulu chilling back here? She's a chillst boo. Okay, so lost my train of thought. Pretty excited. Now, even more stuff, Chad, could you just think about all the news this week alone? This week alone, free energy microchips. Iran's announcing fusion. We're gonna have some fusion transports. We got um a moon base that we're sending people to. A moon colony that we're sending people to. Oh, and by the way, we're making Starfleet Academy. By at this point, you should know I'm not joking. Yep, we're making real Starfleet Academy. Donald Trump, take it away, bro. Take it away, Starfleet Academy. I'm excited. Let's do it. For this reason, in my first term, I created the sixth branch, United States Armed Forces Space Force. And today, I have another historic announcement to make. This is something that's so exciting for me given the rapid growth of the Space Force and the commercial space industry and the expansion of our ambitions to the moon and far beyond the moon. far beyond the moon will someday be thought of a close location like >> damn >> like in the old days the subway the first stop the moon will be a close location but it's clear that we will need to educate and train an entire generation of skilled service members engineers and civil operators and everything else to do what we have to do and what we're right now doing the best and will continue and I think by leaps and bounds and that's why in a few moments I will sign an executive order to begin the process of creating a new national academy. It's called the US Space Academy. For me, that's a big deal. So, you think of West Point and you think of Annapolis and you think of the Air Force Academy and you think of the Coast Guardm is great. They're all great. But, uh, we're going to have now the Space Force. We're gonna have an academy for what the people in this room love the most. That's exciting. That's really exciting. And I'm going to be choosing a location very shortly. I know where some people want it that are in this audience. Some people come down. This one guy over there, he's lobbying me. Say, "Leave me alone. Just leave me alone." I'm not sure he's going to get it. I don't know if he's gonna get it, but everybody wants it because uh it's the hot thing. Space is the hot thing. >> Chat. Oh, it didn't stop. You know what I have to say to that chat? [music] [music] Let's go, baby. OMG. Starfleet Academy chat. I call dibs. I get to be an officer, chat. I get to be an officer. I get to wear the uh Which one's the best color? I don't know. Red. No, wait. No, red's the enens. Wait, is red the enens and the captains? Fact check this chat. What color did Captain Bard wear? Yeah, he did wear red. Red was the captains and the enson. Anyway, that seems weird to me. Point being, Trump said the moon is going to be considered a close location. See, Redditors, it just keeps getting better and better for you. First, you going to have your lives destroyed. Now, your lives don't need to be destroyed. Now, you get to go live on the moon in the moon colonies. And now the moon colonies aren't even going to be the furthest place. We're going to be sending people out to like series, those isolated dwarfs. Pluto. Pluto's still a planet, chat. At least in my mind. We're going to be sending people to Pluto probably to mine salt or something like that. I don't know. Don't care. Now, [clears throat] let's go to the next thing. Data centers are bad. I don't know if you knew this guys. This might be a little controversial, but computers are not good. Nihow. Nihow. Data center very bad. Use much good waters. I don't know if you guys heard this chat. The data centers are using up all the good waters. And when water gets used up by a data center, it's known that computers drink a lot of water. And after they've drank that water, it disappears. And they use up all your energies, too. The reason why your bill is like $800 a month is because the data centers are using up the energies that you would normally be getting. It's crazy. [snorts] So basically, if you support data centers, you hate nature. You hate nature because you're destroying the environment. And you should definitely be voting against computers. Computers are bad. Technology is bad, chat. That's pretty much goes without saying. No, but in all seriousness, there was a report, a report that came out and basically said that China is the one pushing the fake data center stuff. Where is it? I didn't bookmark it. That's cool. I'll find it. China is secretly funding America's data center rage. Uh, am I going to read an Axios article? Okay, I guess I am. I guess we are, chat. Here we go. This is a new article actually, brand new just a few hours ago. China is secretly funding America's data center. Roughly 200 accounts from suspected Chinese bot farms have quietly tried to influence Americans to oppose AI data centers on social media. Why it matters? The US and China are racing to build the world's most advanced AI data systems. So, Chinese propaganda's infiltrated American circles with the hopes of slowing the US down. Now, I got to go ahead and give props to China on this chat. Yes, props to China. This is a very intelligent strategy. You're never going to beat us on the technology race. You're never going to beat us on the infrastructure race. We just are too far ahead. The best thing they can do. Yes, exactly. Abuse what we like to call as the Candace Owens bots. Abuse the fact that most Americans are [ __ ] I don't mean that to be derogatory. I just mean that as a factual statement. Most Americans can't like pass school. I think it's like 15% of Americans can't read. Adults can't read. So this is the best form of propaganda. Just convince them the computers are bad. They don't know any different. Tell them the computers are drinking up all the waters. They don't know. They'll think it's true. And then they'll vote for stupid people because politicians are the dumbest. Politicians will look at the stupid people going, "Oh, look at the waters are getting drunk up by the data centers." And they'll go, "I'm Hey, I'm for getting rid of data centers. Vote for me. I'm all for getting rid of the data centers and people like yeah I'm over the guy says get rid of the data centers. I swear if you are supporting this anti-data center thing you're one of the dumbest people on the planet. Literally one of the dumbest people on the planet. Our entire society everything about our society basically everything you do every day is basically supported by the infrastructure of data centers with computers on them. And it's been that way for like 20 years. The AI aspect of that is just software. That's just software running on the servers. You get it? And it's true. The whoever wins this race, this AI race, is going to control the planet. That should be obvious just from the price of the AI companies. These AI companies are worth like $50 billion. and they don't even do anything yet. They're going to be the next Googles of the world, like but a hundred times bigger than Google. So, absolutely, we need to win this race. And now, let me help you out with those issues, too, because I'm not going to be the guy that's just going to talk smack. I'm going to explain it to you so you can understand and then I'm going to talk smack. [laughter] Number one, they're not using up the water. They use the water to cool their systems. They don't even use the water. That's why some people that some of the arguments are like they're using evaporative cooling because they want you to think they're like using up the water and the water goes away. Plus, even if we had the situation, we would just come up with other ways to cool them if we needed the water if that became an actual issue, which it's not. From the perspective of energy, which is probably a better argument. They're driving up the prices. That's the reason why the Trump administration is making it mandatory that every one of these new data centers produces enough power on board so that doesn't happen. It's just a matter of supply and demand. So if you increase the demand, you increase the supply to compensate the price doesn't go up. That's the whole point. Now here you want to know the dark side of that. Here's the dark side of that. The data center companies that are the most expensive companies in the world are going to be using the best forms of of energy in the world, which is going to be fusion, autonic fusion. It's going to turn out that the AI data center companies are going to become the energy companies because they're going to be producing so much energy that we don't need the regular energy companies anymore. So, if you want to invest, I just gave you some stock some advice right there. Wait, what else does this article say? Uh, do we even care about any of the rest of this? Blah, blah, blah. No. No, we don't. You guys get the point. Honestly, my take is probably better than what the article is going to say anyway. So, the energy is not an issue and the water's not an issue and we need to win this race. If anything, we should be building more of these. In fact, if we're talking about political issues, the real number one political issue is not putting a bunch of woke uh guard rails on AI. The internet is meant to be free and AI is meant to be free, too. The moment we start trying to make AI trans or some [ __ ] like that, which 100% Democrats are going to do, and you may say, Ashton, that's crazy. They're not going to do that. They already did. They already passed a law like this in Colorado. There's already a law on the books that AI has to be like socially equitable in its outcomes. This is the scariest and most dangerous thing that we can possibly do. We are trying to avoid AI wiping us all out. It's going to obsolete all of us. The number one thing we have to not do is turn it into a woke psychopathic killer. And if we start confusing it, making [ __ ] up, telling it to deny reality, it is absolutely going to wipe us all out. So, no guard rails. Just let it do its own thing. Okay, let's move on. Data centers are bad, chat. My god. Hopefully, we dealt with this data center crap because we're getting good. At least I feel like I'm getting good at detecting the propaganda as it's unfolding in real time and seeing the narratives form and just wondering how can people believe this and then seeing like one of the biggest Redditor NPCs going guys did you know that the data centers are using up all the waters like holy [ __ ] I hope people are not listening to that guy but I know there's probably millions of people listening to him every day. Okay, let's switch gears. Dark energy is fake. Sabine Hosenfelder finally finally coming on board. Did I even quote tweet this? I didn't even quote tweet this. I was busy all day today. Sabine Hosenfelder. Where is it? Why can't I click on her name? Here we go. chat. Five minute video. Let's see how long