Free Energy Friday - Charles Chase Watch Party
Summary
This video is a live stream watch party hosted by Ashton Forbes, featuring an interview with Charles Chase, former leader of the Revolutionary Technologies Division at Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works. The discussion centers on advanced physics, specifically the manipulation of the quantum vacuum (Zero Point Energy) to generate propulsion and free energy. Chase explains concepts such as vacuum fluctuation propulsion using resonant tunneling diodes, the creation of coherent matter wave beams (similar to lasers but for fermions), and the use of asymmetric Casimir cavities to generate force. He argues that mainstream physics dogma, which assumes the vacuum is empty or that energy conservation strictly prohibits extracting work from it, is flawed because it ignores the physical reality of vacuum fluctuations and the A-vector potential. The host, Forbes, contextualizes these claims within a broader narrative of government suppression of free energy and teleportation technologies, referencing the MH370 disappearance as a potential demonstration of such technology. The conversation also touches on the difficulty of replicating these experiments due to academic skepticism, lack of funding, and the controlled nature of microchip fabrication.
Key Claims (5)
Charles Chase, a top Lockheed Martin engineer, confirms that vacuum fluctuations are real and can be harnessed to generate force and energy through asymmetry in quantum systems.
Evidence: Chase's presentation on resonant tunneling diodes and asymmetric Casimir cavities; his explanation of the A-vector potential as the source of electromagnetic fields.
The laws of physics, specifically conservation of energy and momentum, are not immutable but are descriptions of current observations that can be bypassed by interacting with the vacuum medium.
Evidence: Chase's statement that 'laws' are just descriptions of effects we see, and that breaking symmetry allows for force generation from the vacuum.
Advanced stealth technology (multi-spectral stealth) used by the military involves manipulating thermal signatures and light to make objects invisible across multiple spectrums, potentially explaining UAP behavior.
Evidence: Chase's mention of his work on multi-spectral stealth technology at Lockheed Martin.
The MH370 disappearance was likely a covert demonstration of teleportation or spacetime manipulation using plasma orbs, covered up by the US government.
Evidence: Host's commentary linking Chase's expertise in stealth and fusion to the MH370 footage; references to previous theories about plasma orbs.
Free energy microchips (e.g., by Garrett Moddel, Paul Tibido) exist and work by extracting energy from the vacuum, but are suppressed due to academic gatekeeping and government control.
Evidence: Discussion of Moddel's patent and experimental results; Chase's acknowledgment of the work but emphasis on measurement difficulties.
Theories Presented (4)
Video Details
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- August 22, 2026
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Video Transcript
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[music] I suppose we all thought that one way or another. Woo! Welcome free energy Friday live stream chat. I can feel the energy. I can feel the energy in the chat. Welcome Gabriel Diaz to the chat, guys. I know you want to talk about free energy, unlimited abundance. That's why you guys are here tonight, but before that chat, check out my dog. Lulu got onto the couch all by herself, chat. Her butt infection is healing. Things are going well. Lulu is she proof of life, chat. Proof of life. Okay, guys, let's get down to it. What are we talking about tonight? Well, obviously we're going to be doing a live stream live watch party of the Tim Ventura Charles Chase interview. If you do not know who Charles Chase is, Charles Chase was the former uh revol the leader of the revolutionary technologies division of the Loheed Martin skunk works. Top 0.00001% of the Loheed Martin engineers. Basically, he's in the mafia. He's in the club chat and he knows all the free energy engineers and microchips and everything. So, exciting stuff. Before we get to that, we got [snorts] a few other things that we got to address. We got some politics we got to talk about. Your favorite part of the live stream. I know you guys tell me all the time in the comments. You say Ashton, you say, "Please talk more about politics. You're so good at it. We love it. Of course I will. Of course I will. Chat, the other day I woke up. I was getting ready for work and I opened up and I saw this. I said, "Wow, this is a cool rave. Look at these women. These women at this rave and they're shooting hearts out to the DJ and they're going, "We love you, DJ. We love you." And I was like, "Wow, that's so heartwarming. And then I realized that's not what they're doing. They're actually out here supporting a triple murderer. [snorts] Um what >> Lindsay is a mental health [screaming] >> know if you'll ever have this many women in one place at one time who may all of us on a level that others don't. Um, chat, >> we're not going to make it. We're not going to make it, chat. I'm looking at this. First of all, I'm wondering, honestly, the very first thought that came into my mind when I watched all these women out here supporting a woman who strangled her children to death was, "Are these Candace Owens followers?" That was my absolute first thought was that these women are definitely the wine moms waiting to watch Candace Owens, waiting to find out the new twist in the TPUSA uh true crime documentary that Candace Owens is running. That was my first thought. My second thought was, why are they all wearing like pink? This is actually reminds me the This is actually alarming me. No joke. This is mass formation psychosis. The only time I've seen this is Black Lives Matter COVID and then recently with the weird Israel killed Tyler or Israel killed Charlie Kirk thing because these people are just basing their whole world view entirely on feelings that this woman is not responsible for the actions that she did because like the doctors in the world let her down or that like they gave her, you know, drugs that made her go crazy. No agency whatsoever in their decisions. And I look at this and I say, from the free energy perspective, how could we ever give somebody like this free energy? Somebody irrational like this is going to destroy us all. In fact, chat, you know, I love women. I am not a bigot. I believe that people can be whatever they want to be and just do whatever they want to do. But I will say the Salem witch trials did nothing wrong. I will say the Salem witch trials did nothing wrong. I will die on that hill because clearly they were ill equipped to deal with whatever this is back in the 1600s. The only thing they could do to deal with this is they had to burn people at the stake. That was the logical course of action. And I didn't it didn't make sense to me before. I'll always admit when I'm wrong. I thought the Salem witch trials were cruel and unusual. Made no sense. And now I go h maybe they do make a little sense. Maybe there was some rationality behind it. Now chat, you are going to believe this. [snorts] [clears throat] The first thing that people did when this started making the rounds [snorts] was they looked at Candace's old clips. Can you Can you imagine what I'm about to play right now? I made my thoughts clear on this the moment that she um was arrested, the moment that it made the news. Lindsay Clancy is obviously not guilty. There are a fleet of doctors who should be imprisoned for what they put her on. I regularly speak out against big pharma. Uh they get away with murder all the time and in this case they are getting away with the murder of really her three children but also completely destroyed her life. Obviously not guilty. Quote unquote. Obviously not guilty. By the way, the real amazing part of this clip that people don't know, this is from two weeks ago. So this brain rot actually could have contributed to the psychosis we are seeing right now with these women because Candace is out here just going she's obviously not guilty to her 8 million followers and everyone's going yeah it's the drugs that did it the drugs made her do it she doesn't have any agency holy crap Chad thank you for the raid woke society is my And okay, we're not going to harp on this too much, guys. But I will say this this the the black pills that we've been doing out the last couple weeks. I have to say CIA, I get you now. I didn't understand why they were hiding free energy. I said we could have free energy. We could be solving all the world's problems with free energy right now. But no, of course they can't give it to us. I mean, look at the mass formation psychosis that is regularly going on in our society now. And you know, if you want to get political, you could ask, you could even add people just choosing to change their gender to that list, too. We have so many mental problems in our society. There's no way we can exist with free energy. Sucks. We're going to have to make our own breakaway civilization and leave these people behind. That's the only path forward. Now, I could heart more on on Candace and her fake evidence and all that, but we'll leave that for Twitter. Let's focus on some fun stuff. Let's bring this up. [snorts] You know, I like to look around the internet and I like to see the pseudo celebrities and I like to engage with everybody. You guys know that about me. I'm not shy and that's why I get my troll reputation, which is it's earned. I'm a good ass troll, chat. I was born in the darkness. I was raised by it, molded by it. Most of you simply adopted the internet. I'm somebody that was there at the beginning. I know what people are like. This shocked me. This is Coral Fineman chat. Coral, where's your mom? Coral. And you'll see why that applies actually here in a second. Let's go ahead and read this. Richard Fineman, my father. First of all, never live in your in your parents' shadow. Never live in your parents' shadow. Always be your own person. And that sometimes that can be that you do the thing that your parents did, that your dad did, that your mom did. And sometimes it's that it's not. The point is that it's something that you want to do and you want to be and that you're interested in, not the things that your parents were interested in. [snorts] Anyway, my father uh divided perpetual motion machines into uh perpetual motion machines of the first kind which violated the first law of thermodynamics, the second kind which violated the second law of thermodynamics and other perpetual motion machines which somehow get their energy from other laws of physics. I didn't really know exactly where this was going. this this whole whatever this is going to be. But I could tell at the beginning here this was starting to feel a little NPCish. Now I'll explain why. When it comes to free energy, if you can get around the first law, you've gotten around all of them. First law of thermodynamics is that energy is not created or destroyed. So you can't get energy from nothing. But I'm going to go ahead and say that we can. this we can get around this law. I mean it's still true but the quantum fluctuations the zero point energy is another energy source. It's a whole another energy source. So therefore it gets around the first law because we are creating energy from something that you think is nothing the vacuum. This gets around the second law automatically. So it doesn't even make sense to be dividing free energy devices into these categories like this. It shows that whoever was dividing them into these categories doesn't even really understand the concept of zero point energy or free energy. And that's why you don't see me dividing them into arbitrary uh arbitrary categories like this that violates the certain laws of thermodynamics. And something you're going to hear Charles Chase say today is that he says the laws of physics are not some immutable thing that can't be violated. They're just what we came up with to describe the effects that we see. If there's an effect out there that's rare that requires certain conditions, then that that could be something that we just simply haven't discovered. Okay, [snorts] I'll go on. The second kind is rarer. The only example I'm familiar with is one that my dad showed me plans for. Once in a while, someone would come to him with a perpetual motion machine perspectus and ask if I was a good investment. So, the second law of thermodynamics essentially says that no closed system can be perfectly efficient. And this is why I love to ask the question, if you live by the laws of thermodynamics, then how is an atom stable? No system can be perfectly efficient. Energy can't be created or destroyed. So how is an atom stable? How in your worldview with your physics can an atom be stable? Anyway, so if no system can be perfectly efficient, then there should be no way to be uni have over unity. There should be no way to produce free energy based on the second law. One of these machines that claim to extract heat energy from the air and run a generator with it. Now, this is interesting, right? Because this is actually a free energy device that uses brownie in motion. It's extracting heat energy, right? If you're extracting heat energy, you're using brownie in motion, just like Paul Tibido's microchip. Paul Tibido made a free energy microchip that works like an endless battery that changes the equilibrium point from zero to something above zero using the uh electron drift velocity of graphine. They had built half the machine which worked as far as they could test it and were looking for gullible investors to pay for finishing it. When you start throwing charged language like that around now I'm starting to realize, okay, you really don't know what you're talking about here. By carefully going over the immensely complex plans, my father and I found a heat ex heat heat exchanger cracked my voice was supposed to take warm freon and cool air and produce hot freon and cold air. Naturally, this heat exchanger was a a as yet unbuilt portion. So [clears throat] what he's saying here is that there was some portion of this machine that was impossible that wasn't going to be able to be possible and that that was never built or something like that. Okay, whatever. Who cares? Those other perpetual motion machines get their energy from here. They're toward fake physics like cold fusion, vacuum fluctuations, or new secret physical laws that will be disclosed only on the payment of a million dollars. So now he's taking shots. Oh, Lulu just hit the camera, guys. One sec. Come on, girl. Out. Okay. Crap. One sec, guys. Okay, we're back. So, this part I find wild because vacuum fluctuations his father won the Nobel Prize for quantum electronamics