Catastrophic Disclosure or Nothing
Summary
Host Ashton Forbes analyzes a clip from whistleblower Jay Stratton, who claims to have uncovered a 'Legacy Program' involving the CIA, Air Force, and DOE reverse-engineering non-human craft. Forbes critiques Stratton’s narrative as inconsistent, noting that Stratton claims to reveal a massive criminal cover-up yet provides no names, documents, or specific evidence, while simultaneously receiving prime-time media exposure.
Forbes argues that Stratton, along with figures like Hal Puthoff and Eric Davis, is not a genuine whistleblower but rather a participant in a controlled disclosure strategy designed to distract the public with 'aliens' while hiding advanced technologies like free energy and teleportation.
Forbes further examines comments by physicist Avi Loeb, who questions the credibility of claims lacking evidence and points out the logical contradiction of a global race for alien technology occurring without the President's knowledge. Forbes agrees that the President must be aware of such a program due to its geopolitical impact.
He posits that the only viable path to disclosure is 'catastrophic disclosure' via undeniable military footage, specifically citing the MH370 videos as potentially real because of their technical perfection, which he believes demonstrates a high-precision military operation involving plasma orbs or fusion technology rather than a simple hoax.
Key Claims (7)
Jay Stratton claims to have uncovered a 'Legacy Program' involving the CIA, Air Force, and DOE reverse-engineering non-human craft, but provides no names, companies, or evidence.
Evidence: Jay Stratton video clip
Jay Stratton, Hal Puthoff, and Eric Davis are playing both sides, acting as gatekeepers who reveal 'aliens' to distract from suppressed technologies like free energy and teleportation.
Evidence: No source cited; speaker's own argument.
Avi Loeb argues that claims of a race for alien technology without the President's knowledge are logically inconsistent and that evidence is required for such claims to carry weight.
Evidence: Avi Loeb video clip
The President of the United States must be generally aware of a secret reverse-engineering program because it impacts all major geopolitical decisions.
Evidence: No source cited; speaker's own argument.
The MH370 videos are impossible to fake; the only reason to suspect them is that they look too perfect, and that perfection is explained by their showing a precisely executed military operation (Air Force, CIA, and probably the Department of Energy for the fusion-based orbs).
Evidence: No source cited; speaker's own argument.
Disclosure will only occur via 'catastrophic disclosure' through undeniable military videos (like MH370) showing magical technology, rather than speeches about aliens.
Evidence: No source cited; speaker's own argument.
Skinwalker Ranch is likely the center of the psyop: government PhD physicists such as Eric Davis appear weekly on a TV show about hunting ghosts, which looks like a way to get paid on the side and undercuts the credibility of their UFO claims.
Evidence: No source cited; speaker's own argument.
Video Details
- Published
- November 9, 2026
- Duration
- 15:01
- Views
- 5,463
- Claims Extracted
- 7
- Theories
- 1
- References
- 1
People Mentioned
Full transcript
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The question you should ask if you are in the UFO community, I was watching Alien Girl last night. Shout out to her. I think that's what she still goes by right now. And she is watching this Jay Stratton clip. And I'm watching it and I have some thoughts on this. So I let's play this.
I want to get your guys thoughts on this too. >> In my investigation at the Defense Intelligence Agency, when I created the DIA's program with ASAP, we uncovered a deeply hidden buried program that is called the Legacy Program. And it's made up of organizations such as CIA, the Air Force, the Department of Energy, and defense contractors. And they have been for decades retrieving and reverse engineering craft of non-human origin. And really, as I was uncovering that, I think the you know, the the warning is generates around the the the 80-year monopoly on that secret and trying to protect it. >> What?
Jay Stratton is casting himself in the role of the ones that discovered the Legacy Program? That's what he's saying right here. This is like the weirdest I didn't expect him to say this. Did nobody else picked up on this? I have been saying are these guys are are are casting themselves as the ones that that found the Legacy Program. If you guys go back to my live stream where we're watching Hal Putoff and Avi Loeb, I kept repeating this that these are the Legacy Program.
And that they're playing this role like they're the ones that found this UFO reverse engineering program. Do you know why that story doesn't add up? That story doesn't add up at all with Jay Stratton saying right there. Why is there a classified portion of this dirt? If you're trying to reveal the UFO reverse engineering program, how come your dirt your your papers classified portions to them. Shouldn't you be revealing that?