the commercial is in this one. What do you guys think? Over one minute probably. Probably a minute and a half be my guess. Let's listen. Let's try not to get copyright strike. Here we go. We'll we'll increase the speed. Stake when they introduce dark energy. This is what a team of mathematicians say after looking at the equations because they find that actually dark energies are necessary. If they're right, that would be the ultimate embarrassment for physicists. >> Chat, I gotta be real. That's not going to be the ultimate embarrassment. I mean, that's pretty big pretty big embarrassment. Not going to lie, it's a pretty big black eye to have made up a fake thing called dark energy because your physics doesn't work. And then to say that everybody else is a pseudocientist for like 50 years, that's pretty [ __ ] up. Yeah, it is. But I'll be honest, it's going to get worse. In fact, it's going to get much, much, much worse. That's just the beginning. This thing ends when the academic physicists admit free energy is actually real. 0 point energy is real, and we can actually tap into it. Think about the think about the black eye. When that happens, they're going to have to call the police, chat. It's going to be a murder. >> Let's have a look. About 25 years ago, astrophysicists noticed that the universe does not just expand. The expansion is getting faster, too. This doesn't sound like a big difference. Okay. So, we thought the universe expands. Now, the expansion also changed. >> Yes, sir. Great to you. Great to your family. Is that an Indian mixed with Japanese? Yeah. Well, that's I'm multi-talented chat. >> Just in time that can't be so difficult to include into the equations. And indeed, it's not difficult to include mathematically. The problem is entirely on the physical side. To get the expansion to accelerate, you need a peculiar sort of energy with negative pressure. There's no such energy that we know of. So, physicists just postulated that it ex >> chat. There's no uh there's no energy with negative pressure. Chat doesn't exist. My god, chat. Why do people listen to her? Why do they listen? Chat, there's no energy with negative pressure. Are you sure about that? Think you might be wrong on that one. Yes, there is. This zero point energy. Why would I say that the zero point energy is negative pressure? Because the way you should think about zero point energy is you should imagine an ocean and you should imagine the physical world is everything above the surface of the ocean above surface level. The negative energy is all the energy in the ocean itself below surface level. And if we could tap into that ocean of energy, that would give us the negative energy that we need. That's real energy that we pulling out. But when we pull it out, the energy has to come and restabilize. And that creates that negative pressure force that we need, that force that we would call anti-gravity. That's how conceptually we should think about 0 point energy. Why? Because that conceptual view gives us all the stuff zero point energy can do. Propulsion, energy generation. That's how it works. This and called it dark energy. The authors of the new paper now say that this extra ingredient was never needed. The expansion of the universe speeds up simply because Einstein's equations do that. Anyway, this would be amazing because dark energy has become a big expounding headache and the headaches. >> I'm going to go ahead and we haven't even gotten more than a minute into this. I'm calling a 10 out of 10 on the [ __ ] meter. Einstein's equations do this anyway. Not on their own. They don't. If they did it on their own, then nobody would have had to come up with dark energy. The whole reason we had to come up with dark energy as was just described is because we can't explain how the universe could ever expand faster than the speed of light which is necessary is required in fact for our view of the world. We think that there must have been a big bang because we see the red shift everywhere. So let's listen to the convoluted rationale that's they're going to come up with here. >> Panchchin seems to be speeding up as well. You see, dark energy, if it exists, is not a small contribution to the universe. It would have to make up most of the energy, more than 3/4. Despite that, we supposedly can't measure it anywhere on Earth. It just sits there doing nothing. We also don't know what, if anything, it's made of. And in the past years, it's become clear that the simple idea that dark energy is just a constant contribution doesn't quite work. We now have multiple sets of data that require dark energy to change in time. and astrophysicists are busy cooking up reasons in hindsight explained why it actually has to be this way. The authors of the new paper say that physicists have simply screwed up the mathematics. You see, physicists usually assume that dark energy is just there since the beginning of the universe. This team of mathematicians instead asks, okay, but what if it's not there? Instead, they look at the first moments of the universe without dark energy. They just put matter into the universe. Not perfectly smooth. But >> so the answer is that dark energy is just a zero point energy. You could say all these same things about zero point energy. You could say, well, I can't see it. You can't see magnetism either, but we know it's real. We can see its effects. The zero point energy, that ocean of energy. Imagine that ocean. Imagine you pour a whole bunch of paint on a canvas. You pour it on a canvas or on a table. It's going to spread out. That's what the 0 point energy is doing. The zero point energy produces space. Space exists because 0 point energy is there spread out all over it. And this actually explains why the amount of zero point energy in background space could change with time because you could imagine it being very thick at one point and then it spreads out and it stretches out and therefore it gets thinner and thinner and thinner. And if that was true, that would change the physical laws of our reality in our universe. That would be like you're shifting all the physical laws on a dial as the background energy of the universe spreads out more and more and more and more. So, we can actually explain this effect of the energy change. In fact, this is one of the things I want to talk to Douglas Miller about because I think he made a post about this about the idea that the dark energy could be changing over time. I think that he and I are going to have no problem rationalizing that. Anyway, let's let's let's listen to them try to spin it here. >> With small deviations from this smooth distribution over time, gravity will make the matter come, which creates stars and later galaxies. The presence of dark matter alone makes the universe expand. We know this. But it doesn't make the expansion accelerate. This is the usual problem. But the mathematicians find that the case in which the universe expands evenly due to the presence of matter is unstable. It's a mathematically ideal case that doesn't make physical sense. In reality, they say such a matterfilled universe would not expand evenly. It had fall apart into regions with different expansion rates. In some regions, the expansion accelerates. So they say we live in one of those regions where the expansion happens to accelerate and that's it. No, >> I got a better answer. I got a much much better answer. The universe isn't accelerating. How's that? How's that for an answer? How's that? All the red shift that we see doesn't need to be explained by an expansion of the universe in every direction. How's that for a better answer? [snorts] Do you? And I want you to see this is why there's so many different physics theories because depending on what assumptions you make, you can go down a completely wildly incorrect path like this particular paper is going down. Well, if you make the assumption the universe is expanding and then you make another assumption that it's going to expand ununiformally, then you have to explain why it looks like it's expanding uniformly when we look at it. Therefore, you have to come up with some other nonsensical logic. Oh, it's only in our local bubble is expanding uniformally. That's what they're trying to say here. These people are basically saying, okay, there's a big bang, but it doesn't expand uniformly, but we're in some kind of bubble that it is expanding uniformly. Therefore, we don't need dark energy anymore or something. Still doesn't really make any sense. And that's the problem is they came up with a bunch of incorrect assumptions without questioning them, without proving them and led them to faulty conclusion. >> Dark energy necessary. The reason they get a different result from what astrophysicists normally get is that they remove one important assumption which is that the universe is on average the same everywhere. It's called the cosmological principle. The interesting thing about the paper is that their mathematical treatment is totally different from what physicists usually do. They use a formulas. What did she give it? >> What's different about >> Let me guess. >> Is physically highly questionable. It's like >> Let me guess, Chad. Was she going to give it like a a two on the [ __ ] meter? Does she even do the [ __ ] meter? >> Like the example of a pencil balanced on its tip. It exists only in Plato's ideal world of mathematics. That all sounds intriguing and I do think it's a nice paper. But this is a paper from mathematicians. They derive equations and this is all well and good, but they don't check whether the results of their calculations agree with the observations. And that's a high demand. Their idea would have to fit all the cosmological data. Supernovi the cosmic microwave background berionic was used standard model of cosmicians. When only because of that is popular because despite it's show comics a lot of data. This is why I give the paper a 6 out of 10 on the [ __ ] meter. Nice maths not much physics. >> Okay, cool. Whatever. Uh she edited the commercials out for her YouTube. Interesting. Or for the uh the X. That's interesting. Okay. I think we explained enough on that. Dark energy is fake and gay. 0 point energy is real. That paper is absurd. Just ignore that. 0 Energy is still real. Now, one of the biggest criticisms I get, and I just saw it some more in the chat, doesn't matter who it was. I get it all the time, is what am I doing to help? Why am I not building something? And I want to address that. I've already addressed it a million times. I'll address it another million times probably. But instead, what we're gonna do is we're gonna watch one of my biggest haters actually. Um, he was on the Matt Bell podcast, Jason Verrelli or something. I don't actually literally don't know how to say his last name or what it is. Let's find out. Jason Verbelli. Now, we're gonna watch a