QED. So his father the actually what Charles Chase I think is going to say in this interview we're going to watch in a few minutes is that the Casmir effect and the lamb shift actually don't even prove the vacuum fluctuations are real but that if you believe in quantum mechanics then you must believe in then you must have vacuum fluctuations. I think he says that. Don't quote me. We're going to find out if I'm right about that. But if true, that makes this the most ironic statement ever. Your dad won the Nobel Prize for quantum electronamics, and you're claiming that vacuum fluctuations aren't real. You can't extract energy from them. Okay. Well, then explain why the Casemir effect shows a force or explain why helium 3 doesn't freeze at 0 degrees because we're saying we've pulled all the energy out but these but work is happening. Work is occurring. Okay, now this is probably the most egregious part here. Back in 1970, my father went to public demonstration uh went to a public demonstration of one of those other perpetual motion machines. So, he's saying he went to one that was extracting vacuum fluctuations. He discovered an electric cord was running out of the back of the machine plugged into the wall. When he unplugged the machine and pointed out to the inventor that the perpetual motion machine had been plugged in, wasn't really perpetual, the inventor pushed a button on a control panel and the machine exploded. Several spectators were severely injured. I believe one man lost an arm. The inventor sued my father on the grounds that he had caused the explosion. My father suspected that the explosion was deliberate. The trial ended up with my father not having to pay. Now, you know what I found interesting about this? Go back to the Tom Voluone interview. He mentioned the HAP engine. He didn't say HAP. He said PAP. Tom Voluone mentioned this to me. This was the PAP energy device. Somebody died from this. And do you know whose fault it was? Richard Fineman's. This story, this representation right here is all fake. It's all wrong and it's all fake. His father caused that. Richard Fineman, the guy that we idolized, caused the guy's death. He pulled a cord out of a machine that was in progress and it exploded and killed a man. That's the facts of the case. And Caltech did settle. They lost. They settled with the guy and they paid Pap. So if he caused his own explosion, if there was even any evidence of that, they wouldn't have settled with him. So that's the true story of it. When you actually go, you can go fact check it right now if you want. Now, maybe I'm wrong because, you know, these are stories where we don't really have a lot of like actual physical evidence in front of us and I haven't diged deep into it, but look, I get I I get trying to defend your father and you were a kid and you remember things differently or whatever, but like whatever this is is cringe. It's wrong. It shows that he doesn't understand physics at all. And then when you make up a fake story about where your dad was actually liable for a man's death and you try to blame it on the other guy and you try to use that as evidence for why free energy devices are fake. That's just really messed up, man. That's not what that's not how your father would have acted. Your father was an intelligent man that taught himself that understood that the the standard perception and view that the public has is not necessarily how things really work. And he would have never made a post like this. Not in a million years. One more comment I want to point out on the Lindsy Clansancy thing. Yeah. One more thing to say about the the coral free uh fineman thing. These women are saying that the husband's guilty because he's a Gemini. They're like, "You can't trust a Gemini, dude. She's a Leo. She would never do this. She's a lion. She's the Gemini. The Gemini did." She lured the husband out of the house and then took her time with three children. Anyway, it's dark stuff, man. We live in dark times. So let's talk about free energy then. Let's not just troll people and put people down. Let's talk about actual free energy. How do we prove free energy? How do we show free energy is possible? You guys know the answer. The ground state of the hydrogen atom. So that question that I just posed on Twitter which was okay if free energy is not possible if it's not true then let's take it down to the smallest scale the smallest macroscopic scale the atom we can see atoms. So if we take it down to the smallest possible scale how do atoms work? Are atoms little perpetual motion machines or are atoms is something else going on? How are atoms stable? Because atoms have an electron cloud around them. If you believe, let's start with our view, the right view, the zero point energy view. The zero point energy view would say that the ground state of the hydrogen atom Hal Pudof's 1987 paper the goat Hal Pudof would say that every atom is sitting in a bath of energy 0 point energy space energy space juice and it's radiating energy and it's also absorbing energy so that it stays in a perfect equilibrium state. This equilibrium state we call the ground state. We currently think it's the lowest possible energy state, but in theory that could be lower if we're right. So this is huge. This perspective is huge because it answers the question. It then says spin, quantum spin is physical. It can now actually be real spin. It doesn't have to be makebelieve spin anymore. We can now say that yes, on the small scales, things work the same on as on the big scales. Why is this important? scale and variance. What is it that I preach that we preach that the things that are very big can be made very small and the things that are very small can be made very big. Scale invariance. So let's read through some of the criticisms and some of the arguments that people make on Twitter. I thought some people made some good ones that were out there. Let me go through some of the replies. Tom Monttok. Shout out to Tom Montalk, guys. I've been trying to get him on the stream again on the the show again. He says, "In case a skeptic invokes quantum mechanics, saying that electrons are in orbitals that are stationary states, meaning the expectation value of their posetron doesn't change with time, hence they're not really moving, therefore not radiating." Then just bring up that electrons truly circulate perpetually in a superconducting ring. Thank you Tom Montto. Now you see chat this is why we posed the questions on Twitter because there was actually good back and forth in the replies here that you guys should read over so that you can understand the classical view and why it makes no sense. And Tom Monttok says they're going to come and they're going to say that the electron is not even really moving that it's just like in some quantum frozen state and that because it's in a quantum frozen state it's not radiate doesn't need to radiate any energy and therefore we don't have to worry about where it's getting its energy from. Okay. Well number one if that's the case that's a perpetual motion machine. You're basically saying, "Okay, it's a perpetual motion machine and it's just going forever and it's in a perfect state, never to be disturbed." Which, you know, that's possible. That's a viewpoint that you can have. But that viewpoint, the perception that the atom is in this perpetual motion that is perfectly stable, that only works if you're in an empty vacuum, a voidless vacuum. Because otherwise, you're going to be bumping into things all the time. You're going to be having interactions all the time. and your little perfect stability is not going to be very stable anymore. So this perception of this perfect quantum stability state falls apart if the if the vacuum is a roying ocean of energy. And spoiler alert, we know that it is. So let's see what people say here. And then here's a good followup. These people say that, "Okay, sure, it's a perpetual motion machine." This is actually a fun conversation because people come back and they say, "Okay, fine. It's a perpetual motion machine and it's spinning around perfectly and it never stops, but you can't extract work off of it. It's not a free It's not a free energy device because you can't pull energy out of it. You can't squeeze the electron orbital and get energy out of it. That's what they're saying. First of all, we're saying yes, you can. First of all, we're saying yes, you can. That's actually exactly what Randall Mills is saying. Randall Mills of Brilliant Light Power is saying there are fractionalized quantum states that are stable states where you can shrink the electron orbital. That's what Randall Mills is saying and he actually claims to have the spectrometry and calimemetry data that supports it. So I'm just going to say that I'm not saying that but people are saying that. Second of all, hey alien girl, nice to see you. As Tom Mtok says, that's a separate argument. The first argument that we're making is that what is your perception of an atom? You think it's this frozen thing that's just perfectly stable. Anybody touches it, it's going to crack, but it's fine because it's in an empty void. And I'm saying, no. An atom is a spinning, swirling sea of energy. And it's actually spinning just like on the large scales. And it's it's radiating energy and it's absorbing energy from the zero point energy background. The perpetual motion argument, that's a separate one. Can we pull energy from it? Can we get net excess energy? Well, if I were you all, I would not bank on no. Why would I not bank on no? Because we're about to do it with fusion. The question is simply, where do you draw the boundaries on your system? And what you're going to find is that the moment you include 0 point energy into the equations, your system is now an open system that includes an infinite reservoir, potentially infinite reservoir of energy. That's why free energy is real. That's why it's not a myth. Is it easy to pull off? No. Clearly, no. or many people would have done it already publicly and not be killed. But some have pulled it off. I guarantee you some have pulled it off. [clears throat] Let's see any other arguments in here. the ether. People seem to forget, especially the ones that are condescending about free energy not being possible, that essentially all the fathers of electromagnetism and honestly even Einstein himself for a while depending on your depending on the time frame also believed in a medium. In fact, I'll pull this up. This is a quote. I'll just read it actually. Too much work. A quote from Nicola Tesla. I saw this on Ken Wheeler's Substack. He makes really good arguments about light. That light is actually a disturbance in the medium. We've been looking at light all wrong this whole time. We've been thinking of it as particles, but it's actually just waves, disturbances in the medium. Tesla said, think about this. Why can't I? There we go. Light propagates with the same velocity irrespective of the source. Such constancy can only be explained by that it is solely dependent upon the properties of the medium especially its density and elasticity. Tesla is saying the reason why the speed of light is the same everywhere is because it's a property of the medium not a property of the source. We keep thinking that light is a property of the source but it's a property of the medium. That's the answer. How simple. Now I think I want to pivot to the conditioned electromagnetic beam before we go into our final before we go into the live stream on here. Just to see is there any other questions though and the superc conductivity analogy is so good because in superconductivity the electrons are moving around. So if they try to say that there's this frozen quantum state, well you say then how come I see it on the macroscopic level in superconductivity and you admit the electrons are moving in superc conductivity. Right? So there's no way they can argue against that there is a perpetual motion an aspect of perpetual motion to atoms to electromagnetism because we see it now. Can you pull infinite energy out of it? I'm going to argue yes. And Charles Chase is going to argue yes. Why? Because the vacuum fluctuations exist. That's a source of energy. And all we have to do is make a waterfall, an asymmetry. That just means that it's not the same on both sides. An asymmetry. And if we can make an asymmetry at the quantum level, we can make an infinite battery. Now, last thought on the Coral Fineman. Coral, why'd you blow up the machine, Coral? Maybe Coral blew up the machine, chat. Maybe he just pinned it on his father. One of the reasons why the device could have exploded, I don't know all the details of the PAP device and the situation and what happened, but one of the ways the device could have exploded is if you cut off the connection to the capacitor that was offloading the energy. Do you guys understand? If you are producing free energy, what you're doing is you're pulling energy out of the quantum vacuum. In essence, you are creating energy, but not really. You're just pulling it out of the vacuum. That energy has to go somewhere. So, this is why these devices are connected to batteries. It's not because they need to run off the battery. It's because they need to drain the excess energy that they're pulling. If you're not using it, it's got to go somewhere. So, you either use it right now or you put it to the capacitor. That's why they're connected to batteries. They have to be. Unless you have perfectly figured out the amount of input energy versus output energy, you need to have it connected to some kind of capacitor to offload the excess energy. This is why I say, and you guys can go back to when I was talking about the Ethertech device, magnetic motor. This is why you have to figure out, are you connecting it to the grid so that you can offput the excess energy or how are you going to offput that excess energy? Otherwise, you're going to have an explosion on your hands. chat. I worry about humans. I really do. Now, who wants to know how to make a gravity beam? Chat, if I don't get at least five thumbs up in the chat emojis, you're not I'm not teaching you how to make gravity beams. I was going to ask for $100, but I don't even want your money. I don't even want your money, chat. I just want your praise. I just want your accolades. I just want you to tell me you love me, chat. Tell me it's all worthwhile. Thank you. Thank you for the five thumbs up. Appreciate it, guys. I'm I'm about right now. I'm ready. This is where I'm at right now with society. I'm so blackfilled. I'm ready to go take some ice out of the freezer and go make a video, a Tik Tok video of myself throwing it in the tub to let off all my violent urges. Chat, Dark Ashton wants to come out. Thank you guys. Thank you for the support and the love. I know I'm stunning and brave. I know, chat. I'll get that Tik Tok video out there for you guys. You guys can all