The Dark Secrets of Boeing - Bob Wood & Paul Czysz

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Carl Sean could not have predicted 2021, but he did see it coming. He wrote the following back in 1995, and we quote, "I have a foreboating of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time. When the United States is a service and information economy. When nearly all the manufacturing industries [music] have slipped away to other countries. When awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few and no one representing the public interest can [music] even grasp the issues. When the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably [music] question those in authority. When clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in [music] decline. Unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide almost without [music] noticing back into superstition and darkness. The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay [music] of substantive content in the enormously influential media. The 30-second sound bites now down [music] to 10 seconds or less. lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudocience [music] and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance. Roll that around for a while. [music] Those were among his final published words. He died 10 months later. Here we are [music] 25 years later realizing just what he was trying to tell us back then. >> Ashton Forbes, you know that super jacked guy. Malaysian 370 contact switch 120 decimal 97. >> Breaking news tonight. A Malaysia Airlines flight [music] with 239 people on board, including four Americans, has [music] gone missing. >> Even as these grainy satellite images released today by the Chinese government >> again, the Malaysian [music] platoon was a was one shot at China saying, "Knock it up. >> Why shoot it down though if it's not hostile? Our [music] technologies permit us to manipulate time and space. >> They need [music] distance annihilated. This country is very powerful. >> Far more powerful than people understand. We [music] have weaponry that nobody has any idea what it is. And it is the most powerful weapons in the world. Not even close. I remember the [music] line from Hindu scripture [music] is trying to persuade the prince that [music] he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form [music] and says now I am become death to destroy of worlds. [music] I suppose we all thought that one way or another. No, Mr. Nice Ashton today, chat. Straight into dark ash. Because you know what? I never get to tell the CIA and the spooks out there how I feel. I want them to know how I feel. Everybody thinks, "Oh, Ashton's a grifter. Like, I woke up one day and I decided I'm going to take these videos that I found on the internet and I'm going to make a lie up about them and I'm going to base my whole life on this new lie on that." I thought every day I'm going to try to live with that lie so I can try to make money off people on the internet selling to them that teleportation is real. You really think that about me? The truth is those videos are real. That is what we did to the plan. I want you to know I took your [ __ ] physics. I took your secret surveillance footage that leaked on the internet that you have 15 different counter measures to make sure people don't ever find. I took that [ __ ] and I made it a [ __ ] meme. I made it into a [ __ ] brand so that nobody would ever forget about it. And Conor McGregor, the MMA fighter, even knows about the videos and references them on podcast, on streams with people now because of me, because of what I did to you. And I'm not even close to [ __ ] done. I'm going to find out every single person that knows about that technology. I'm going to find out your weaknesses, exactly how your processes work, and I'm going to expose them in 4K to the world. I'm going to give that technology that you've been hiding for your self-righteous reasons straight back to the people who paid for it with their blood, sweat, and tears. So, get ready. Sorry, I just need to say that chat. Are you ready tonight? Boeing which in absorbed McDonald Douglas it turns out that's where Paul Sizz was working who we have recent previously discussed a neutronic fusion propulsion advanced fusion or advanced propulsion systems and he wrote one of the durs with the same name a legendary author I have his entire book up in front of me right now we're going to watch some of his clips some that we've already watched watched before, but now in a brand new light. That new light is he is one of the black project engineers. And so is his good friend Dr. Robert Wood, who we've never discussed on this show, on this podcast yet today. Both of them, both of them were at Stephen Greer's UFO serious disclosure group, the 2001 press conference. They were whistleblowers to Stephven Greer, telling him Paul Sizz and Robert Wood both telling him that we have this UFO technology. They had been working on the black projects themselves and they couldn't even say the na the names of the projects. They had code words that are classified that they can't even speak. Whether or not you agree with Steven Greer or not, I don't [ __ ] care. I don't care either. I don't care if you believe me. It doesn't matter. All you need to know is the technology is real and the United States government has it. Is Is everybody out there partially grifting off this? Maybe. Maybe every single one, including me. Which, by the way, do you want to know something else? 100% real. If you want to get paid on the internet, talk about zero point energy. You know how much Twitter paid me on Friday when after Elon Musk retweeted one of my video clips I made about the double slit experiment that caused Sabine Hassenfelder to make another response