If you're trying to reveal that the CIA and the Air Force and the and the DOE are working together with the defense contractors, which I agree they are, that's what I'm revealing, then how come you're not naming any names? How come you're not naming a single name of anybody? You're not even naming a a company. Name one defense contractor. Name one individual directly responsible. How come you're not naming anybody?
How come like if you supposedly have this huge criminal cover-up that you're revealing, how come you're not trying to talk to me about it when I'm I'm proving I have absolute proof right here. I have proof in my hands in the form of two military videos recorded by the Air Force, conducted by the CIA, and probably the Orbs or Department of Energy cuz it's fusion. So this story doesn't make any sense. You're telling me you're trying to reveal this secret program, but you're not actually trying to reveal anything. And you're working in lockstep with the government, lockstep with the government.
And you're getting primetime interviews on Fox News on the on the number one Fox News show. Nothing about this is organic. You know, a random dude with 5,000 Twitter followers is getting primetime spots on national news and and he's not even saying anything special, just saying aliens are real. [laughter] No evidence. Come on, man. Something's not adding up here. But I will say this honestly makes me want to talk to these guys even more.
I'm absolutely sure I've nailed what's going on with Hal Puthoff, Eric Davis, these guys. They're playing both sides. They're not on our side, but they're also not on the side of the people that are keeping everything secret. They're somewhere in the middle. And their allegiances, yes, they're protecting national security, they don't want to go to prison, they're protecting the technology, but they're revealing the aliens, which I find laughable, personally. I find that to be comical.
I think that that's honestly in in some ways worse than the people that are just hiding everything. Like at least the people that are hiding everything, they have dignity, right? They're like, look, we have to hide it all. If we don't hide everything, then they're going to figure out the free energy and they're going to destroy the planet. I can respect that. The people that are like, okay, we got to hide the free energy, but we're going to give them aliens, to me that's even more messed up, man.
That's real messed up. That's like sick mind game that you're trying to play with people. Toying with people's emotions, mhm. Mhm. Don't like it. So anyway, for me, I'm not in any of these people's sides.
Now here's Avi Loeb. Avi Loeb responded. Avi Loeb probably hates my guts. I kind of decided just to go all in on him cuz this whole UFO thing is a complete clown show. I think you guys can pretty much figure that out. But now Avi Loeb seems to be casting himself in opposition to these woke disclosure advocates, the Jay Strattons of the world.
He's, you know, he's questioning, why are these guys, if they have evidence, how come they're not bringing this to the government? How come they're not bringing this to pursue or whatever these guys are calling themselves, UAP Learning Group? How come they're not bringing it? And that's a good point. It's a really good point. If you have this secret evidence and you know the alien bodies are where the alien bodies are, you need to bring that to Avi Loeb right away.
I mean, nothing's going to get done, but you can at least pretend, right? There doesn't seem like they're even going through the motions, which is what's alarming to me is like at least pretend to be trying to get UFO disclosure, at least pretend to bring it to Avi Loeb, but they're not even like, nah, we're not even going to bother with that. We're going to go to Skinwalker Ranch. Also, pretty convinced this Skinwalker Ranch thing is like the center of the psyop.
First of all, it's very, very, very strange that a TV show about hunting ghosts has prestigious PhD government physicists showing up on it on a weekly basis. Feels like that's their way to get paid on the side. That's my That's my take on it. I And for all of this them to also be the the UFO whistleblowers, Eric Davis showing up, like what what is going on with this Skinwalker Ranch show? Especially because if you look at the credibility of the evidence on a show like that, you're doing that for sensationalism.
That would be like if I was using the show Ghost Hunters to prove that ghosts were real. I'd be like, well, we probably shouldn't do it where we're trying to like monetize a show, you know? Sends mis- mixed signals to people. I don't know. Something's wrong. Okay, anyway.
Let's watch this clip of Avi. This guy loves the attention. For a guy that loves attention, he could really use a couple more public speaking classes though, for just being honest with each other here. >> Yeah, so without evidence, they don't carry much weight. We need to see the evidence and you know, there are some internal contradictions in the story that he tells because he says on the one hand, there is a race between the United States, Russia, and other nations, China, in trying to reverse engineer alien technology.
But at the same time, he argues that the president of the United States is being shielded from the truth. He's not aware of that. I just cannot imagine a scenario where there will be a race between nations without knowledge of the president. That makes very little sense to me. So Yeah, so without evidence, they >> So [clears throat] I kind of agree with him there, actually. I told you guys I can agree with people even when I don't like them.