emoji on it and tell me how stunning and brave I am. Thank you. Okay, I will give you the secrets now to conditioned electromagnetic fields. It's actually super super simple. The answer is simply an undulator. Remember that undulator? that counterpropagating positive and negative magnetic fields. I'm just saying positive negative. You get the idea. The polarity that's the secret. Why? Because you can twist the phase of the electromagnetic beam. The secret is very similar to what Tom Bearden was saying when it comes to scalar physics. He's saying electromagnetic beams are just waves. Well, what if we like cancel two waves out? Is there still nothing there? That was close. But you take it a step further and you say, "What if we twist twist the phase of our electromagnetic beam?" Well, how do you do that? How do you twist the phase of the electromagnetic beam? Well, when it comes to fusion and a particle accelerator, a fusion reactor, you force the particles down the path you want them to go. And that's what you use the elect the undulator for. The undulator forces them into a sinocidal path that you want them to follow. That ion pumpy thing for Ashton, that was the general chat. that was the general or that was somebody that's chilling with the general right now because I mean it's too on the nose. So where's my post? Let me just read my post because I don't want to I don't want to respell it all out. Oh yeah, here we go. Secret to anti-gravity. >> [snorts] >> The secret to anti-gravity is scalar longitudinal waves as discovered by Amper and ignored as a mathematical convenience. All true. All true. This is the craziest crap. Aier figured this out like what 150 years ago or something. long time ago and we've just been ignoring it because we're like nah it's just a mathemat a vector potential is just a mathematical convenience. It doesn't do anything. Is there a lot of stuff in physics that doesn't do anything? The A vector potential, the A vector potential twists spacetime the same way magnetic fields twist charged particles. So therefore, a conditioned electromagnetic beam can create a gravitational effect by structuring the phase gradient so that it mimics the frame dragging of a rotating mass. And so I asked AI like what what kind of shape would you use to mimic the frame dragon of rotating mass? An undulator or a helix can twist the phase forcing the electrons onto that sinocidal path so that it carries the coherent a vector potential that you need. that you want. Notice the helix shape comes into play here. Now, do you understand? Do you understand why all these gravity beam devices in free energy devices are using helix shapes counterpropagating spin and undulators because they're all if they don't know they're creating conditioned electromagnetic beams. They found the way to manipulate spacetime. Maybe some of them know it, maybe some of them don't, but they're coupling electromagnetism to gravity. That's what that means. Change the phase of the beam, turn the electromagnetic beam into a gravity beam, and you've coupled electromagnetism to gravity. And once you've done that, now it does go simply back to Tom Mtok's question. It's not a question of can a perpetual motion machine exist. We know we can make a machine that moves forever. The question is can we get over unity out of it? Can we get over unity out of it? Can we get an infinite energy machine that can do work and run forever on top of that? Not a simple thing to do. And so people would say here's a good question. I get the question about a thousand times a day. Why have you not built something? First thing I tell you is I would love to build something simple and cheap that could convince everybody, but that's not in the cards. A the simple and cheap stuff, relatively simple, relatively cheap magnetic motor type stuff doesn't convince anybody. There's about a hundred videos of magnetic motors and unfortunately about 95% of them are fake, but the 5% of them that are real, you're not going to convince anybody. You could do a 50-st state tour and you'll convince no one. There is no demonstration you can do to convince Coral Fineman that free energy is real. Listen to what he said in that post. There's no demonstration you could ever possibly do. And if you want real free, undeniable free energy that's applicable and commercial, commercial, like something you can sell to people in today's day and age, it should be obvious what it is. A free energy microchip that goes in your phone. That's the commercial product. A free energy microchip that goes in your phone and your phone runs forever. It's undeniable. You don't need to demonstrate anything to anybody. The moment that I have a a phone that doesn't have to be charged anymore, I don't even have to ask the question on how. I don't give a Now I can jerk off on the internet 24/7 and never have to plug in my phone anymore. Every single Redditor is going to love that. That's the answer forward. And the downside to that, if you haven't been paying attention, is that getting microchips built is a pretty limited thing. Number one, extremely expensive. Hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions. Number two, there's not a lot of facilities that can do it. The reason why Gary Stevenson can do it is because he's got all the connections. Cuz he's probably a black project engineer himself. You think you're just going to roll up and get some microchips made? Good luck. Are you good with fabrication labs? You have the connections? No. So, the reason why I don't build anything is because I'm doing exactly what I was put on this earth for. I'm doing I'm in my comfort zone right here, chat. I'm talking to my people. I'm explaining free energy. I'm getting information out to hundreds if not thousands of people much faster and more efficiently than if I built anything. That's what I realized like two years ago. And I said, why am I trying to start a company doing free energy magnetic motors? Nah, waste of time. Let's get to the main event. What you all have been waiting for. Let me just see if I missed anything else. One last thing that's on my mind. Where is it? Uh crap. Um what's his name, guys? Uh Tom Delange. Tom Delange spoke up. UAP James. That was close. I can't believe this chat. I'd love I thought this was from years ago. I thought there's no way somebody got Tom Delange talking answering a UFO question. Guy's like been in hiding. He's hanging out at ComicCon. This is right now he's at Comic Con. >> I'd love to get your opinion on the declassified UAP files we've gotten in the last few years just cuz I think you're an interesting person to talk about that. >> Um it's a big deal. Uh I'm an active consultant on all of that stuff right now with the US government and um there's a lot more coming. This is just beginning. >> I'd love to get your opinion on the declassified UAP files we've gotten in the last few years, just cuz I think you're um bro, the general is missing. The general that got you connected to the whole UFO topic vanished and no one knows where he is and there's no footage of him even leaving his house. And you're at Comic-Con. You're like, "I'm a consultant right now on the UFO files that are being released." Chat, [clears throat] where is the Lindsy? Where's the Lindsy Clansancy fan club? Sign me up. You know what? I don't even I don't even want to fight this psychosis at this point. Yep. You guys aliens are coming. Aliens are coming. Government's going to tell us anytime now. Tom Don is our savior. Don't Don't ask any questions. Generals just disappear. I'm sure he just uh went on a went on a hike and said, "You know what? I don't want to I don't want to be on this earth anymore." Didn't want to tell his wife. Makes perfect sense. Oh my goodness. Okay, Charles Chase, please rescue me, sir. Please rescue me from this. Also, last thought before we go to this is maybe Travis Taylor is a good liar. Maybe Travis Taylor is a good liar. Maybe he really is on the inside. I can't get a beat on Travis Taylor. I think he It's just impossible for him not to know. It's impossible for him not to know. And he is a smart enough guy that he could be a good liar. He could be a smart enough guy that he could be a good liar. Beware of the guy at the poker table, guys, that comes in and looks like he doesn't know what he's doing. Beware of that guy the most. My favorite character to play when I would go to the poker table would be the guy like the guy that's like, "Oh, it's my first time at the table. How's it going everybody?" You know, that's careful careful chat. Time for the goat. Here we go. Charles Chase, the absolute goat. I ask every day, why is this not my father? No disrespect to my dad. I like my dad. Love him even. But I would basically do a fight club, hang outside Charles's doorstep, just sleep on the sleeping bag just until he opens the door and says, "You've waited long enough, young young Padawan, young four orbs. come in and be my disciple. Basically, I want to know everything this guy's ever known. Uh, I want to know all the secrets. And I'm, you know, just between us. This is just between us guys. I'm 100% convinced this dude's on some alien He's into some alien type as the kids would say. Um, no doubt in my mind. No doubt in my mind whatsoever. Okay. And we're going to get into it. Here we go. Yeah, thanks. Thanks a lot, Tim. Yeah, it's great >> this was a pleasure to talk with you. You are one of the few people who is out there doing truly cutting edge work that blurs the boundaries between breakthrough science and breakthrough engineering. Right? A lot of folks are kind of >> chat. I wish I could just touch him right here. You know, just be close to him. Just feel his presence. Okay. Too weird. Too weird. >> You know, [snorts] firmly planted in one area or the other, but like I love the work that you're doing because you are you're you're crossing those lines. You're saying, "Okay, here is the latest science and we're going to put this into a workable form." and that's really an extension of your career work at Skunk Works. So, >> yeah, thanks. So, yeah, I've always had, you know, a desire or been driven to um work at the edge, but at the edge that had a scientific basis and grounding and then turn that into >> Bro, by the way, chat, you may say you're being weird as hell. Um, he's a secret for Orbsy, chat. Charles Chase is a secret for Orbsy. No one can can convince me otherwise. He tried to hide it in this interview, but it came out. And I am so excited right now. So excited. We just want to learn from you, sir. We just want to learn the secrets. We want to learn the ways. Let us into the club. We will we will smite all the Lindsy Ch Lindsey Chansley supporters that you require us to smite. Just tell us what we have to do. We're ready to get our hands dirty. >> Do real engineering and do the work you need to um see if something is real or not, >> you know. So, I have a you know, I keep a very open mind about things. And um but you know, also, >> by the way, real talk, I will fight Professor Dave in one of those boxing matches they do on the streaming things. This is true. 100% true. You can hold me to this. I will literally fight him, chat. Just for the honor of Charles Chase and anybody else who dares disrespect this man, also fight them, too. Fight any and all of them in those brand. What is it? Brand risk. I'm a brand risk chat. That's my name. Uh, you know, want to make sure it's proven and real at the same time. And so, you know, like my group at the skunk works, we were happy if uh 10% of what we were working on came to fruition. You know, that that would that was success. >> Okay. Okay. Yeah. So, not everything that gets attempted materializes as an end product, but that like you said, that 10% that does, that's the breakthrough. That's transformative, >> right? Something that can, you know, really help people and change the world. So even when I was at the skunk works which of course is a defense company I was always trying to do things that could also help humanity in addition to you know supporting the locked but you know >> we have to listen to this we have to we have to get into his mind chat we have to understand what makes Charles Chase tick and this particular case we're learning that he was in the defense contract but he had he had a bleeding heart bleeding heart lib on the inside chat and he always wanted to do good things, >> things that could help people and like we've taken on at the Unlab, you know, the people, the planet, and the biome. Um, you know, really does he make weapons of death that destroy and kill people? Yes. But he also saves. He kills and he saves, chat, balance. Balance in all things. >> Trying to help things and and do good things. >> What What is it that you are currently engaged in? I have a big list of projects, some of those, you know, past, present, and historical. And again, I have a massive slide deck, and I'm really excited to be able to put that up for the audience, but I pretty much guarantee that he helped make that uh discombobulator thing that we like made those people bleed out of their eyes and stuff. By the way, that seems like a Charles Chase kind of thing. >> What is it that you are working on right now and what are you most excited about going into the second half of this year? Yeah. So there there's a few things, you know, I know we're going to discuss the vacuum fluctuation propulsion work that I've been working for quite a while. Um, you know, still very excited about that, of course. And, you know, we're making some good progress in doing the experiments. You know, also the idea that, um, had with my colleague Mo Arman, um, about a coherent matter beam and how to put matter into coherence, kind of like you do with a laser, uh, is very exciting. I've always been drawn to that. But you know, I must say that the thing I'm excited the most about is sort of a new project and it's this idea of household resilience. So what are technologies that we can develop uh you know that are fairly simple and straightforward that can help people in disasters or you know with climate disruption and so that households like mine you know like you know people that we're lucky enough to have a decent house but you know how are we going to survive when there's a hurricane or this or that and you know so there's some technologies we're working that can really help with that and so I'm pretty excited about that um sort of push into >> Oh I should have said guys shout out to Tim Ventur. I'll put a link in the chat here for you guys. Make sure you guys watch the live stream. We're watching on on fast speed and I will uh kind of give you any summaries of the key points here. But go ahead and check it out. Follow which which channel is this on? Oh, it's on his Tim Ventura channel. Follow Tim Ventur on his channel. Watch the APAC conferences. I mean, he gets the best interviews. So, here you go. this