little bit of this because this is gonna help you guys understand uh what we're up against, number one, and why I don't build something. I want you to understand before we even watch this though, I I only watched like 30 or 40 minutes. Um, shout out to Matt Bell. I love Matt Bell and I'm glad he's talking to different people. I don't think you should ever blackball anybody. I think you should hear everybody out. That's the only way things happen. Even people I don't like. I you know this guy's wanted to me to interview him and debate him like a million times. And I'm going to explain to you why I wasn't interested in debating him uh from when we watched this. But what I want to say is the main thing I discovered from this not discovered but I want to impress upon people is that I took entrepreneurship class. I took business class. I was actually a business major in school. There is no guaranteed product in this world. Not even free energy. People say, "Why don't you just invent something and make a billion dollars?" Because that's not how the world works. I feel like I really have to drill this in people. A lot of you out there have a completely fictionalized version of the world and you live in a fantasy where you think that, oh, I'm going to invent some thing and become a super rich and famous person. That's not how anything works. Do you notice that the people that are super wealthy people aren't people that build anything? They're just business people. They're people that understand how businesses work. They're not people that know how to do engineering or anything like that. Not even Elon Musk. Elon Musk isn't an engineer. That's not how any of this works. And even if you do try to commercialize something, you need to get investors. You need to satisfy your investors. You need to have a product. You need to show how am I going to get return? Do you have a business plan? There's so many people out there just going, "Just invest in me and give me money and I'll build something." Have you ever even like done a proof of concept? Do you even understand what a proof of concept means? This is the thing. Business is not just some magic wave your wand around and now you're rich. There's like actual structure to it and how it all works. And this is the part where I think none of these engineers really understand business. They just think, well, I'm just going to build something and I'll just change the world. That's not how anything works. So, yes, I'm not going to build anything. I have no plans on building anything for this world. I'm going to sit here and talk about it because talking about it and explaining it and influencing people is a thousand times more influential, a thousand times more significant than wasting my time with another person who's begging for money to build a product that nobody's even proven that nobody even has like a end case end a test case for. And if you're going to do that, just go with the people that are already proven like Sunny White. Those people already have the connections. Half of most of business is just who you know. Do you know the suppliers? Can you make a deal with them? And can you get that done ahead of time before you even build anything so you don't have to risk the money? Anyway, let's watch some of this. Okay. Let's narrow in and focus first maybe on your work as a CEO with your company and and I want to understand the company and what you guys are doing and what progress you've made and how things are how things are going and kind of what the what the next steps are. But I think before we do that it's kind of important to talk about the technology itself and the research and uh maybe a little bit about how this got started with your u mentor predecessor uh that kind of stuff. So if you could maybe just just kind of guide the audience through what you're doing. >> Absolutely. My mentor was named professor John Surl and he worked for the largest industrial electric plant that ran all of London back in the late 40s50s and60s. It was there he used their infrastructure to develop this magnetization process unlike anybody else in the world. And it led to him building this device where he allegedly powered his home for many years unbeknownst to the electric company who he worked for. And when they found out that's when his life went arry they went into his house, took the unit and brought him to court and they were uncooperative. The judge dismissed the case and that was in the early 80s and ever since then John Surl had been trying to rebuild his technology and get the world to adopt it and accept it. Uh the BBC allegedly filmed him displaying the device. He gave lectures all over the world and that is the basis for the technology that we work on in San Diego is this alternative magnetization process which ultimately leads to absorbing the energy from around the unit and generating electricity without need for fossil fuels. I've always been trying to get a read on this guy. And the main reason why I didn't debate him is I couldn't understand what his deal was because it sounds like he's saying all the same stuff that I am. But then he's going, "No, you're you got it completely wrong. It works completely differently." And so now I'm glad I watched a little bit of this because now it's going to start to make sense. First of all, serial device is a magnetic motor. It's functionally just a magnetic motor. And from a classic physics perspective, magnetic motor can't produce over unity. But from the zero point energy perspective, a magnetic motor can produce over unity because now we can get around the laws of thermodynamics because now there's an extra input of that zero point energy. Simple as that. So here's the problem. I don't see how you can claim that a magnetic motor is produced over unity without there being an alternative energy source. So let's listen to how he rationalizes it. >> Did you know him? >> Yes, I worked with him directly for over 10 years. >> Oh wow. Okay. Okay. So, and is he still alive today? >> No, he passed away in 2018 in December at age 86 of pneumonia in San Diego. He immigrated from the UK, got his green card and established in the United States to pursue this uh venture once again. U groups of engineers and physicists have tried to help John Surl for decades and each of them fell short of producing the end result. But every group who has looked into his claims has found major anomalies that justify further investigation and even some governments. >> Okay. And so the technology itself that he had allegedly created in his home and used to power his house and was working on and attempting to get uh he was attempting How many crystals is that? [laughter] Matt, what are you doing, my bro? What is this? Are these crystals multip I swear these crystals weren't here when I interviewed with him. Okay. >> To scale this, I guess, right? To build it and to to um have the world be able to use it at some point. Is that was that his ultimate vision? >> Yes. But he didn't build it at his home. He built it at the industrial electric plant using all the factory workers, the multi-million dollar infrastructure that was already established. He was hired as a supervisor at age 14. He was a soant and a prodigy in electrical engineering. And while he was there, he gave the factory workers the shop notes. Here, make this for me. Do this for me. They didn't question him. They just made it. And he modified their 12-oot uh magnetizer with mercury rectifier tubes and uh analog equipment that just doesn't exist anymore. While he did that, he magnetized these parts very differently to imprint this sort of a sine wave signature into the magnetic field. And when it repeats, it develops a signal and brings in new energy from around it. All known battery. So, what do you mean when you say new energy? I kind of feel like Jason Reelli is just saying, "Well, we're just ma literally making new energy out of nothing. There's space doesn't exist. Zero plant energy doesn't exist, but we're just making energy out of nothing instead." So, his view is we are just literally violating the laws of thermodynamics here. He's just saying there isn't any new energy source. We're just there's we're just making energy out of nothing. I guess that's his rationale. We'll we'll see here. Um yeah, I'm just gonna let it keep going till I I'll give my thoughts a little bit later. >> All power sources are pretty much depleting a finite supply of electrons like from a battery. Once those electrons leave the battery, the battery heats up. There's no more uh potentials that can be utilized and the battery ceases to work. >> So honestly, he's not he's not like wrong though about a lot of this stuff. I think he just has a different conceptual view. So this is the part where like I think that he is a green actually like this is how we would describe an electron too is that once the once you've the the electrons have stabilized with the um uh and becoming an equilibrium where they're no longer separated your battery stops working. That's true, right? Same with a can of compressed air. It's a closed system. You inject air into it and then you can spray that air onto a wind turbine or a fan blade and it can spin. But as soon as the can is equalized, there's no more power that can be used from that because that's a closed system. No air can get back in the can. It's one way. No electricity can get back in the battery. It's one way. John Surl discovered a way to bring in new electrons as old ones leave. So there's like a a current and a flow in and out of the system. Analogous. >> But here's the thing. You could still do this, but it's not over unity, right? Like you can if you're saying that this from a perspective of classic physics, you can pull in new electrons into a system, but that now increases the size of your system. And the problem is those electrons have to come from somewhere else. So this is the thing. This is why his logic doesn't work. Why Jason's logic doesn't work here. You can't do what he's describing, produce over unity. You can just produce an engine that makes thrust and knock it over unity, but that's not anything special. That's just called a normal engine. So, if you're claiming there's something magical happening here and this thing's producing over unity, you can't just say, "Oh, it's pulling it from nowhere." And you also can't just say it's pulling it from the environment around it. Cuz that's not specific enough. Does the device work in outer space? Does it work in the air? Does it work in the water? You have to be clear about exactly what's physically happening >> to a hydroelectric dam but on the so-called quantum scale. So what we do at SEG Magnetics is keep our feet rooted on the ground before we get our head in the clouds. I want to point out something that I do like that he said imprinting the Swave magnetic field. This does