There's no way that Trump doesn't know. There was a clip I was going to look for it, but like we don't even really need to bother. Trump always kind of avoids this question and he goes back to telling stories and he says, oh, well those those pilots they know they saw some crazy stuff and I trust those pilots. That's the kind of stuff people do when they're deflecting. When they can't answer the question themselves cuz they have you know NDAs. And I was kind of right.
Trump would have to know. We would say if there is this reverse engineering program secret shadow war race for this technology, the president would have to be aware generally aware. They don't need to know about every project, but they have to be generally aware that this is going on because it impacts every geopolitical decision that they're making. Right? Trump knows. And that's why he avoids this question.
And we know that there really is this legacy program. It seems insane just from a normal person perspective, put my normie hat on, it seems absolutely insane that that could be real. That there is, you know, alien technology in the hands of the CIA and the the DOE. But I think you can call these plasma orbs alien technology. It is sufficiently advanced to us even if it is human technology. It's so sufficiently advanced to where we're at now publicly that it can be, you know, straight up alien tech.
And the government has that. What we need to figure out number one is how they're keeping it secret. I mean this has been a successful wildly successful suppression campaign. Wildly successful disinformation campaign to hide this whole program. How many people are in this program? Got to be hundreds of people in in program hiding alien technology and they're hiding it successfully on a daily basis for decades.
That requires a whole system in place. This is why I find the Bob Lazar story so interesting because that's the exact kind of system that would need to be in place to A even have a program like this and B to then keep it secret. Bob Lazar would be the exact kind of leak that you would be expecting if somebody went through the initiation plan and and and washed out. So as I've said before, this is the kind of situation where it's going to be catastrophic disclosure or nothing. A lot I don't know what the DEI woke disclosure advocates think is going to happen.
At this point, knowing what I know about the technology, knowing what I know about its power, I can't ever imagine any situation where somebody's doing a speech saying that the aliens are real and the UFOs are visiting us. Anybody that does that is setting themselves up to be embarrassed in the future. You made a stupid speech about aliens being real and then we find out free energy and teleportation exists and you're going to pretend like what, you didn't know that? That's the reason why nobody's going to give a speech about aliens.
So the only way this is coming out is if we find out there's magical technology and then everybody's like, oh aliens must be real. That's the only way it's happening. And the only way that's going to happen is with the MH370 videos or with videos just like that. It needs to be military videos. It needs to be in some infrared We need that predator vision, if you know what I'm saying. And it's got to be undeniable.
The MH370 videos like the number one reason why I would even consider the MH370 videos to be fake is is too good. A lot of people make up some about this would be easy to fake. Those videos are impossible to fake. The one that you can probably fake is the Gorgon Stare because it's like six frames per second from super far away. The Litany in G4 drone video and color flare is know we can ever fake that in a million years. The only reason why I would even consider it to be fake is it it's unbelievably perfect.
When you first watch those videos, you're like, why am I watching this at all? Why is this drone flying flying under the wake of the plane just staring at it, staring at this plane? Why is it doing that? And then you watch it like zoom in like it's teeing up the shot to watch this plane and you're like, what's going to happen? What? But then you realize the reason why it's too good, the reason why it's so perfect is because that's perfectly in operation.
That's perfectly a military operation and it's being executed to precision. And we are watching them watching themselves do the operation. Which is insane to me because I didn't think the government could pull off like that. I mean, who could do cool stuff, Stux Stux in that virus, Bin Laden raid, but teleporting an airplane, that's some next level Okay, let's go. Let me see. Actually, let me check real quick see if I got any other bookmarks we need to take a look at here.
Yeah, let's [snorts] take a look at this plasma video. I got a different one coming up too, but we haven't looked at Socadic Scribe in a while. But this is going to be relevant. Dusty plasmas chat. When you look at this, you just go, there's got to be so much we can learn from this. And I think a lot of people probably knew this.
It's why people have been researching plasma physics for decades and decades and decades. But I didn't realize how analogous it was to things that are happening on the large scale and then how it might be analogous to things that are happening on the tiny scale as well. And in dusty plasmas, we're actually now watching the movement, the flow of the plasma. Much like with a magnetic field, we can't see the magnetic field, but if you take some iron filings, you can see the outline of the magnetic field.
When we add this dust into our plasma, now we can actually see kind of the flow of the plasma a little bit easier. Pretty cool, huh? Okay, you want to learn some science?