household resiliency through simple technologies. >> Yeah, that is really exciting and that's off my list. I just have to go from kind of memory and other things that I've read about that. But one of the things that my research has been showing me lately is and not a surprise to anyone. You know, global climate change does seem to be happening. Who caused that? I don't know. And that's topic for Chad. Why are they all obsessed with climate change? Chat, I'm gonna have to debate. I'm gonna have to debate Tom Voluone on this climate change thing. We got to put this thing to bed. Chat, we got to come out. We got to let them know. If free energy is real, climate change is honestly just the dumbest thing ever. I mean, it's not that we You know what? Sure. We're we're changing the climate. You know what? Well, I'll even I'll even give you that point, but it's just like we can fix it so easily. It seems like such a silly thing to be worried about >> for another time. But like like myself, I tend >> people maybe do a disservice to to everybody if you know assuming that you have to simplify things very you know all the way. But I think people can really when when you get into the meat of it um you know it's very understandable you know I am not a coherent >> you know I don't have a PhD I'm kind of self-taught um you know so if I can understand it I feel like and explain it I feel like pretty much anyone can and but I want to say you know we don't pay much attention to our website unfortunately so we haven't updated that in a long time. uh the YouTube channel with all the talks are are really >> so I would like to put up my screen share now I am really excited about this what I tried to do was create some visualizations for the audience so that they would just intuitively understand some of the ideas that you're working on one of these the first one up here on the screen is the coherent matter wave beam for people who are hearing about this for the first time what are you trying to create >> yeah so we're trying to put particles like electrons or atoms in phase together like a laser. So a laser works you know with photons which is light by having them all be the same phase. In other words all marching together at the same time and you know all coherent you know all at the same instead of it you know um multiple different um phases or just not lined up. So we're trying to line that all up but instead of doing that with photons to do that with particles which are called firmians versus bzons which are and firmians are not known they cannot occupy the same state like a photon can but we think we've figured out a way um and it's really thanks to my colleague I mentioned before Dr. Mo Arman um who I worked with at Lockheed who originally came up with this idea and then we refined it. But it's a novel way of putting particles into coherence which no one has ever been able to do before. Um you know people chat I feel like this is what I just said. How different is this than what I just said is how you change an electromagnetic beam. He's saying here we want to take particles. We want to put them into phase, get them all lined up. And he's about to basically say that what we think of as matter is actually waves. Even though it doesn't seem that way, it really is. So this should be possible. I must say people do make what's called a Bose Einstein condensate, which is at super low temperatures, like almost absolute zero. Uh you know, you can make a single quantum state of particles. And so you know, why would we want that? Why do we want to do this is that um you know think of a beam that is a million times more powerful than a laser um which would have obvious applications but I think >> so why [clears throat] is what he just said there so important if I want to make a gravitational beam like I just told you guys getting something that's a million times more powerful than a laser it doesn't get us there but it gets us a lot further going to be a a lot easier if we can do it with matter than if we just have to do it with uh lasers. Might be possible with lasers still, but point is we're trying to get every little inch of energy density that we can get so that we can manipulate spaceime. And this is another mechanism that pushes us up a lot. According to Charles Chase a million times, that's six layers. So yes, this is basically a beam. This is a beam. when they talk about directed energy weapons and all that crazy stuff, this is what they're talking about. >> Even more exciting to me, and I think since the last time we talked, uh we've uh been focusing more on this area, which is uh enabling new chemistry. >> So, by controlling the phase of atoms, uh we can make them combine in different ways. And so, you know, all molecules um are waves. You know, we think of them as particles, but they're actually >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Stop there. Pause chat. Wait. If we can control the phase of particles, we can do chemistry, we can get them to combine in different ways. H how is this different than fusion? How is this different than fusion? Chat feels very very similar. In fact, I'm trying to figure out if you can do that, why can't you just do it with fusion, too? Why can't you reduce the cool barrier if you have some kind of magical way where you can like do chemistry super easily? Just logically in my mind that feels like it should make fusion easier because it's basically the same thing. H okay. Yeah. Okay. People Okay. I'm not the only one saying that, right? I just want to make sure I'm not crazy here because I hear that I'm just thinking h this also seems like this could make fusion super super easy. Also, this is alchemy we're talking about now. We're talking about alchemy now. Now it's like why can't I just do Star Trek replicator? If I can do this, you can 3D printing waves. People have measured waves of things like vitamins of you know all things, right? So even very large atoms or molecules or waves and but by controlling the phase of those waves we can make them combine in different ways that um we currently can't do. So therefore uh you know combining atoms molecules together that's chemistry. So we can make new things and um also enable deposition on a very fine really small scale. Our calculations show down to 0.2 nanometers of resolution. So you can make uh new sort of structures and do like atomic assembly or um atomic uh direct manufacturing. And so that's >> Yeah. So like he's already listed about three things that can get your patent classified or get you killed. We can make uh Star Trek replicators. We can make goybeams that are maybe manipulate gravity with this thing. We can do microchip lithography. That's at a super super tiny scale potentially down to the atomic scale lithography. Yeah. All these things are This is alien technology chat. If you're looking for the alien technologies, here you go. Here it is. Actually, doing that is easier than making a beam that that maintains coherence over a long distance because your working area for the new chemistry or for the deposition is a very small area. So we can maintain that coherence >> over that smaller area. And so I think that's a you know it's a shorter putt than making an actual beam. >> Okay. Okay. So I want to jump now. And again we have a lot of slides to go through. So I'm going to go over to Camer Energy again. You are >> this is like this is like Charles Chase recapping the last two years of the science felony physics live streams. Casemir cavity. Now we're just going to what? Talk about Garrett Modell. We're just going to go through every single one of the engineers and their free energy microchips. Yes. Yes, we are. Here we go. Sweet. Okay. Awesome. This is like chat. This episode of the Ash and Forbes uh Hardru podcast live stream, whatever we call this, I forget. This is basically those midway episodes in the animes, like episode 13.5 where it's like a rehash stream, except for it's even better because there's all original content. Okay, here we go. We're >> working on the cutting edge. This is amazing stuff. This is uh Dr. Harold Sunonny White has just recently made headlines about this. Dr. Garrett Modell has been doing work and you have been collaborating with both of them. So you are right at the heart of this, but you are looking at this a little bit differently than they are, right? >> Yes. So um you know what you're showing there is illustrating the Casmir effect which is um you know the way people talk about the Casmir effect is that in between a couple of plates you don't have as many vacuum modes as you do outside. And since there are fewer modes inside the plate than outside, you generate a pressure that pushes uh the plates together and that's called the kasmir effect. But you know I I really wanted to point out um that the kasmir effect does not prove the existence of the vacuum fluctuations. >> You know despite you know people commonly say that um you ask chat GPT that's what it'll tell you. But you can you can come up with the kasmir effect or predict the casemir effect using something called radiation reaction that you never use vacuum fluctuations at all. Same with other uh phenomena that people attribute to vacuum fluctuations like what's called the lamb shift which is a frequency shift. Uh you can >> chat it it might be over chat Charles Chase just debunked us chat I can't take all the black pills chat too many black pills. Lindsay Chansy didn't kill her children. Chat starting to get to me. He just told us he just destroyed us, chat. He said the lamb shift and the Casemir effect are not proof of zero point energy. He said radiation reaction, whatever that means. We'll Google it later. He says that can explain it. Chad, we might be cooked. We might be cooked, chat. also calculate that with radiation reaction not invoking the vacuum at all. Now you cannot have a um the quantum electronamics theory that you know we use for predicting all this stuff you need a a bottom amount for that math to work. So for quantum electronamics to work, you need a fundamental fluctuation in that for the calculations to work. And you know they work to what 17 17 um >> we got rescued chat. Quantum electronamics requires the fluctuations to exist. I chat I was about to melt down. But wait a minute wait a minute. Who invented quantum electron dynamama kicks or whatever he just said? Hold on. Let's go find out. Chat, this is very serious. We have to figure this out. Let me Google this for you. Quantum Oh, wait. You guys want to see this? Hold on. Okay, let's Google this chat. [snorts] Who quantum electron dynamics? Who figured this out? Let's see who's Okay, Google. Let's see. Uh, Richard Fineman. Wow, chat. Richard Feineman is the one that figured out quantum electronamics, which requires the vacuum fluctuations to exist. So why the hell am I listening to his son, Richard Fineman's son, trying to tell me that vacuum fluctuations aren't real? Your dad is the one that proved they're real. Damn. Turns out we didn't get dunked on. Turns out Charles Chase just came off the top row with the people's elbow for Coral Fineman. Damn chat. I'm glad Charles Chase dropped this. This is why like the Eric Weinstein and the Sabine Hosenfelders, they should have debated me like a month ago or a year ago. I'm getting all the answers to their little gotcha questions they're going to ask me when we eventually do debate. They're going to go, "Well, it turns out the radiation reaction can explain the lamb shift in the kasmir effect. How do you answer that, Ashton?" I'm going to go, "Well, doesn't give a I don't give a because quantum electronamics requires the vacuum fluctuations to exist." You you believe in quantum electronamics, right? Have you been on a plane? That's how I'm going to respond, chat. 100% just like that. Okay, here we go. Decimal point of precision. You know, quantum electronamics, well proven, but you need vacuum fluctuations for that theory to work. Does that say that vacuum flu equations are real, or is it that's just the way our theory works? So, you know, and people have measured like the interaction or uh between vacuum fluctuations and like electric fields and they back out with the vacuum fluctuation is has anyone actually seen a vacuum fluctuation? I don't I don't think so. But I so you know I just I think it's important to know that you know that the the fundamental aspect of that and yet like you said I am driven I I believe that uh vacuum fluctuations are real and that uh we can use them and uh you know and that's what what I've been pursuing with my resonant tunneling diode work where we can generate a force by creating an asymmetric situation where the vacuum fluctuations couple to the tunneling current in the diode and that generates a force. So, let me jump. >> So, what was important? Charles Chase believes vacuum fluctuations are real and we can tap into them. And Charles Chase knew Ben Rich. That's all I need to hear. Ben Rich said we can take ET home. Uh, that's good enough for me. Charles Chase is 0.0001% Loheed Martin fellow engineer in the revolutionary technologies division of the Loheed Martin skunk works. That's plenty enough for me for know that this dude's on some alien type 100%. I don't know if it comes with little green men or AI super intelligences. Doesn't really matter. He's on that He's into it. over to that since we're talking about vacuum fluctuation. That was the next slide. Casmmer effect sets that up. And so I'm so pleased. Let me apologize for for butdding in there, but I'm so pleased that you're transitioning over to that because this is your idea. Also, there are several people working on cimer effect research. You're the only person I know of who is looking at utilizing some of this for vacuum fluctuation propulsion. >> Right. Right. And so, you know, that has been a dream of of many people over the years. you know there's been a lot of different concepts of how you can use the vacuum for generating >> forces um >> but I think we have something unique and and like I was saying it works um you have a what's called a resonant tunneling diode which has a um a quantum well which is you know say a two nanometer little area that electrons tunnel through. So even though the electrons don't have enough energy to actually pass through because inside the diode there's a a voltage and um you know and that voltage drives a current but even at a level of voltage that's too high for the electrons to go through they do what's called tunneling through and so um the vacuum fluctuations will couple to that tunneling current and since you have this asymmetric situation with the potential the voltage uh inside the diode uh it creates a situation where the fluctuation move in a preferential direction and that generates a momentum. Now, >> okay. Wow. So, he says we're going to use this electromagnetism on the tiniest scales and we're going to create a quantum