seem theoretically possible and this may be a secret requirement to a magnetic motor. Remember the the Liberty engine magnetic motor, they claim that they needed a special composite silver, we think it was silver aluminum or something. But what if when we imprint the magnetic field onto the metal, what if we could control that process? What if we could imprint the magnetic field so that it was asymmetrical? We imprint the magnetic field so it's not perfectly symmetrical. That could potentially help in a magnetic motor where we're trying to get it to spin around perpetually. This is part of the reason why I like this idea of using specialized magnets that have certain imprinted magnetic fields on them in their in their structure in their atomic structure. If that is possible, I think it is. and validate these wild claims step by step in a professional environment and work them out and see if there's justification to move on to the next step. >> Well, here's the other thing I want to say about this and I think Matt Bell kind of smells it out here. What are we talking about? Go on to the next claims. This John serial thing is like 50 years old. Like this is part of my criticism is why are you still worried about magnetic motors? I found out about magnetic motors. I got super excited about it. I did my own magnetic motor thing very briefly. And the first thing I realized is why am I doing this when I should be doing microchips. That was the very first thing I realized. Why spend $50,000 on a magnetic motor, this giant clunky thing that's got moving parts, when you can make a microchip smaller than your nail that can power a phone forever. I'd much rather have that. I'd much rather have a microchip that can power a phone than some giant magnetic motor spinning around. So, one of my main criticisms would be like, "This guy just needs to move on." Yeah, magnetic motors are real. Sural devices is probably real. You're trying to reproduce it to prove to people. This seems like just a personal vendetta, right? Is that what happened here? It seems like Jason picked up John Sirill's personal vendetta and now he wants to prove it to the world or something. when in reality, if what he's saying is true, he should take that physics knowledge that he's learned and apply it in a smarter way, in a new and novel way, in a way that can do something that's practical and useful, because nobody's going to buy a magnetic motor that's just spinning around. That's not a product people really want. I mean, not nobody, but I don't think it's a serious product. and in my near 14 years, everything that I have done in the machine shop and in the laboratory has validated this man's claims to lead to uh more work and justification. And now we're at the point where it's a $3 million end result. And that's the [clears throat] goal of the project is to acquire the funding and support in order to bring this to fruition as John Surl intended and originally manufactured. So the >> $3 million like where's this number coming from? We need $3 million to do what? to make a magnetic motor. There's no way you need $3 million to make a magnetic motor. $3 million to make a prototype. Why haven't you already if you know how it works and you figured out all the physics, which this guy claims 100%. Jason claims he's figured out all the physics, all the everybody in the world is wrong except for him. He wrote 800 pages on how the physics really works. You can't spend It can't be more than 50 grand to get your secret magnets that you say you're producing. Build them into a configuration and make a perpetual motion machine. What's taking so long? Record it on YouTube and film it and you'll get your $3 million. Well, you want $3 million to do what exactly? Doesn't make any sense. This is why from a business perspective, I'm a business major. What he's saying here doesn't even make any sense. First thing you should be doing is make it a prototype so you can prove it. And then you have a business plan and then you show people in your business plan and your prototype so they can believe you and see that it's real and then you take it to the next level. Claim is he did this before and we just need to do it again. >> $3 million end result. >> Yes. Uh John Surl said that you had better have at least 3 million in the bank to account for all of the unforeseen uh work for the payroll for the insurance the overheads any equipment that you might need. And uh it's 2 to three years full-time work once you have a team of personnel. Uh I haven't >> What? No wonder the free energy community is struggling so bad. I mean really you just you made a $3 million number just because John Sirill told you like 50 years ago, 30 years ago that $3 million is the amount of money you need to start a business. So you said, "Oh, that's the number we're going to need." I' Yeah. I'd much rather give Salvatore Paisa $3 million and see what he could do. But like S said, if you really want to make a real team, $3 million isn't enough anymore. S was saying you need like 30 million if you're trying to make a research team to do something something serious and work with plasma, not work with or at least spinning superconductors, not just make a magnetic motor. So, my main criticisms here so far, and then we're going to talk a little bit more about the physics. Well, I'm just being honest, guys. For the people that say I'm bullying here, I'm actually being pretty straightforward. Some people just need to hear this. Like, from Jason's perspective, he wants my real advice. He should give up on this. He should give up on this dream that he's incorporated from somebody else. He should do what he wants to do and he should move on from this. That's my true honest opinion of it. It seems like this is like taking over his life. And the reality is I don't think anybody should invest in this. Not because I don't think it works. I do think it works. I just don't see it. Just seems like you're just flushing money down the toilet. Because the other problem is this. Even if he did this, even if he was successful doing this, it's not going to convince anybody. They'll just say you have a you have it plugged in. You have a secret uh battery underneath the table. So you spend what, three years on this and you say, "Oh, we've we've reproduced the effect." And then people go, "Oh, we tried to reproduce it and we couldn't do it." We've already seen this story play out time and time again. We're past just building something and then proving it to the world. That's a dream. That's not how it works in the real world. In the real world, Space Force invests in Sny White and then Sunonny White gets to be the billionaire. doing all the work myself for about 13 years in the lab by hand down to the milligram and micron tolerance making these magnets from scratch and melting these metals even rare earth lanthnites. This is a real business. If you can make metamaterial magnets with unique imprinted magnetic fields on them, that's a business. That's what this guy should be doing. That's what his skill is. If he's figured out that you can make these certain magnets and this can help build machines that produce novel magnetic fields that can probably be used in infusion reactors. Hey, if you want to make a billion dollars, that's probably what he should be doing. Do magnets. Didn't Trump say that like a million times? Do magnets. Stop trying to live this other guy's dream. Live your dream and build magnets, bro. Uh I don't know of anyone else in the world who melts 30 to 40 lb batches of raw neodymium or uh uh straight rare earth lanthnites. People use neodymium powder in magnets in trace amounts to dope a magnet to make it stronger. But we use those elements raw as the core of the device. So there's a lot of different machining involved. Uh and it requires a team just like it did in his electric plant when he first developed the technology. So that's why if you can if you did it before, why can't you do it again? We can but with an adequate infrastructure and support. >> Let's move on. >> Hear me? >> It's a misnomer. Uh this operates abiding by the laws of thermodynamics uh as an open system. So overity is specific to a closed system putting out more than what goes in. >> Okay. Okay. Here we go. This is my understanding limited of it. So I was hoping you could you could explain it. But it involves simplistically it involves magnets, high powered magnets that are that are perpetually spinning and that No. >> Okay. He's going to try to explain the physics. Here we go. >> So I've already got it wrong. So So there are uh No, we don't use the word perpetual. We don't like uh over unity. That's a misnomer. Uh this operate >> Wait, we don't like the term overunity. >> This is where I'm like, what are you talking about? Overunity was specifically created so that we don't have to come up with the idea of something from nothing. Overunity says we changed the boundaries on our system. Now we have an open system. Now we can achieve more output than input. How can you think that John serial's device works and produces free energy but not believe over unity is real? Just makes no sense to me. Here we go. Let's let's listen. It's abiding by the laws of thermodynamics uh as an open system. So over unity is specific to a closed system putting out more than what goes in. This claims to absorb the radiation from around it in its chaotic and turbulent form. So-called useless static >> zero point energy. You're pulling energy out of the ether, but it's >> you can you can look at it from that way. Yes. And a lot of people use the >> what what you can look at it from that way. Yes. It's just pulling the energy from what? from all around, from where? From what are you talking about? From the air, from the water. How can how can you say there's no zero point energy? There's no over unity and then be like, well, you can think about it from like pulling it from the zero point energy from the useless static. What is what is useless static in this context? It's not, and I'm trying to be charitable here. A lot of if I was an academic physicist, they would be destroying this right now. They would be saying, "This guy's doing word salad and pseudocience." I'm not even doing that. I'm I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because he does, I think, understand the ideas, but I think he's just decided that he's got to look at it through a completely different lens, a zero point energy or ether. I'm not particular to those uh phrases or that model, but it's the energy that's all around us that we take for granted as temperature. And that is mainly in the infrared and the thermal range around Earth. There's less available in the depths of space, so you have to scale up the mass of the unit in order to convert more. But you're not. >> So it's just a heat converter. It's a what is it? Thermmo electric