video about the double slit experiment. She's had three full-on crashs about the double slit experiment because of one clip I made and I got $3,700 from that. $3,700, the most I've ever gotten paid on any social media platform. So, talk about zero point energy if you want to make money. That's my advice. I'm going to take every single avenue the CIA used to brainwash us away from zero point energy, to brainwash us away from free energy and the truth. and I'm going to flip it right back on them. Make it profitable to tell the truth. Let's do that. Let's stop making it profitable to lie. Let's start making it profitable to tell the truth. That sounds like a good plan. Let's teach people again. So, we're going to talk a little physics tonight, but we're going to save a lot of that for Wednesday. There are several things I want to take a look at with you, though. And one of them was when I was digging into McDonald Douglas, my first thought was UAP Gerb. I thought UAP Gerb, wait a minute, this guy has done more research than anybody doing the whole basement dwelling deep dive on the internet. And by the way, I respect his work. I can't get through the video. It's I can't do a 4hour video on, you know, the most monotonous UFO stuff ever, but the the research is legit and it's there and I respect the hell out of it. But I dug into it and I asked AI, has he brought up McDonald Douglas in reference to this legacy program? Because I've got two guys here. Robert Wood, who he did say is is definitely was involved in this and he pra he praised him when he died. He said such a huge loss. It was shout out to UAP Gerb by the way. And this is actually I shouldn't I shouldn't even hate on him. I was hating on him before. seems like a good guy and he said nice things about this engineer who is definitely a black project engineer. You guys are going to find out tonight. Definitely. But when I cross referenced McDonald Douglas, nothing came up. I thought that's impossible. McDonald Douglas, which was purchased by Boeing in in 1997, has to be connected to this. It was essentially one of the two big a original aerospace companies with Loheed Martin. They've all merged and uh conglomerated together uh at this point, but you get the idea. So what you know what the AI told me which was interesting. It's not that it said [clears throat] that UAP GERB hadn't spoken about it. It's that one person had directly connected McDonald Douglas to the legacy program. Who do you guys think that person is? It's Lou Alzando. Chat. Louando. [clears throat] By the way, I'm rocking on my VPU2 uh gear. [sighs] Let's make it grifty to tell the truth again, chat. This is honestly the flyest gear I've ever seen. Not even going to lie. I love it. I I love it because I love teleporting things and this guy's got lightning bolts. Clearly, he's teleporting things with these lightning bolts. I mean, that's just what this is going on here. Just, you know, when you see a cat, it's just a cat. You know, Lou Alzando. So, first clip of the night. Let's get to it. Let's get to the content. The Danny Shehan was Lou Alzando's lawyer. story about the fact that the United States Pentagon had a special unit, a secret unit that was investigating UFOs. This was Luis Alzando uh and Christopher Melon. He was one of the ones that brought these videos to the New York Times along with Lou Alzando who was the chief of security for the above top secret, you know, military operation in the Pentagon. >> What? Okay. Hey, Lu Alzando, you better go [ __ ] ring up uh what is it? Uh Chris Como. Go ring up [ __ ] Chris Ko and go get on and explain why in the hell Danny Shehan said that you were the security for the above top secret UFO coverup. I'd really like to get a answer from Lu Alzando on this one. Anyone else interested in understanding why it is that Danny Shehan just straight up outs him right here? That's his lawyer, dog. That's not some random person on the street. So, he's been directly implicated by multiple people, including Ross Khart, which felt like it almost was like a breakup when Ross Kohart was outing him. He's like, "Ah, sorry. I have to I have to turn on you. You know the business, Lu Alzando." This is This is like how Ross Kohart trying to tell Lu Alzando that he has to go and out him as being part of the deep state cover up. Yeah, sorry. You got to go ahead and tell the truth and then he never comes out and denies it. He does a whole thing with Chris Ko doesn't deny it. Now Danny Shehan, let's just hear that again. For the who was the chief of security for the above top secret, you know, military operation in the Pentagon. the above top secret military operation in the Pentagon. Okay, I am watching military videos of a plane being teleported out of the sky in a covert operation unambiguously. It's a covert operation and you were the security guy for the top person, the top security guy for the secret program in the Pentagon. That's a what we call a onetoone match. That's a a perfect match on the VFX chat. More than just one uh one edge, too. [laughter] This is a I think we got a direct stock asset match here, chat. This is definitely Lou Alzando, the spook behind all this [ __ ] And so, here's one more thing I want to say. This is just from the heart. from the heart here. CIA and Lu Alzando personally, it's not that I hate you for being a terrible person, which obviously you are. Obviously, you don't get to come out. You don't get to come out after 80 years of lying and be like, "Ah, sorry. Sorry. We didn't Oh, did we hide free energy from you? Oh, it was for your own good, though." Oh, sorry. That's not how this plays out in any reality. So, I hope you didn't think that's what how it was going to play out. I really, if you were that naive, I'm sorry. No chance. You're