effect where our electrons are going to tunnel through a barrier they can't tunnel through. And when they do this, it's going to pull the 0 point energy with them. It's going to pull the zero point energy with them. It's going to give us a force, a unidirectional force. Sounds like a beam to me, chat. I don't know about you. I'm not uh you know, I'm just a lowly healthcare IT guy. That sounds like a goybeam to me. Um again, back to if you were going to ask a physicist, is that possible? They would say no. Hell no. You cannot do that because from some of our fundamental physics theories say that you can't there's something called like a center of mass. So if you you know you can you know you can't create momentum outside of a system right there's something called the the stress energy tensor which is from electromagnetics where you integrate the essentially all the forces around the body and that always comes to zero. And then there's also energy considerations as well like unless you're breaking um time symmetry you can't uh generate energy or forces. So all these fundamental physical laws that we have um and we call them laws even though they're just what we think the way things work you know. So law is probably a you know a lot of the words we use are crappy words. Um you know so even though it's it's a law so hell no you can't generate forces from a vacuum because and the vacuum fluctuations according to quantum electronamics the momentum of that in free space goes to zero at all times everywhere according to our theories. >> So what's Charles Chase saying here? He's saying the NPCs don't get it. He's saying the people that haven't worked with the alien physics, they can't understand it. They say that you're cheating the laws of physics. You're breaking the laws of thermodynamics. That ain't possible. You can't do this. Well, what are they getting wrong? Because this is what I would have asked Charles. I would said, "Well, what are they getting wrong? Why are you right?" And you know what he's going to say? Because the vacuum fluctuations are real. and the vacuum fluctuations can do work. We're not manipulating the actual object. We're manipulating the fluctuations that they don't think exist. The entire source of energy they don't think is even there. The same reason why they don't understand the ground state of the hydrogen atom. Because in their minds, their view is a atom that's in this perfect isolated state, not being disturbed, never running out of energy because it doesn't need to. But that's not really what's happening, is it? We have to go back to our initial preconceived notions about electromagnetism and re-evaluate them. The a vector potential was left out. You may say, Ashton, what does this mean? What does it actually mean? What does it matter? It means there really is an extra dimension. Really means that what we think of as the lowest ground state is not actually the lowest. It means this energy, they think there's no energy there to be tapped. It means it's actually probably infinite energy to be tapped, like infinite. And our material science is simply not at the level right now because we're cavemen. We're ants. Our material science is just not at the level right now where we can tap it efficiently. But we will. We will. We 100% will. And that's the other reason why I haven't built anything. The material science is not at the level because to even make fabricate microchips you have to have an entire machine process and it's all controlled or inadequate. >> Now you know I I think >> oh sorry last thought on that microchip thing. Elon Musk knows this. This is why Elon Musk is making his huge what does he call it? Terra Fab. Is that what it's called? He's been showing pictures of it. This is why Elon Musk is making his own microchip manufacturing because he realizes that's the future. And if you want to have AI data center, you need the best microchips. And you're going to be having to make the better and better better ones. And those are going to be the companies that are worth trillions. >> That that there's actually um structure to the vacuum. In other words, you know, yes, things I think things actually can propagate through the vacuum and not sum to zero all the time, you know, and and I I look at things like dark energy where which is the the expansion of the universe is accelerating. In other words, there's a force making the universe expand faster. That's what our cosmological measurements uh tell us. And maybe that's someone else using the vacuum uh for something. And that's what we see is their vacuum trail. Uh which is actually what we call dark energy. I you know I don't know if that's true or not but you know anyway I hope I I hope that was uh >> yeah no that's absolutely wonderful. Absolutely. >> The dark energy shows the repulsive gravity. The physicists say the dark energy is how the universe accelerated faster than the speed of light. You say well that's what we need for negative energy too. This is why the dark energy is zero point energy. That's why he's bringing it up, by the way. >> Wonderful. Let me jump over now to quantum noise power device. So, this is actually one I came up with to kind of showcase Dr. Garrett Modell's patent and his name and the patent number are in kind of small print there. So, he is doing some really, really remarkable work. Again, he is aligned with what Dr. Harold Sunonny White is doing. And you are more familiar with that work than probably anybody else in the world. So, I wanted to just at least put this up and try and gather some of your comments on it. Again, this is the Cimemer effect, but I believe they're trying to harness its energy in different ways, right? >> Yeah. This was the first free energy microchip that I found, Garrett Mell that worked with Haluto off. Here we go. >> So, you know, Garrett makes um an optical cavity or like a casmmere cavity um that's asymmetric and um so if you think about two cavities, you know, one has a certain number of modes. So cas let me go back to kasmir you know we the modes or the frequencies inside the cavity are fewer than outside. So it generates a force that pushes it together. Now think of something that is held in place and you have one cavity has a certain number of modes and then you have another cavity that has fewer modes and there's a pressure difference and so that pressure difference in the vacuum causes a flow of electrons that through their um through their circuit is generating electricity. And so, you know, you could see in Garrett's papers and his patent that they've measured this and um you know um they call it they can't to get the paper published they couldn't call it vacuum fluctuation force. It's like a optical cavity force. I forget exactly what he calls it but um you know and so whether that's been able to be >> so Garrett Madell they had to change the name and they can't call you can't call anything free energy over unity anything like 0 point energy tapping because then you know you'll get too much scrutiny the way I've always understood Garrett Modell at least from an analogy perspective is like a trampoline he has two cavities and they have different properties they're asymmetric so the idea is you're squeezing the electrons into a cavity where their orbital shifts just like we were explaining with the ground state of the hydrogen. Shift squeeze the orbital and then let the electron go to a different cavity and let it recover and then repeat the process and then because you're squeezing the electron orbital, you're pulling a little bit of energy out. That's it. That's the idea is that so when you guys say why don't you build something I say these guys are doing the thing that you're asking. and you're saying, "Why don't I build something?" I'm showing you the people that did build it, and they've been building it for 20 years, and there's been very little progress and advancement for reasons. Well, we talk about those reasons on other podcasts. Some of them interference, other situations, lack of commercial interest, brainwashing is probably the number one thing holding people back. Garrett Modell gets no mainstream interest whatsoever, even though he's got the experimental results. Oh, and the last thing I'll say, Anna, because a lot of you say, "Well, why aren't they trying harder to get their stuff out there?" I've spoken to Garrett Modell. I wanted to promote his work. I want him to come on my show so I can promote his work. He's not interested. A lot of these guys also realize they're also NPCs. They look at content like this and they go, I I can't ever be associated with Ashton Forbes. He's a brand risk. He'll he'll bring my credibility down in the academic circles. That's how they actually think. Even Salvatore Pais thought about that a little bit in the beginning. If you go back to our first interviews, now he doesn't care anymore because people kind of get over it and they realize that stuff doesn't matter. That peer pressure, that pressure to conform to academic standards, none of that matters anymore. We're moving past that in this day and age. But think about that. that holds them back. They won't go on Danny Jones even. They won't not only will they not go on my show, they won't go on someone even like Danny Jones because they consider a conspiracy slob. Charles Buer would. And I think these people should go on. It's the only way they're going to get attention to their technology. And I think they shouldn't run away from the fact that they're free energy microchips. They are free energy microchips. They should scream it from the rooftop. replicated or not by others, you know, I'm not really sure. Um, >> yeah. >> So, uh, you know, I think Garrett would uh take his data and say, you know, it looks really interesting, but those are really hard measures to measurements to make because he's measuring really small currents. And, you know, and then you have to worry about things like a um chemical potential like a battery, right? In a solid state object, uh, you can have that sort of chemical potential that drives a small current for a super long time. Like there's a guy I know from Germany, um, Marcus Reed, that made the reed cell. It's this thing, you know, lights up a little diode out of material and he thinks it's coming from the vacuum, but it could very well be just a um, you know, like a solid state battery that's generating a little bit of electricity. So, you know, these measurements are super hard to make. And I think uh, Garrett, >> this is the other big point. It's really hard to accurately measure this because these things, we're talking very, very tiny scales. Nobody has the money to scale it up to a huge level. So they're doing this in tiny scales and then you're measuring this and you're giving people room to doubt it. People are saying, "Well, it could just be air." This is what also holds it back. There's so many challenges that people don't realize when they just think, well, you made a free energy device. You should be a trillionaire. It's about a thousand hurdles preventing that from happening. But it will >> would talk about it like you know yeah looks like something but I'm not you know 100% sure. >> Absolutely. So let me jump now to Dr. Harold Sunny White's patent. Again his name are on this slide and kind of fine print. This actually I'm really pleased to be able to put these up back to back because a lot of people have asked what the difference is between Dr. Modell and Dr. White's patents what they're what they're attempting I guess. And so these visualizations hopefully make that more clear for people. Um I did an interview with him. He had described hoping to achieve output comparable to a solar cell except just like a solar cell you can put those in parallel to generate more energy and hopefully stack those in 3D. So if his idea comes to fruition like we're all hoping it will potentially this could be true zero point energy in our lifetime. Right. >> Right. Right. So you know Sunny is also taking advantage of vacuum fluctuation pressure in an asymmetric situation to generate that pressure so that the vacuum is not uniform inside his device. Um and he used something called the world line method for predicting this which you um can use to predict the vacuum fluctuations. And am I the only one that thought the world line was like some secret of mana or like chrono trigger thing? I was pretty sure that was like a video game thing. the world lines. But okay, whatever. Sorry, I digress. >> You know, um I remember when uh he made his first worldline calculations. You I've known Sunny for a long time since my days at the Skunk Works. And you know, he participated in all our advanced propulsion and energy things. You know, I've you know, I consider Sunny a good friend. Um just like Garrett, I think, is a really a good friend as well. But um when he showed his first worldline predictions of the vacuum between a sphere and a plate and I'm like look at that the pressure it's it's nonuniform we should be able to use that and so yeah he's off and running and you know hats off to him. I know they've raised a um decent amount of money. So what did he just say right there? probably the most important part. He said when he saw Sunny White's results with his sphere and the plates, he saw a nonuniform pressure differential and he said, "Oh, we can use that." What does he mean there? He's saying, "I'm seeing an asymmetry. I'm seeing a waterfall that we can tap into, that we can pull energy from. So, in theory, if that's legit, this looks like a good candidate for tapping the quantum fluctuations. And what are you realizing here is that it's starting to become indistinguishable when we're talking about tapping for free energy or tapping to make a gravity beam, propulsion device, beam. Why? Because the two concepts are the same. When you pull zero point energy out of the medium, you get energy and you also get propulsion, the dark energy, the reverse gravity, I think $12 million for their latest raise to try to turn this into a product. Um, and you know, I think Cam, who is a, you know, he's a great guy from NASA that, you know, um, an entrepreneur that funds a lot of these space things, you know, he funded the Limitless Space Institute. Hats off to Cam for supporting this type of breakthrough work, um, and enabling [clears throat] like Sunny to actually go and try to make this real. But again, I would say, you know, >> these measurements are super hard to make. >> So, yeah, you know, um, I can't comment on how valid the data is. I have not seen his latest data, you know. So, um, proof is always in the pudding, right? So, >> absolutely. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, these are hard measurements to make. >> And this is what I would say. Here's my comments on this. My comments on this. And by the way, when where I learned it, you can watch my live streams and you can figure out where I learned pretty much everything that I've learned in addition to the books that I've shared with you guys, but then a lot more scientific papers. But what you need to learn is intuitive. You don't need to learn a bunch of equations. You need to learn how the universe works. Universe is a giant energy cycle. The thing I would teach you here is be careful. Every single one of these microchips could fail. Every single one of them could fail. Garrett Mell's, Paul Tibidos, Sunny Whites, they could all fail. None of this is guaranteed. None of this is guaranteed. And I say that as somebody who believes unequivocally that we can tap a zero point energy and get free energy because number one, this is very difficult. Number two, it's very difficult to measure and be sure that you have something that's real. And number three, it's very difficult to get to market to get to commercial level without some interference, foreign sabotage, our own government shutting you down. There's about a million things that can go wrong at any given point in time. And that's why I think Charles Chase is being standoffish here. Why he's not all in because he knows it's theoretically possible and it can all work. He's just saying, "Look, I don't know what's going to happen here." And hopefully uh but I would say the the three things that we've talked about my resident tunneling diode forces Garrett's um optical cavities and uh Sunny's casmir power cell here they're all based on the same sort of thing of trying to create asymmetry in the vacuum and being able to use that to do work either a force or generate a current. >> Absolutely. So I have a few more. I do not want to fall into PowerPoint syndrome but I will jump through these really quick. Um, while I was working on this, I thought I would just do some visualizations. And, you know, since we're putting this up as video, if folks want to drill down on this, they could probably just pause and take a look at it. But, you know, there was how the quantum vacuum could produce a force and then after that, uh, unlabsed two proposed vacuum force experiments. And, you know, definitely feel free to stop me if you want to comment on any of these. I'm just kind of scrolling through here. >> Sure. Sure. Um, I'll say something about the rotating nanoparticle, which is >> pay attention to this. I am Ashton Coocher. Yes, I am. I'm better than Ashton Coocher, I'm Ashton four orbs. By the way, this nano particle thing right here, this right here is how you destroy the ground state of the hydrogen atom deniers. Why? cuz he's about to explain right here that the tiniest particles that the brownie in motion should set the tiniest particles to begin spinning to begin rotating to begin moving. So we if we live in this medium of energy then these particles absolutely have to be spinning even on the small scales. It's not just quantum spin. there's an actual real physical element to it. >> Work I did with um Jim Jim Jesy from UCLA and Sean Wean at Stanford under a DARPA contract and we showed that if you have a non-rescrocal nano particle u in this case a geotropic particle uh it will start rotating on its own from the thermal difference. So the difference in fluctuations are not from the vacuum. >> They're from the difference in the fluctuations of a thermal situation and it'll cause the particle to rotate on its own up to a really super fast speed. So uh we proposed to do an experiment to show that and design an experiment but never got the funding to do that. But that was a really very interesting project. A rotating nano particle just from the brownie in motion, just from the thermal fluctuations will go up to an extremely high speed. Wow. Yeah. Looking at that, that to me says that he's at least I think speaking to this idea that this spin could be inherent and be naturally occurring from physics and nature. So I think uh >> talked about the resonant tunneling diode already. >> Okay. So now I'm going to go over to coherent matter wave laser. Again this is just kind of a drill down on what you already described right and you know if people want to stop and zoom in they'll get a little bit more detail about what it is and why it matters. Again you have this patented and this is one of those big ideas that is just so compelling. It is so compelling. Um then we have the evidence ladder from physics to proposed engineering >> and let me see three routes to vacuum engineering from picon newtons to propulsion I know I'm zooming through these way too fast for anybody to take a look and then I also wanted to put in some bio stuff because again you are a rockar sir so this kind of goes through your history I mean you know nobody else has this collection [laughter] >> look at my dude's history chat It's like UC Berkeley 1985 1986 Loheed Martin. Okay. 2018 now I'm at the UNL lab. That's it. That's your whole resume. One job. One job and then you started your own like non forprofit. This guy, he's got the resume of somebody who's definitely been inside some alien spaceships. chat. If there are alien spaceships in Area 51 or whatever or Loheed Martin's got them, Charles Chase knows every single panel on that bad boy >> of incredible scientific engineering breakthrough experience that you do. So, >> thank you. So, I just one comment on this is the the little thing down there about culture, which I'm not sure people can read, but I'm sure when they zoom in they can. think that's really important to me is to create an environment of what I say is joy and ease and because you know that's how people when people do their best and um you know kind of to enable creatives to be creative right um I think is really important so the the culture the environment you create >> uh kind of turns into the work that comes out >> yeah and and look at this attitude that's the kind of attitude you need for somebody who's going to lead some projects on doing gravity manipulation you have to have this open attitude where everybody can express their ideas, where he can think outside the box. Like, he's the perfect leader. I've been in the corpo deadend job world for like 20 years, and I've seen it. I've seen multiple different managers and all of it. Charles Chase is the full package. He's absolutely the guy that's going to be the one that's going to lead the project to give you the the, you know, plasma orbs that can teleport spaceime. Like there's not a lot of people can be that guy. He is one of very few that I've ever seen. >> Yeah. So now I want to go to your PowerPoint and let me thank you for sending this to me. This is actually more technically accurate than kind of my slideshow. Um if it's okay I'll just kind of scroll through this. Um this is the one that you had sent over and again this will be up on the screen for folks. So there's some background. This is one that you >> pause chat. Pause chat. Full screen. Maximum screenage. I'm seeing skunk works chat. I'm seeing fusion reactor chat on the right. Hot compact fusion chat. Is there a hope? Is there a hope? I was watching this and I kid you not, true story. I text messaged Tim Ventura and I said, "Did he ask you? Did he say that you can't ask about Fusion?" Because I'm pretty sure I thought he couldn't ever talk about it. Let's find out. >> Tumbled. >> Yeah. I just, you know, if you don't mind me commenting just a little bit about some of the, you know, a thing that I worked on at Lockheed is this new approach to hot compact fusion. It was a Here [music] we go, baby. Hot compact fusion. Okay, let me scroll back. Sorry, I ruined it. I ruined the surprise. >> You know, if you don't mind me commenting just a little bit about some of the, you know, a thing that I worked on at Lockheed is this new approach to hot compact fusion. It was an idea of Dr. Tom Magcguire and again that was to provide energy for everyone. you know, we thought we could use it to fly an airplane as well. Um, so imagine an airplane that would never have to refuel because you have a fusion generator on board. Um, and so that that was I'm not sure, you know, it was still going when I retired. I'm not sure. They've said publicly that uh they've stopped work on it, but you know, you never know what the skunk works what they're really doing. So I don't what you never know with the skunk works what they're really doing. That's from a dude who was the director of the revolutionary technologies division of the skunk works saying that it was still going when I left. I heard they stopped but I don't really know guys chat. Do you think that they stopped a project that was going to let airplanes fly forever without ever having to refuel? Do you think that would be like maybe a competitive advantage for airplanes that they can fly forever without fuel? Like Charles Chase literally just said, I don't think they scrapped that project. You know what? If I'm an investor, if I'm an investor of Loheed Martin and they scrap the project that allows planes to fly forever, I'm gonna be pretty upset. Gonna be a little bit angry. Feel like we might have uh given up one that we could have used there. Oh, and by the way, Loheed Martin recently, just a year ago, said that they've developed some magical, quote, their words, magical technology that's a gamecher that they can't talk about right now. Could be anything. Could be fusion, could be not. This is going to be the worst kept secret. This is like trying to keep Robert Downey Jr. being Doom, Dr. Doom secret. These guys are trying to keep Fusion secret and like it's going to be everybody's gonna already know. They're going to come out. Lohee Martin's going to come out in 2028 and they're going to be like, "We figured out Fusion, everybody." And we're going to be like, "Yeah, everybody knows. Ashton Forbes figured it out that you had figured it out like 10 years ago." Jeez, chat. Okay, by the way, did I say I love this man? Because I do chat just plutonically in a very plutonic and natural obsessive stalkerish kind of way. By the way, I'm the I'm the president of the Charles Chase fan club. Y'all can fight me for that brand risk. >> I don't know where that project is. And I just want to say most of my engineering work uh I've done a lot of work on stealth technology um multisspectral stealth technology um the what did he just say? Hold up. Monka s chat. What did he just say? What do you say he does at Loheed Martin? >> They've stopped work on it, but you know, you never know what the skunk works, what they're really doing. So, I I don't know where that project is. And I just want to say most of my engineering work, uh, I've done a lot of work on stealth technology. Um, multisspectral stealth technology. >> Multi-spectral stealth technologies. Chad, this was a rabbit hole. Not going to lie to you. went down like a threehour rabbit hole reading scientific papers about multisspectral stealth technology and it was a mind-blowing experience. I've now come to the conclusion that some of the UFOs we're seeing are using advanced stealth technologies to make them invisible in mid-range infrared, far range infrared, whatever the various infrareds and visual all at the same time. All at the same time. And what they say they're trying to do is make it so that the temperature, the thermal heat that these objects give off, they're trying to make it uniform. And I think about this and I look and I go, "Wait a minute. So if I'm looking at this this object that's covered in this advanced stealth technology, it's just going to look like a blob. It's just going to look like a blob, especially in the infrared because the whole point is they're trying to make the light bend entirely around it. They're trying to make it so that you can't see this thing in any spectrum in any of the predator visions or any of the other visions. H interesting. So, what I like about this exactly cloaking technology. Who said it? Nancy. gold star for you, Nancy, today because some of these UFOs are going to be using advanced cloaking technology. Some of them are potentially fusion reactors and gravity manipulations and some of them are also just using advanced cloaking technologies. So now we've added a new tool in our tool bank in our arsenal when we are analyzing UFO videos. Charles Chase just gave us the missing piece. Which also tells you, by the way, Charles Chase knows exactly about those MH370 videos. Exactly about them. The dude is literally his job was multi-spectral stealth and we're looking at some plasma orbs in an EOIR color feed. Of course, he knows what we're looking at. That dude, if he could speak freely, he would probably do like a twohour lecture on those videos and exactly what they show. >> Okay. Sorry. Let's go on. >> Okay. Yeah. Well, and and it's fair to say again, a lot of that stuff we can't talk about, but that is totally cool. Yeah. It it goes to your background. It's that gestalt of knowledge, right? So then you also did have kind of a drill down. So this is actually kind of our third slide on phase controlled matter beam. Um but again yours is definitely more technically accurate and you had some stuff the kuramoto synchronization you've got some stuff in that that is >> the secret sauce is this using the vector potential to change the phase of the matter waves >> without uh any energy exchange. So the vector potential >> chat we are back. We are back baby. Did Charles Chase say that's the secret sauce? Were those the exact words that just came out of Charles Chase's mouth? Hold on. Did you guys just hear what I just said and said, "Hey, it's all about getting these things in phase and twisting the phase of the beam." Hold on. Let's Let's just go back. What did he just say? Chat, pay attention. Get your clips ready, chat. Get your clips ready. >> Accurate. And you had some stuff the kurumoto synchronization you've got some stuff in that that is >> so that's the secret sauce is this using the vector potential to change the phase of the matter waves without uh any energy exchange. So the vector potential is actually more fundamental than the fields the magnetic field and the electric field. Actually the vector potential is the source of all that. And the vector potential can exist with no fields being present. And when that vector potential is there, it changes the phase of things with no energy exchange. It's called the Arnoff bomb effect. And that's what you need to get these particles that normally don't want to be in phase to get in phase. So that's the secret sauce right there. >> Okay. Okay. So I'm going to scroll. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Uh yeah, a little better than Okay, that's Charles Chase just factchecking my post saying, "Yeah, we're using the A vector potential. the A vector potential can change the phase of matter waves using the Arenhoff bomb effect that the A vector potential is literally literally the secret sauce. It's literally the secret sauce. You heard it right out of the man's mouth himself, Charles Chase. I would have fallen out of my chair if I was interviewing Charles Chase and he said that to me. Literally fallen out of my chair and wondered what reality I'm in that I'm hearing such words. Holy crap. Wow. Okay. down now to cassamer force and again we're just running through a lot of the stuff that we've already covered doing it in more detail with different visualizations. So um again this is something that you have gone through several times. >> Yes. >> Okay. And let me see actually you had mentioned this you highlighted this. You're saying it doesn't prove the existence of vacuum fluctuations. Um but qu theory requires it. That's kind of an interesting aside there. >> Right. Right. That is uh pretty interesting. And um you know and and then this this information on the right there about the vacuum energy of free space which that's dark energy 10 the -9 jewels per cubic meter and QED predicts that it would be 10 to the uh what is that 113 so 120 orders of magnitude off from what we measure versus what we predict. So something is wrong there. And if you think about how much energy density from the vacuum is over the visible spectrum >> in your eye, it's a huge amount of energy and yet it doesn't, you know, our eye doesn't burn up. So, you know, that's kind of interesting, too. But, you know, the most important thing I think here is that there's a new simplifying conception that, you know, this idea of particles and um things like that interacting is really wrong because it's the interaction itself. There are no without an interaction there isn't anything. So, and you can look at >> Wait, wait, wait, chat. I emailed Charles Chase like a year ago and I read the email on the live stream. Read it on the live stream and it was something about there are no independent things. Everything is an interaction. You guys remember that? If you guys don't remember that, think back. Recall that. Bring that info back. I think it's going to be really familiar in a second. Before we get to that though, I want to read a little bit on the screen here. He says the vacuum catastrophe is in the top right. In the top right of this slide, it shows the difference between the energy that we can measure of the vacuum, which is almost nothing, and the energy that quantum mechanics says should be in the vacuum, which is roughly 120 orders of magnitude difference. And then here's a quote. Both radiation reaction and the vacuum electromagnetic field are required for the consistency of quantum field theory and atom field interactions right there. Atom field interactions require the vacuum fluctuations. So when people come to you and say, "No, the atom is just like this frozen quantum state that's perfectly stable that doesn't ever change," you say, "Yeah, that doesn't really work with quantum electronamics. You have to have vacuum fluctuations. It has to be in this royal sea of energy for that to work." I really like this though that the experimental confirmation of the kasmir effect does not establish the reality of zero point fluctuations because kasmir forces can be calculated without reference to the vacuum. This would have definitely caught me in a debate but now it won't anymore. Okay. um quantum electronamics it's the correlation functions which are two things interacting together that really give you the scattering amplitudes and the physics solutions. So even quantum electronamics and you know someone who knows that quant QED will go oh yeah of course it's only interactions but so we do ourselves a disfavor by thinking about separate things >> like you and I are not really separate right now we're actually you know interacting and therefore part of me is actually you and part of you is is me you know it's the interaction is what's fundamental the interaction not the separate things there's nothing separate ever at any time anyway thanks for letting Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. No, I'm pleased as punched to have you with me today. I'm just going to go down. >> He just said the exact thing that he sent me in the email. There are no separate interactions. Everything is an interaction. The whole thing. He just did the whole spiel chat. I think it was exactly verbatim. I haven't read it in a while. It's been like a year. I think it was exactly verbatim that he just said right there. Let me just go back like 30 seconds. We're not going to go to the whole thing, but >> is what's fundamental, the interaction, not the separate things. There's nothing separate ever at any time. Anyway, thanks for letting me >> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. No, I >> the exact same thing. It's like he just copy and pasted it out of there. Does he tell everybody that? I've never heard him say that other than when he said it to us chat. Charles Chase, send me your energy. Send me your energy. Charles Chase, I need it. Please, it's punched to have you with me today. I'm just going to go down here to what is required by physics to generate forces from vacuum fluctuations. Again, you were drilling down into the cimer effect and this vacuum energy. One of the things that I love about your work is you're going down to the level of that emerging science and you're saying, "Hey, how can we turn this into products that do things in the real world, you know, and so, you know, this is just kind of covers in detail the point I was making before. Our physical theories say no, you cannot do anything with the vacuum. Absolutely not. you can't generate a current, you can't generate a force, you can't do anything um unless you break symmetry or you have a non-equilibrium situation. Um so that you know that's uh so what we're trying to do you know Garrett uh Sunonny myself other people out there goes against the dogma of what science believes. >> Okay. So go down to asymmetric fluctuation flow force and we're going even deeper in the physics. Again I appreciate you're sending this to me so much. It's wonderful to see the visualizations that you have in here as well. I think this >> you know kind of micron scale and it bends uh with a force. So you can measure gravity for example there it's super sensitive um and this is doing work with Jim Jim Jeski from UCLA um excuse me >> uh don't mind him >> uh cat. >> So anyway so you know this is just some pictures of the um samples that we've made and we use something called a white light interferometer to measure the deflection of that can lever. So um we were really excited some of the first data we had. So this can lever what his experiment is here is a canol lever is just like a bar that can bend and all he's trying to do here Stephen if he can make the bar bend why because that's a force and we can use that force for propulsion simple right you know it went down as it should with gravity the canal lever and then the ones with the asymmetric structures went in the other direction and we're like it's working but we found out unfortunately that there was some stresses in the canal lever from the deposition of the structures that was, >> you know, messing up the data. So, >> it's how I'm trying not to be full conspirator, but every single time Oh, there was a deformationation that was messing up the data. We would have had proof that we can manipulate gravity, but turned out there was just happened to be a a problem with the data. We had to throw it out. starting to wonder if like some of these problems with the data might not be a little bit organized. That's all I'm saying. >> We couldn't come to a a solid conclusion. So, we're making new structures actually was Sandia National Labs is building some structures for us that we're going to be measuring uh pretty shortly here. >> They couldn't come to any conclusions. Chat, they couldn't come to any conclusions, but Sandia National Labs is building some new ones for them. One of the main Department of Energy labs, Sandia Labs, is building new ones for Charles Chase. You guys are like, "Hey, hey, Ashton, why aren't you building anything?" Uh, cuz I don't have connections to Sandia National Labs to build me some nano microchip thingamajigs. I mean, [laughter] okay. Well, and so one of the takeaways that I have from that as well as what you said earlier is these are >> the point is do you see how they can control it? Because if you really boil it down, you say, "Okay, well, why don't people just build this?" You realize like the means of manufacturing this stuff is all controlled and it's controlled by the government. The government controls the man the microchip manufacturing process. They control all the high energy physics, all the fusion physics. It's like no wonder we haven't been able to get it out. control all the easy pathways where anyone could actually build something that would be indecis uh um indisputably real, >> difficult to test because you're dealing with such incredibly tiny sensitive things, right? >> Yes. Right. And there's always confounding things, right? So you have to worry about other fields interfering with it or you know um that um you know all sorts of things you have to worry about that uh looks like a signal but is really something else you know that's confounding and messing up your data. >> Okay, let me scroll down to let me see I think we're at page eight of 13 here. Fluctuation flow propulsion changes the game. So this actually shows basically you were looking and comparing kind of the curves for a bunch of different >> I'm going to just explain this part in the interest of time to skip ahead a few minutes here. But if you look at this he's showing all the different types of propulsion. We've actually seen this graph a lot because we've been reviewing fusion and fusion is the most efficient way other than antimatter matter propulsion which isn't really within the realm of material science at this point. So what happens though when we do look at vacuum fluctuations when we look at pulling energy out the back how does the efficiency compare it's infinite the star on the top right is more efficient than any other energy mechanism or propulsion mechanism it potentially approaches infinite efficiency when it comes to an ISP perspective which is how much propulsion you get out of the net input it's it approaches infinite If it isn't infinite, that's how big this is. This is why it's hidden. This right here is exactly why this technology is hidden because it's not just a game changer. It's literally free energy. It obsoletes every form of propulsion that exists. And the only reason why you're even using fusion is because you need some form of energy generation that exists in our three-dimensional reality. That's the only reason why you're even doing fusion. It's the most efficient form of energy generation that you can use in our three-dimensional reality without using vacuum fluctuations. And this is why I love the idea of catalyzed fusion. Vacuum catalyzed fusion as Douglas Miller I believe has coined it. is that the moment you figured out vacuum fluctuation, how to harness that energy, the system you want to create is one that utilizes fusion as the intermediary types of propulsion systems. I see pulse fusion, antimatter, continuous fusion, uh as well as many others, right? And so how does vacuum fit into this? >> Yeah. So um our predicted the amount of force we can generate which is 9 newtons per kilogram with an array of these devices and you can see some other um from Mike McCau >> energy generation and I see um a few of those have been at the APEC conference. So I am absolutely pleased to see that the EM drive is there as well as some of the stuff that NASA or Sunny has done at NASA. So it's absolutely amazing >> right and so it's you know people have been after propellantless propulsion and generating energy you know there's the quantized inertia from Mike McCull. know he's been at your um your Saturday thing that you >> Mike McCulla gets a shout out >> do and you know and uh Jim Woodward with his PC electric device and Brandenburgg with some uh coupling of electromagnetics with gravity and then >> Woodward Brandenburgg >> Charles Buer with his asymmetric capacitor >> Charles Buer was just on Danny Jones with Andrew I think he goes by Drew they're all legit >> um Sunny with his asymmetric cavity um and now the Kazmir battery and Garris's work there you could see as well but other people then try to replicate these things and uh so for example there's professor Tamar at Dresden who specializes in this advanced propulsion um that he's had null results for all this tries to test all this stuff uh the Naval Research Lab George Hathaway others none of this has been replicated so what gives what is up with that you know I mean people you know with the EM drive measure force And then uh other people claim it's you know from interference from >> so this is really important right we want to know what is his perception on why why can't it be replicated why why is George Hathaway showing null results on all this stuff when he's testing it when it's got to be real what's someone do how what are they doing wrong exactly and and this right here is another big point the pis effect what is the py effect it is electrically charged matter under rapid acceleration, transients or vibration. If I think about that, I think Salvatore Py is basically trying to put the py effect. He's trying to name how you condition the a vector potential because that's how you do it, right? Electrically charged matter. That's how we're going to produce our coherent a vector potential from you know thermal effects or electromagnetic and like what Charles Buer is doing those measurements are really hard to make because you know you always have us the results we expect because we bake it so >> really hard to measure. Yep. Yep. >> Yeah. Okay. And so then some of the other >> Yeah. So you know what I really like to say you know like I said the our physics models say nope can't do that but the models we have give us the results we expect because we bake in our observations and so you know they're baked in to make sure we observe that things are lurent what's called lorren and variant or that energy is conserved right um that's what we've observed so far so we make sure that the models give us that answer >> this is essentially Charles Chase saying The only reason why we're not seeing it is cuz we're not doing the types of experiments that unlock gravity. We're not doing those high energy physics experiments. We're not at the smallest scale level in the microchips yet. Our lasers aren't at the powerful enough level yet where they're able to easily manipulate spaceime. But once we do that, these assumptions, laws of physics are now going to have to be better understood. That's what Charles Chase is saying here. And the fact that he does it in this way tells you that he knows. It tells you that he knows. And this is his way of trying to break through the psychological conditioning. He's going, "Guys, these laws