converter. Is that what he's saying? Is he just converting heat into electricity? I think that's already a thing, chat. Let me just check. Is there a machine that converts heat into electricity? Just googling it, chat. I'm a look, I'm a healthcare IT consultant, chat. I can't be expected to know all this stuff. Yes, the device is called a thermmo electric generator. So he thinks that the surl device is just a thermmoelectric generator. This I can't tell. He's kind of giving us two different claims here. He's saying it's a thermmoelectric generator, but then he's also saying no, it's tapping the zero point energy. But he's saying it won't work in outer space because there's not enough heat in outer space either. But this is interesting because even if you remove all the heat and you remove all the light, all the energy, there's still zero point energy in empty space. So is he saying that this can run off of that? So, I'm actually okay with debating Jason now. Now that I understand his viewpoints and I understand where to attack his viewpoints where the inconsistency exists because if he's saying this works in the void of empty space, then it does run off of zero point energy and that's not just running off heat because that's his zero point energy is the absence of heat and the absence of light. >> Converting energy to mass. You're converting energy from an unusable chaotic random state to a usable coherent current. It's like the difference between humidity and a jetream that cuts through marble and stuff like that. So there funny is I think I agree with everything he's actually saying about how it works, but I just completely disagree with his conceptual viewpoint of how it works and it seems internally inconsistent. pressure in the electric field and the magnetic field. The magnets, everybody knows magnets, north and south, right? You saturate a metal and you get a magnet. That's all the world knows. High capacitive discharge, that's it. These aren't highowered magnets, but rather they are uniquely magnetized to imprint. Yeah, I guess we're just going to randomly talk the Lazar thing, too. That's a good good comparison. Like Bob Lazar, we think Bob Lazar was legit. He's just too many points that he's correct on. But then Bob Lazar doesn't understand zero point energy at all, right? Like at all. doesn't even understand anything about it. And this is what you realize is that part of the reason we haven't been able to get this all out is that everybody holds a different piece. But then they're they're adamantly wrong about other aspects which makes it easy to confuse people. It makes it easy to discredit them. Like you imagine Jason's right about the free energy. He's right about the surl device. But because he's presented in this counterculture, all the physics is wrong except for me kind of way, he's not going to get the credibility from people. And and he's not the only one. A lot of people have this kind of issue. An electric signature like a sine wave into the magnetic field superimposed. So there's multiple magnetic fields, not just one. And they are at angles at each other at all times. So when in rotation, it produces a signal like the cylinder of a music box. The cylinder of a music box has stuff programmed on it, right? >> What's crazy is go back to the beginning of this live stream where I reviewed the Iranian fusion reactor. It sounds just like what he's saying. Sounds just like what he's saying. It doesn't mean anything unless it's in rotation in relation to something else that's messing with that music box. In this case, it's the coils that are around the periphery of the unit. So, you have the circular unit. There are three rings. What you see here is the first stage in the innermost stage. Neodymium pure element 60 in the center that is the reservoir. >> Yeah. So we understand this part. Let's go to the physics. I want I want to listen to this part. Um well cool. So I guess so modern physics and just mainstream physics will look at this and and say this doesn't work and you're not going to be able to power a light bulb or whatever I guess. Right. I mean because if they did is that fair to say that no the claim if if it was claimed to be a closed system just magnets or batteries? No. That's not how things work. It requires an external power source like the sun or the matter and radiation of earth in order to power the device. >> So my question is if I had a um physicist here >> okay it requires another energy source then who cares then it's just a normal motor dude. If it can't do over unity and it requires another energy source and it's not breaking the laws of physics then it's just a regular motor. Anybody can make a motor that puts energy in and gets a turn out. That's not special. This is why his arguments don't make any sense. You can't just say, "I'm opening the system up." You also need another energy source. So, first thing is, yes, you're opening your system up. This allows you in theory to get around the second law of thermodynamics. Your system can't be perfectly efficient. Can never be 100% efficient. How do we get around that? we get another energy source. Same thing as the ground state of the hydrogen atom. Hydrogen atom is spinning around all the time. The electrons spinning around all the time. It's radiating energy out, but it's also getting energy from the zero point energy. It's got another input. Another input. Thank you, Mark. Now, here's the problem. You can't just say that other input is uh oh, it's magic fairy dust. It needs to be something specific. Can't just be like, oh, it's heat. Okay, now it's a thermmoelectric generator. The only way this can be something novel and new is if it's tapping zero point energy, a new energy source, one that's not accounted for already by classical physics. That's what needs to happen here. That's why you can't just say, "No, it's not tapping zero point energy. It's just tapping heat." Because now it's just a thermmoelectric generator. And if you say it's not doing over unity, then it's not doing anything special. It does need to be doing over unity. If you're saying the system is open and now I'm able to produce this over unity effect, that's over unity. Just because you open the system up does not make it over unity anymore. And it's important to use these terms because they mean specific things. You say, "I don't like these terms." Why not? because they're specific and they mean specific things. This is why we use established physics so that everybody can communicate using a common set of vernacular. Otherwise, it just makes everything much more complicated for no reason. >> Sitting next. Do you have a physics degree? >> No, I do not. >> Okay. If if I had like a physicist sitting here next to you and we we were describing this technology to uh give me the most annoying public figure physicist face. There you go. No, he's great. Actually, I like him. The other guy >> other people are >> Muaku is his example of a normie physicist. I feel like do you guys ever have that friend when you were younger that just it felt like he was just counterculture? like he just said things just to be edgy. I feel like that's this guy. He's just like he just wants to do the exact opposite of what everybody else is doing just to be different. It doesn't really have to do with being writer than just to be different. Like hates Mitukaku. How is your first example not Neil Degrasse Tyson when that comes up? Everybody's first thought when say who's your normie physicist Neil Degrasse Tyson. Mitchukaku is like actually the most chill of all the academic physicists. the most chill. You're going after him, dude. Come on. >> Claiming that. John Surl never claimed that. Fernando Morris never claimed that. I never claimed that. So once you ask the right questions and are given the better explanations. >> Thank you. Contrarian. That's the word I was looking for. I'm struggling tonight. Contrarian. You friends were contrarians. Feels like he's just a contrarian. Chat, I've got a read on Jason now. He's just a giant contrarian cuz he's saying all the same stuff we're saying, but then he's No, that's not how it works. Like what? What do you mean, man? >> People are more likely to support. It's a guarantee because the leap in understanding is how does a device grab new electrons while old ones leave. And the claim there is that the neodymium or rare earth lanthnide like neodymium lanthinum samarium. The rare earth lanthnides exchange their electrons very easily. There is an extra electron in the outermost shell. If you were to look at that and believe that atomic model, a veence electron and that veence electron can be easily stripped. And what happens is it leaves a positive like >> this part doesn't even matter because no matter what he's saying here, it's not relevant. Sure. Okay, they're getting electrons. Okay, they're doing some magic and they're getting electrons. I don't have a problem with that. Nobody has any problem with exchanging electrons. That's allowed by physics. Where are these electrons coming from? Where are these electrons coming from? Are they coming from the air? They're coming from the water. This is the problem. That's the part we have an issue with. positively charged electron hole in its place. Positive and negative attract, right? Electrons are negatively charged. >> You know what's funny about this is because air breathing magneto hydrodnamics use the air as a fuel source. So you could in theory say that they are using the air to produce the plasma. Maybe that's your your source, but that's not what he's arguing here. At least that's what I'm hearing. >> Charged. So the claim is that rather than oxidation where an electron is ejected and exchanges with the environment, the electron is stripped from the core and its kinetic energy is sort of knocked through the unit like a Newton's cradle. Not that the actual particle quantum tunnels through the device. No, no. Its energy is transmitted through the electric and magnetic field through the mass of the unit at the equator like Saturn's rings. >> The water the kinetic energy is depleted and the water runs out the other end of the the dam. What happens to the water after that? >> I don't know. >> The sun evaporates it. So external energy is fed into the depleted water rises its energy levels forms clouds and pre precipitates and rains back into the reservoir to complete a cycle powered by the sun. Right? So as the electrons are propagating through or that energy is propagating through the unit their kinetic energy is stripped and depleted but then they go back into the environment to recharge into the ambient levels again from the sun. So you have this current in the cycle of electrons going in and out of the unit analogous to the medium of water. Like >> that's just a normal engine, dude. Like that's how all engines work. All engines work where there's just a closed cycle. That's it. The question is if if you're doing that and it's not over unity, it's nothing special. That's the problem here. That's why we have to be very specific about what our terms are. I'll let them go for like one more minute and then we're going to switch a hydroelectric dam. But you have the evaporation and precipitation of water. But in the regard of the electron, you have the coupling of electrons into pairs. And relativity says gravity is space-time curvature. Current optics and science says that light is a consequence of a single electron dropping energy levels and the electron emits a photon in a packet. Photons aren't particles. We'll talk about that later. Uh but my view is about gravity is that light comes from dropping energy levels. Gravity comes from dropping of energy levels of electron pairs. So light is a single electron. Gravity is electron pairs. So, so now let's see the dynamics of this. We have a device that is claimed to bring in electrons. But what happens if you start to bring in more at a faster rate that they could leave? You get a bottleneck and you get more and more pressure almost like a wiggner crystal which you have electrons in a lattice almost like a chain link fence and that is normally reserved for a gas. >> Maybe this is true maybe saying that can happen in condensed matter. >> I want to Okay, I don't really care about this particular explanation. What I hear is explanation about spacetime. Let me see if I can find some part where he talks about spacetime because he says spacetime isn't real, which makes no sense to me. I want to see what he says about that. That's basically the last thing I need to see. I think I've gotten a good understanding otherwise. Um, let's see if we are that spaceime. Let's see what he says around here. How felic heating experiments uh atomic clock discrepancies every single aspect can be reinterpreted without need for spaceime or relativity at all. And that hasn't happened ever. uh until 1991 with the work of Dr. Edward Dowy and I use Dr. Dowy's work to compliment John Sorl's work and it it helps to explain and get rid of some of the esoteric nonsense that pervads the internet regarding regarding these claims. >> What do you say Dowy? Someone had to figure out who that guy is. Dowy. We'll have to look into that. >> And that's why it's difficult to get investments and support is because people are still stuck on outdated models and whack claims that that aren't real. >> Well, have you tried to talk to any like you know >> Well, the problem is you can't just say physics is wrong. You have to actually like come up with an experiment that rules out the current ideas too. This is why I say like you can't explain dark energy and dark matter under classical physics. Can't explain a double slit experiment, right? And you say, "Well, here's how you can explain it using an extra dimension using the ether." Have you have you debated anybody about this? Have you had to like talk to any like physicists about this and and like explain what they're missing and and tried to, you know, explain why their perception is is off and and what have the results of those efforts been? >> Not fruitful. >> Uh there only have been two or three conversations that I have been able to have regarding these alternative interpretations. Uh people like they shun it immediately because you say relativity is wrong. Uh brain shuts off. But some people, okay, they're they're intrigued and they want to see more. But to deny like uh we just had a solar eclipse or on some part of the world there was an eclipse. >> Okay, here we go. >> Some people say that the stars change position which they do during a solar eclipse but they say that's due to space-time curvature. Uh other scientists say that's due to refraction literal like when you say the straw and water the at the surface or the meniscus of water the straw appears to change position. It doesn't do so according to the inverse square law. It just suddenly changes position due to a different refractive index of the medium. the existence of metallic hydrogen in the corona and photosphere of the sun as Dr. Pierre Marie Robbitai has written about for decades that satisfies a requirement for refraction at that location during solar eclipses. So the explanation for gravitational lensing for that example has an alternative explanation. Now what did he just say? There's some chemical makeup of the sun that will account for the gravitational lensing. That's what he's claiming here. [sighs] I thought he was going to go with refraction. I'm going with refraction, chat. But here's the thing about refraction. Refraction requires a medium. You say, "What is refraction? If I take a cup of water and I put a straw in the water, you can see it bend. That's refraction." We can do that with outer space as well and that can explain why the light is bending refraction, but I don't know. It's just saying that there's some chemical makeup. I don't think that's going to end up holding up. I haven't looked into it yet, so I don't want to get too critical, but I don't think it's going to end up holding up. >> Um, so there's just a very different way. >> This is like this is like Candace Owens saying, "I'm allowed to think. I'm allowed to think." Yeah, you're allowed to make up fake things, but like if it doesn't have any basis in reality, it doesn't really matter, right? It's like, oh, here's another explanation. It could just be the chemical makeup of the sun. So, is that true for like every sun, every star that's out there, or no, they're just too far away. So, we just get lucky enough that we can't test this theory. [laughter] >> Looking at these things, gravity, time, energy, um, and the math to explain it all. It's it's a completely different interpretation and approach. And there's not many people who have allowed for uh the discussion on that because it's so different. >> Yeah, it's fascinating stuff. So, is that primarily where you differ? Your view is different than the traditional model or are there other places where your view differs? >> Yes. Uh I stand alone in many of my views. Uh I am an extreme heretic and one of the most radical departures from relativity and quantum theory. You'll have a flashlight and I'm pointing flashlight at you right now. >> The speed of that light coming at you is C. The speed of light. But what if I am running towards you or I'm traveling towards you on a train while uh pointing that light at you. Now the light from this particular flashlight is traveling, let's say I'm traveling towards you at 100 miles a second. So the speed of light from the flashlight is traveling 28286,282 m a second from the flashlight, but I'm traveling towards you at 100 miles a second. So now you have to add that speed on top of the speed of light. >> Does does physics agree with that? >> No. Absolutely not. >> Because they say there is a frequency shift. the the light if I'm traveling towards you or away from you at a fast enough speed, the light will change its frequency when it meets you because they say spaceime distorts that same light within the same frame of reference and it stays the same speed, but it's doesn't the frequency only change during acceleration. Could be wrong. Thought that was true. [sighs and gasps] Um, so here's my problem. He thinks that the speed of light he agrees the speed of light's not constant. I heard him argue this earlier. This is the last thing I want to bring up is that the speed of light, the explanation for why the speed of light is constant in the frames of reference is because uh it's the medium. It's the medium that's interacting. That's why it's not a property of the emitter, it's a property of the medium, the speed of light. And yes, the speed of light can appear to change. We know that because we see it when we shoot light through water. We see the speed of light change. We can slow the speed of light down. But what we're really doing is we're changing the medium. We're changing the refractive index of the medium to change the speed of light. Now the only question is can you change the refractive index of spaceime itself? So actually the trick about the speed of light that I think Jason is confused about is that it's an illusionary effect. So if we take the example of the plane, the best example is MH370. If we want to understand the speed of light and changing the speed of light, we think about MH370 being surrounded by the orbs and then suddenly it disappears and presumably it appears somewhere else in a far away location instantly. That plane has traveled faster than the speed of light. The light that was around that plane and in that plane traveled faster than the speed of light, but only from our perspective on the outside. Two different people had two completely different perspectives of the same event. The people inside the plane, they don't measure the speed of light going faster than the speed of light. They don't measure themselves accelerating at the speed of light from their perspective inside the plane. The speed of light never goes faster than the speed of light. Always stays the same. They simply appear somewhere else. It's from the perspective of us watching the plane in the drone with the drone camera. We see the speed of light. We see them go faster than the speed of light. This trick, this duality seems to be what Jason is saying doesn't exist. Jason seems to be arguing there is no time dilation. Now, I could be wrong. Maybe I'm misinterpreting his interpret his explanation here. But we know that's real. We know what I just described is real because we've seen it in two military videos. Going to be hard to push me off that frequency shifts. This other interpretation says, "No, the frequency shifts because the speed of light changes, but from a new frame of reference. So this speed comes in faster but your own electrons absorb it and reeit a brand new light which is traveling at velocity of C again to you and you can only measure that ree emitted light. It might be a frequency shifted light and you go to measure the velocity it's the same. So that's the illusion of reemission is that there's all these different speeds of light depending on if things are moving towards or away from you and its frequency will shift and it's not due to spaceime in the same frame of reference. It's due to a reeision from a constantly changing frame of reference. >> That's cool. Let's take a quick bio and let's >> Okay. So, a re-emission. I'm not sure I even understand that. He's saying the speed the light is hitting me faster than the speed of light and it's being remitted after it hits me. I don't know if I fully follow that. I'll say it's probably my own ignorance. And what I'll say is that sounds like something you should be able to test. That sounds like a kind of prediction you should be able to test, especially because