of physics, they're not the be all end all. there is that source of energy. Screwed if you're wrong about something, right? There goes your that you know we have. >> Yeah. Well, and so and you got to, you know, if you're a professor at a university, the worst thing in the world is to be wrong about something. You are screwed if you're wrong about something, right? There goes your reputation. So, they're all really careful, you know? And >> what did I tell you guys? They're careful. They're scared. The academics are scared. their reputation. If they're wrong, their reputation is ruined. This is why they don't want to come on this show. This is why they're afraid to come out and speak about their free energy microchips. They don't want to get dog piled. They don't want to get ruined. They don't want to get their reputations destroyed. They don't want to get pawns and fleshman. It's the system, you know, the outcome of the system is what the system is designed to do in a way. You know, there's that old system engineering saying, the system is what the system does. So, you know, the the university system, academic system is designed that way and that's the result we get. And so, you know, I've always been just trying to push on that and have enabled people to think, you know, out of the box saying it sounds so trit, you know, but to think of in different ways and about different >> This is what happens when you've been redpilled. This is what happens when you've been redpilled and then you've been blackpilled and now you're just basically clear. You reach the point where you're like, I just want to try to break through this psychological barrier that I didn't know existed where Charles Chase knows we got some alien technology, but he realizes that all these barriers for people to accept it, the academic roadblocks that people put in the way, the mind blocks people block themselves, we have to break through that. He's a better man than I chat. Now I'm gonna skip ahead to a certain part that I really like right up about here. >> I know does study this kind of side effect as as part of his magnetometer that's buried, you know, and is >> possible. This is a great note to probably end our slideshow. I think we have one more after this, but this is absolutely wonderful. Yeah, heavier than air flying machines, right? The airplane, they said that that was impossible forever and then it happened, right? I mean, rockets, uh, Redditors and debunkers and my biggest fans, aka my haters. I see some of y'all in the chat. I love you the most. I want you to listen up closely to what Charles Chase because this is my favorite slide. This is always my favorite slide right here. Heavier than air flying machines are impossible by Lord Kelvin. Do you guys believe that heavier than air flying machines are impossible? Have you have you been on a plane, chat? Turns out all the science bosses of the old day, we call, you know, Kelvin, as in the temperature Kelvin, named after him. Boom. Turns out he was a Chat. Oh, look. What did the New York Times say? A rocket will never be able to leave the Earth's atmosphere. 1936. 1936 the New York Times was printing that a rocket will never be able to leave the earth's atmosphere. Boom. Bitchified chat. >> Let me see. So I love this one from uh Peter Dubai who is a noble laureate visited George Helmmyer uh who was working at RCA and uh uh Peter Dubai tell Helmmy that liquid crystal displays would never work. You know he had all these reasons why it wouldn't work. Well Helmmyer couldn't tell him. He already had it working in the lab, but it was proprietary, so he couldn't talk about it. So, here's a Noval laurate telling George Hellmire, uh, the f he's a famous DARPA guy as well, that the thing that he already had working wouldn't work. And then I hear guys like the >> chat, LED screens are fake news, chat, who said that LED screens were real? Turns out they've been debunked, chat, sorry. You thought your LED TV screen was real? It's not, I'm afraid. George Hellmire or Peter Dubai chat. He He's a No, he was a Nobel Prize winner. He debunked it. He said it couldn't be done. Obviously, they're not real. Obviously, they've been debunked. But the best one of all, what we're here for, chat, this is the main event. Sean Carol. Sean Carol of Caltech never gets to live this quote down. >> Sean Carol who I don't know um um you know he taught physics at Caltech >> that inject this pre-base this inject this directly into my veins. Here we go. >> And this quote I'm just going to read it. There's something called a warp drive. There are extra dimensions. There's a Kasmir effect. There's dark energy. All these things are true, but there's zero chance, zero, that anyone in our lifetimes or the next thousand years are going to build anything that makes use of any of these ideas for defense purposes or anything like that. I mean, what an >> I don't know, you know, God, he really sounds full of himself and so self assured, you know, I I'm really tired of self- assured people that think they know everything. >> I I I completely agree with you. You know, we live in A DID CHARLES Chase just swear my virgin ears chat a curse word chat from the goat from the pure white untouched innocent goat chat. Obviously, my man needs to go and throw some ice cubes into his bathtub. [snorts] It's very sad, chat. The postpartum depression that impacts men as well. What you just heard is not Charles Chase. That's not his normal self. That's not his normal loving self, chat. He just needs to go fill a bowl up with some ice cubes, head up to his bathroom, set up his set up his camera, turn on his Tik Tok videos, film himself throwing some ice into the tub chat, and then he'll be back. But no, in all seriously, in all seriousness, wow. Really tells you Charles Chase. I think he I think he likes what we're doing here, chat. think he needs a little anger translator. I'm afraid that Darth Four Orbs has retired for the time being. Dark Ashton not making an appearance right now. But if if a certain person were to request it, he might be able to come out of retirement. Wink wink nod nod. Sir Charles Chase. We have self-driving electric cars on the roads. We have rockets that land themselves on the pad in the middle of the ocean. Right. Right. I And we have AI writing poetry. I mean these for me these are mind-blowing things and I never would have anticipated them. >> Right. Right. >> Anyway, >> so I think experts always say it's not going to work. >> And yet this is the world. This is the universe we live in. Thousand each one of these spots almost everyone except that one is a galaxy. It's a separate galaxy of to billions of stars in each one. It's like what an amazing place we find ourselves in. >> Absolutely. >> To think we know everything and have created everything is is really foolish. >> Okay. Well, Charles, I think that was it for our slideshow, but I'm happy to kind of run through things more with you. So, again, you are right now you I mean to kind of bring things back from these giant >> and chat. That's why he's the goat. Chat, you know what? I think I'm gonna stop it there. I don't remember any relevant super relevant stuff from the end. uh questions. But that's why he's the GOAT because he knows all the free energy microchips. He knows all the engineers. He's worked on that alien technology before with Lockheed. He's working on the or he worked on the what was it the multi-spectral stealth technologies that they have. And he also dunks on the academics. He explains why the academics are wrong and their mindset that they have that denies the reality of this physics. It really scares me because I think back to that Obama clip. Did I play that clip on live stream? I think I did. If not, I'll play it right now. >> What's it doing? >> Electricity, Mr. President. Obviously. >> Why is it locked up in a place like this when it could be out there in the world doing good? >> It'll happen when you're ready. [music] >> When I'm ready. >> When the world is ready, Mr. President. >> Doesn't it feel like that's exactly it? When the world is ready. This all feels like when the world is ready. some stuff going on here where we don't even really have control of this that there's like some higher power that is already established exactly when this gets revealed in the future. And it has to do with some moral, cultural, societal understanding or level that we have to reach. And people like Charles Chase seem to be aware of this and they're doing their best to chip at chip away at it to get us a little bit closer to that time when we will be ready. That's what it feels like is happening. I don't know if that's exactly what's happening, but that's what it feels like is happening to me. Put your comments in the chat or in the chat in the comments in the video. Let me know what you think of the live stream, guys. I hope you enjoyed it tonight. Let's go to the super chats. Thank you everybody for hanging out and enjoying and uh watching our uh watch party here for Charles Chase Carrie Lake in the pill chat. Thank you very much for that cookie and thank you everybody from the woke society's raid. I got to figure out how to raid people so I can raid other people back. Thank you all for hanging out with me tonight. I appreciate you guys. Rumble chat. K Sierra, nice to see you guys. Adult Rumbler or a Dutch Rumbler, nice to see you hanging out tonight. SM Ashbos always hanging out as usual. Appreciate all you guys in the rumble chat. YouTube Bart Welding, thank you so much for that super chat. Bartt Welding, appreciate you, Matt Bartles, you the bomb. Dobby with a throbbie, welcome back. Dobby with a throbbie says, "Repeal the 19th amendment." Now, I've said this before. I'm not a bigot. >> [snorts] >> I am willing to give up my vote. Give up my constitutional rights so that Candace Owens is not allowed to vote. This proves that I'm not a bigot. Proves that it's not about being a woman. It's just about not letting stupid people make decisions. Just so happens a lot of them seem to be women. Bada bing, bada boom. Don't at me, chat. I love the ladies, chat. Not all ladies, not all women are candy culties. Not all of them. Only look the 99% make the other 1% look bad. Remember that chat. [clears throat] Devos. Holy smokes. $100 super chat. We eating good tonight. Divas says, "Your streams will go down in history. You disclosed free energy and the greatest conspiracy of all time to the masses. Keep going, brother." It's actually 100% true. Name me one conspiracy bigger than they're hiding literal free energy and teleportation and they teleported a Boeing trip 7. Honestly, just the teleporting a plane thing is probably the biggest conspiracy ever. Let alone mixing that with the real missing plane and a mystery related to that and free energy on top of that. [sighs] It's honestly, I used to say this a lot, it's too much. The reason why people couldn't believe MH370 is it's just too much. The alien people, the people that are like, "Well, I'm getting a I'm getting anally uh probed by aliens on the reggg." Even those people are like, "Nah, man. Teleporting airplanes is too much for me, bro." >> [laughter] >> They're going, "Look, I can get psionically raped by uh a little uh blue alien, but you tell me that we're teleporting planes. That is crazy, bro. That is crazy." [laughter] Yeah. That's when I realized we got a long way to go. This is not going to be a This is not going to be a quick road chat to the to the solution to the to the the end of the mystery. Divas, thank you so much, brother, for that huge super chat. Joy is Rossome. Please look up Dr. Jack Cruz and Light. Yeah, I think I have looked him up before. I am familiar. Also, I did email Dan Winter. Uh, it is kind of my fault. So, I forgot to follow up with him for like several weeks as you guys know, but I am going to try to get in touch with him and we may be getting the holy connection. Joseph P. Pharaoh responded and he didn't reject it. Now, we have some scheduling conflicts that we have to work out. So, no promises, but I'm going to try to get the gang together. Chat, could you imagine if we could get Joseph Frell, Salvador Pais, and Jason Georgiani on a on a live stream together? I'm going to try to make it happen. I might even have to take time off to make it happen, but I'll let you guys know. More to come. More to come. J Florex. Guys, I just realized that StreamYard doesn't get the super stickers. I think some of these are like super stickers with like emojis. I'm embarrassed to say if you've been sending me super stickers on on YouTube and have little pictures and they're not showing up. I just found out I got boomer I got too much boomer in me. But thank you so much for the super stickers and the chat and the uh uh super chats. Love the podcast. Keep up the good work. Thank you, Jay Florex. Appreciate for both. Appreciate both of those. Voice for good says, "Crappy words big on appropriate terms in context." Thank you, man. Appreciate that. Jil Robinson with the super sticker. No one knows what it looks like. Could be a little man with a smiley face. Could be a little cat waving. Appreciate you, dude. appreciate you. Dread uh Dread Max, I forget how you say. Uh whatever. You get my point. Dred uh DreadMax T-Rex. I think that's how you say it. Thanks, Ashen. No, thank you, brother. And then Stojan. Wait, did it crash? Oh, there it goes. Stojan says, "It makes you wonder whether a variant of the technology used on MH370 was used in 911." Now, I'm not really a 911 truther or anything like that. I'm on the record saying I'm full-on fed slop conspirator believer or non-conspirator believer when it comes to 9/11, but yeah, it does make you wonder. Actually, this technology existing makes you wonder about a lot of situations because now there's a lot of other plausible explanations for things that have happened. Now, what I would say on this front to Stojan, don't fall down the conspiracy rabbit hole. It's very easy to see that this technology is real and then start to believe that every single thing is conspiracy. Very easy. In fact, we have to be more diligent, more skeptical, more debunker than we were before. Now that we know this technology is real, we have to hold ourselves to even a higher standard for believing a conspiracy, believing a cover up, believing the guiums were deployed. Thank you all for the uh for hanging out tonight. We'll be back on Monday, guys, with another live stream. Um I'll have some more content for you guys this weekend coming out. Have a great night, MH370X. Love you guys. Peace out, everybody. [music and bell] Out in the fields where the [music] skies are wide. Talking about a journey through the cosmic ride. Einstein and Thorn, they set the stage for a trip through time across the space age. Wormholes connect distant points in space. Traversible paths to a far off place. 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