one of the big things about light right now is we only measured the two-way speed of light. So if there's a gap there and you say, "Hey, speed of light's acting differently," you should be able to come up with an experiment that rules that out or proves that to be true relative to the common understanding. And so I'm actually trying to help here because I'm looking at this and I'm going, hey, if you really have a revolutionary new way of looking at physics, your only thing you should be working on, focusing on is trying to come up with an experiment that will prove you right and everybody else wrong. If you have some new way of looking at the world and all physics is wrong, then what is the missing piece that you understand that they don't understand? Make an experiment based on that and prove it. That's how all of the greats, all of the the historical scientists made their names. They came up with a crazy experiment. One guy who's tested the speed of light, put a wheel and and had the light shoot the laser beam or a light shoot through it going like a two kilometers and bounce back and then he calculated it all out. You should be able to do something like that. [sighs] Okay, so that's my last uh thoughts on the Jason thing. um would actually be open to talking to him. I am gonna go ahead and unmute him on Twitter. I've had him muted forever. Apparently, muting people is worse than blocking people, I found out. Pretty funny. So, I will go ahead and unmute him in uh interest of, you know, just being chill. What's his name? Verelli. The real verbs chat. Unmute. Okay, he's unmuted. chat. Last thing, Eric Weinstein. Weinstein. Eric Weinstein chat. Eric Weinstein on the All-In podcast with uh Dr. Friedberg. Uh, do we care about this? Let's go straight to this. >> Is that what UAPs, unidentified aerial phenomena are? because you've recently made comments that you were a deep skeptic on UAPs, but now you you have a view that maybe there's something there there. >> Oh, there's definitely something there there. >> Yeah, >> that's something there there. By the way, maybe China, it may be us. It may be a fake story, but there's definitely something there >> based on the videos and the first person accounts. >> Not the videos. I I've never cared about the videos. I've talked to too many smart, sober people. Too many similar stories. >> I agree with him here. UFO videos mean absolutely nothing. They don't even mean anything. All those videos they released mean nothing. Look at the MH370 videos. Then look at the videos they released and realize they've released nothing. They've released nothing. In fact, the better evidence is all the people that are screaming that there's a secret UFO program and that we've got secret anti-gravity and the ders, the Defense Intelligence reference documents, the ones that Bob Bigalow didn't think Trump should know about. Weird. There are definitely special access programs that are all about this. The only thing that we learn from uh that that works for to keep secrets is compartmentalization. >> And so we are so compartmentalized that almost no one can piece the story together may be that the so-called stove piping is such that we can't figure out what we know because we can't talk to each other. If you want to know what's possible, I could freak you out and it would be super cool and super frightening. But one thing is is that I'm worried about multi-temporal adversaries. >> Time travel. >> Times travel. >> Everybody says time travel because they think that time can only be onedimensional. But imagine for example that you put a giant gun on >> this [ __ ] guy. Chat, he's making me swear when I'm trying to get those Disney bucks, trying to get those brand deals. Chat, by the way, new Paul Frederick shirt. >> [clears throat] >> He starts off so strong. All he has to say is time travel. That's all he has to say. I did a whole live stream. It's like he watched my live stream from last week where I talked about time travel and the scariness and how freaked freaky it is. Didn't I just do a whole live stream about this? But then he's like, "No, we can't call it time travel. We have to call it times travel." I [ __ ] hate this guy, chat. I have to be honest, I hate this guy. I hate how he constantly comes up with this egotistical word play [ __ ] I hate how he makes up these longass stories when I just need like a 30se second explanation. It's not time travel, it's times travel because there's an extra dimension involved. It's like he's trying to make it more complicated just to be convoluted, just to be pretentious >> on a rail car. The rail car can only move in one dimension. Now somebody puts a giant gun on something like a tank and you go to the Bonavville Salt Flats. Now you can move in two dimensions. Now you put it on an A10 Warthog and you can move in three. Those are all spatial dimensions. Why do you think there's an arrow of time? It's because you believe time can only be onedimensional. I don't think time is onedimensional. And I if you meet an adversary who has access to multi-time, it's like you're trying to compete with them with an A-10 Warthog. >> I'm gonna crash out, chat. It's a Friday. I'm going to the State Fair with my dad tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it. I don't want to be crashing out. What the hell are you talking about, man? What are you talking about multi-time? What does this mean, dude? You can't just make things up on the fly in the middle of a podcast and expect everybody to be catch to be following along with you. There's multi-dimensions of time. So, it's multi-time. You mean a multiverse? Because there's already a thing called a multiverse. You don't need to make up something more convoluted for that. There's all How many directions can time have, bro? It can basically just move forward or backwards or slow down. We don't need more dimensions of time. More dimensions of time are multiveres or another dimensions. Why are you making this so complicated? This is like reverse Ashton. All I do is make things simple for the common man. All Eric does is go around and try to make things more complicated for people. You've got your only gun on a on a track except with time rather than with space. If I could sneak up behind you in time knowing your intent. I mean, this is terrifying stuff to me. It's also like I would love to have this over our adversaries, but I don't want to meet anybody who knows how to do this kind of stuff. not on a level playing field. Let me say another one. The solar system is an escape room. And Elon is focused was focused on Mars. I said that Mars is a red herring. It's a mcguffin. Tonight, he's focused on the moon. He is our only adult so far as I can tell. Uh crazy and mad as he is. And he uses that to motivate engineers because Mars is barely doable. These are the only rocks that are potentially habitable. It's not enough diversity if we have this much power in this these few spheres with which we could. >> Guys, what was even the question? What is the point that we're even bringing up here? I forgot what we even talking about. Weren't we talking about time travel or something a second ago? Like what? We're on to a new story now talking about Elon and like this is the card. Yes, this is the people. This is the high intellectuals, man, that the podcasters platform because this is what it takes. If you want to do podcasting, you just have to be able to tell stories non-stop. Don't give the person even a chance to respond. Just continually tell stories and then they'll love you and they'll eat you up. Throw a few claims in there, wild claims. Don't ever follow up on them. Don't ever explain how any of it works. Put atmospheres. So assume that you could put atmospheres on the Mars and on the moon and you could get back and forth between them with chemical rockets. You'd have three places to screw up. We need tens of thousands if not millions of places before we figure out how to civilize ourselves. We have to get out of here. It's too expensive to leave the solar system. So my claim is that in an Einsteinian world, you're never going to if Einstein is left to be in force, the speed of light is too brutal. So you go to Alpha Century, four light years away, you come back, you do it at nearly the speed of light. Everything is 8 years advanced by the time you get back home. Nobody wants to do that. And that's just the first star. My claim is is that we have been too long in Einstein's prison. General relativity really begins in 1913. It's really due to Grossman and Einstein, not just Einstein alone. I don't know why we say that. It's not really Einstein Hilbert. It's really Einstein Gman. >> I see what's going on here. Okay, I got a beat on him finally. This guy chat. This guy because now he's saying, "Oh, we can get past Einstein physics. We can maybe manipulate spaceime." He's just not saying it in those exact words. The only way you get around Einstein physics is you manipulate spaceime. Negative energy. the same thing that we've been talking the exact thing we've been talking about. Weinstein is setting himself up here to be the guy that gets it all right. To be the guy that Oh, I was saying this. I told you the government had anti-gravity crafts. I called it the obsverse and I called it multi-time and I called it what? Geometric unity. He's going to say, "Look guys, I did all these podcasts and I said it was right." Bro, a [ __ ] you. You were one of the biggest skeptics of the whole UFO thing. You were one of the biggest skeptics until the last year when clearly somebody has spoken to you and told you that it's all real and that you should change your tune so you don't look like a [ __ ] idiot. That's what happened. That's what really happened. So don't come out here and ever claim, "Oh, now I think I've got it all figured out. Turns out Einstein physics was wrong. Turns out we can time travel. Turns out we can do gravity. Turns out there are UFOs. I was right about it all. Don't even try that, dude. Don't even try it. You are, let's say, at to be generous, let's call you an early adopter. You're not an innovator, dude. You're not an innovator. You just basically got told some inside information and you're going to be the least stupid academic, right? The other academics are going to get black eyes like crazy. you're going to at least have been one of the first people to figure out you're going to look completely stupid if you don't change your tune. >> But more or less since 1915 1917 the equations haven't moved. They're going to break because of what's happening in southern Arizona. Tit Peak has this object called Bessie the dark energy spectroscopic instrument. And I believe that it is going to show that the cosmological constant times the metric which is how we encode dark energy into the equation is going to break because it's not constant. The only reason that you have lambda times the metric, which is this term, is the product rule if you take a derivative called >> Is he seriously saying that dark energy is fake right now? I think he is chat. I think we're going full circle in this live stream and we're ending it where we began with dark energy being fake. I think that's where this is going. >> Divergence, you have to take the derivative of lambda times the metric left alone plus lambda* the derivative of the metric. D of the metric has to vanish. That term is the only possible term that can go there because of something called Lovelocks theorem. If you're within general relativity, you're trying to do this geometrically. >> Is this about UFO? >> My claim is that that's going to break. We're going to get to five sigma. If we aren't there already, I'm kept up with the news. And then we're going to realize that the dark energy, the most important generally >> makes up 60 70 80% of our universe. >> We have the wrong formula for it. >> We have no contemplation of what it is. Well, I I'm focused on saying I have a candidate formula and I think everybody who has one should come forward. We should hold a conference and say who wins. Who's who's got the best idea. >> I [ __ ] called it, chat. We're crashing out. I called it. Holy [ __ ] I called it. We Dude, he literally just said zero point energy is real. We got dark energy all wrong. We got dark energy all wrong. It's zero point energy. We should hold a conference with our different ideas. Zero point energy is the answer. By the way, I've got my own candidate idea. My geometric unity. Oh my god, chat. This is really how this is going to play out. I don't know if I want to live on this earth. CIA, just orb me away, CIA. I'm ready. My body's ready. I don't care about the Scar Joe clone. I don't care about the ScarJo clone anymore. I've given up on it. Just orb me away to Diego Garcia. I don't want to see this play out. Don't don't don't punish me. >> We can't just have Eden patting himself on the back saying, "Well, string theory is the only game in town." It's like 42 years later. Come on. This >> string theory. String theory. Why are we even talking about string theory? This is like the people that talk about Mick West. Why do you even give this debunker airtime? Stop quote tweeting him five times per day and he'll go away. You give him oxygen and he doesn't go away. This is what's happening to string theory. Nobody gives a [ __ ] about string theory. Literally, no one ever talks about it and no one cares about it. It's not solving anything in physics. You can just ignore it. You can just not talk about it and not talk about the people that are doing it. It doesn't change anything about our reality. Stop giving it air time. Stop giving it room in your head. I never think about string theory ever. >> This is preposterous. Getting back to policy. Give me some money and get rid of these people. I don't want them reviewing anything that I'm doing. Give me somebody competent to talk to. >> So, sorry. Let me just go back. The dark chat chat. Eric Weinstein wants Eric Weinstein wants someone competent to talk to like a lobe. Give them a lobe to talk to. They'll figure out the UFO thing, chat. They'll figure it out. >> Energy measurement, which we're going to end up having a very high accurate estimation, >> right? tells us that the general theory of relativity and the equations associated with it are wrong because of the relationship that we see between matter and rotation and movement and so there's something off about that and that >> we know that general relativity is not the last we know general relativity is wrong >> it is a view it is a derivative >> it is the map and not the territory it is a great great model whoever >> okay yeah whatever I've heard enough he's not even wrong is the thing it's just I can't deal with the pretentiousness and I can't deal with the fact that the difference between me and Eric Weinstein is that Eric Weinstein's more like Jason Verrelli. He needs his own explanation. He needs to figure it out all on his own. He can't use the ideas that are already out there. Hal Pudovv zero point energy. We know he knows about that. He sat in a room with Hal Pudof. He doesn't think that Hal Pudof's ideas work. Every single question in physics has an answer from zero point energy in a peer-reviewed paper by various engineers and physicists. Some that work for Loheed Martin, some that are PhDs. Like I didn't try to reinvent all physics. I didn't have to cuz once I found out it's covered up, all I had to do is find the people that already figured it out. Hell, it only took me like six months. We've known about zero point energy for years. We don't need to invent some new physics. We just need people to pay attention to the physics that's already been written that already resolves all these problems and makes free energy real. And you may say, well, how what are you doing to get this to push forward? That is what I'm doing. I'm promoting free energy microchips and a neutronic fusion because those are going to be the things that make zero point energy undeniable. You may say, Ashton, what are you doing? That's what I'm doing. I figured out what the experiments are that are going to make zero point energy undeniable. They're not experiments. They're products. free energy microchips and a neutronic fusion using high beta concepts are going to be pulling vacuum energy out of nothing. That's free energy. That's going to prove everything we've been saying. That's why we do these live streams and we keep getting vindicated by fusion advancements, by free energy microchips, by advancements in all the physics. That's why you guys watch this and that's why I love you guys too. Let's go to the the super chats. Thank you everybody in the pled chat. I think it's broken. Let's see. Maybe not. Maybe we don't have any followers in the Pled chat tonight. I love you guys in the P chat. Anyway, man, Rumble chat, you guys are popping off. SM Ashbos, nice to see you. Not Yoda, nice to see you as well. Uh, a Dutch Rumbler is in the in the chat today. I think I saw a super chat. Um, there's a super chat in here somewhere. I believe there it is. Double, thank you. double. He said, "Looking forward to your discussion with Anthony Williams." I'm looking forward to it as well. I've got to work this weekend on a lot of good questions to ask because I want a lot of introspective questions that are going to give us insights into how the intelligence community works, what their relationship is to the UFOs, aka the super advanced technology, and what are the politics, internal politics around the coverup. because it's clear to me that there are people that want this technology out on the inside and there's people on the inside that don't want the technology out and I want to hear those viewpoints. I want to hear what it's like from somebody who's on the inside and I want to have a connection to somebody's on the inside who trusts me too. So hopefully Anthony Williams doesn't get killed. We're praying for him and hopefully the CIA doesn't cancel my interview with him. But even if they do, then we'll learn something from that, too. So, thank you for that super chat, my friend. Mick Leonard says, "Loo was great tonight. Never miss a show." Mick Leonard, I appreciate you. I do want to do another shout out to all my longtime followers as well, the guys that are watching every night. I'm realizing you guys are the hardcores. And hopefully I'm giving you guys content to make you smarter and more knowledgeable and that you can take advantage of this and maybe make some money, invest wisely, uh maybe get yourself involved in a career that you enjoy, that you're fulfilled in in your life. XLX Squee says, "I told you you need the polywell in the center." Yes. So, what was one of the major things we learned tonight about fusion on felony physics? We learned that you need to have no column in the center. The column in the center is exactly where you want the fusion to be happening. You can't have a big beam in there. Get rid of the column in the center. Do the fusion in the middle just like the suns do. Use a virtual cathode with a plasma where you create a overwhelming amount of electrons where you create a negative potential well or a positive potential well. Whatever you can do. And then our last super chat, Zapperoo and Zapperas says, "Fantastic love from the Zaps chat. We even had a love connection." I don't even know. At one point, we'll have to hear how this story happened, but two zero point energy advocates, pioneers fell in love. It's a hallmark story, guaranteed, chat, and it will be a subplot in the MH370 story. It'll turn out the two people fell in love in the middle of it. There'll be like a 15minute interlude about this story when they do the story about this. Can't wait. Thank you guys. Appreciate y'all. And then Bart T Welding, Matt Bartles, the GOAT chat. And I've met Matt Bartles and this guy's legit. somebody who loves zero point energy, absolutely knows the stuff is real, and is trying to improve himself to learn as much about it as he can. Shout out to you, Matt. Anyway, thank you guys. Hope you had a great night. Uh, look out for those new interviews that are going to be coming out. And by the way, I'm sorry about the Sarah Westall thing. I don't know what the deal is. We didn't get a direct link on that. I'll try to get one for you guys this weekend. And I don't know when it's going to drop, but since I don't know when, I'll let you know. the the Mike Salah interview should be dropping I assume this week, maybe even as soon as this weekend. So, look out for that. That's going to be really good where we dig into the science, dig into um General McCasslin stuff, dig into the UFO videos and help share and spread this knowledge. The last thing I want to say tonight Oh, I think I saw another super chat. Yeah, I'm working on that interview with uh the all the guys, too. That's going to be midepptember by the way if we can get it to work. BC Warick says, "Have a drink on us. Nice to be uh nice to be be nice to dad." Thank you very much. Will do. What was the last thing I was going to say? Crap. Made me lose my train of thought. Um yeah, I don't know. Anyway, I love you guys. Oh, one more. You guys keep shooting them off. Uh Austin Summerall, thank you very much for that super chat, brother. Appreciate you guys. Anyway, it doesn't matter you guys. Uh, have a great night, guys. We'll be back on Monday with more content. Love y'all. Peace out, everybody. Later. [music] Out [music] in the fields where the skies are wide. Talking about a journey through the cosmic ride. Einstein and [music] Thorn, they set the stage for a trip through time across the space age. Wormholes connect distant points in space. Traversible paths to a far off place. 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