still lying right now about the videos that you got caught dead to rights on. You got caught dead to rights teleporting that MH370 airplane. and you're still not telling the truth about it. So, no one should believe anything you're trying to tell me about the space aliens from the other dimensions and the other planets and other demons or ghosts or whatever other fake [ __ ] you're trying to griff people off of. I don't care. Go ahead and griff them. That's fine. But shut the [ __ ] up about aliens until you tell the truth about that plane. Okay? Cuz a you're caught dead to rights. You got some secret ass technology from aliens or other dimensions or uh whatever ancient ancient civilizations doesn't matter. Don't care. I don't even care if you're griing people off this Skinwalker Ranch stuff. People finding portals in Skinwalker Ranch, guys. I'm sorry. I even respect Brandon Fugal, but he clearly has to know this is all just a giant scam for Rubes who really just want to believe, right? Like there's no actual portals. Skinwalker Ranch. There's no like dino dino smoking lizard men or whatever you guys like honestly. And the crazy part is you got Eric Davis and Jay Stratton, people who are probably good buddies with Lu Alzando, politically aligned with him and the people covering this up. Politically aligned with all of them and they're going to Skinwalker Ranch and pretending like portals and [ __ ] and all this other fake stuff. Eric Davis was pretending like demons haunting people was real. He was just pretending like it was real on an open podcast. And then you ask him, "Well, hey, what about those military videos?" Like, there's no there's no military there's no military videos that are real. Uh no military videos that anybody has acknowledged legally that are personally have been uh signed off on and notorized. You're like, "What the [ __ ] dude? Wait, you were just at Skinwalker Ranch claiming that Jay Stratton was haunted by a demon, but you won't even comment on two military videos that are showing the physics that you have multiple papers elaborating on that are for the Air Force. Sorry, how does this end? capturing UFOs and trying to reverse engineer them for >> they're trying to re So if he tries to say anything about the context here, the context is they're trying to reverse engineer them. They're trying to reverse engineer the alien UFOs. Ultimately, a lot of people are going to try to tell you some [ __ ] to make it more palatable, but that's what they're trying to sell you on. Okay? If they're doing that, I don't really care. I personally think it's more likely it just came from Tesla. And I think that the alien stuff is the perfect cover up for it. Why? Well, because Bill Cooper was right. We should be listening to the people who were in the military exposed to this technology that came to their own conclusions. It doesn't mean they're necessarily right, but we should be listening to them and then helping us make our own opinions on the situation. Listen to this. >> I don't think there are any. At one time, I thought that there were simply based upon documents that I'd seen while I was attached to the intelligence briefing team, the commander-in-chief of the Pacific Fleet. At that time, uh, and even for many years afterwards, I did not believe that the government would use me in that way. I had devoted my whole life to government service. I had been in the Air Force. I was in the Navy. I was a river patrol boat captain. in Vietnam. I had uh I had proved myself. I had combat ribbons with the V for valor. Um there was no doubt of my loyalty to my country. And maybe that's why it was so easy to use me because I wouldn't doubt that what I saw was real. But over the years, I've done a lot of research. What I've discovered is there's no proof existing anywhere that extraterrestrials are real or that have ever visited this planet uh or that they exist anywhere in the universe. There is not one shred of evidence anywhere. There is lots of evidence, tons of it. In fact, that there are a group of people collectively known as the Illuminati who want us to believe in some extraterrestrial threat from space so that they can cause a world government, you know, bringing together of all the people to resist that external threat. It's a scam. That's that's what I can tell you. what they call UFOs. These crafts that fly around the sky are real, but they're not piloted by some little green guy from some other planet. They're owned and operated by the United States of America for one, the Soviet Union for another. Uh probably Great Britain, Canada. I think the uh >> So, you get the point. Bill Cooper's exposed to the technology. He originally thinks aliens are probably real, but then he starts to learn actually it makes more sense that aliens aren't real at all and that we've been using this alien topic, this idea of aliens to cover up for technology we've developed and been using covertly in the military in operations that not a lot of people are privy to it with compartmentalization equivalent to the Manhattan project. Yes, that dark, that deep. And that's also why it's very important I need to shout out the general, General McCasslin, who's been missing for like what 145 days. You know what? I don't His wife's not even posting about him as much as I am, chat. This man's wife isn't even posting about him as much as I'm posting about him. And ZPE Disclosure, shout out to ZPE Disclosure. Where is General McCassland? Cuz again, we found they messed up. We found a guy that knows everything. Here he is. And he suddenly vanishes mysteriously. And the government's pretending like they don't know where he is. If this dude's like getting his head cut off in Iran or something right now, that would be the craziest thing and probably the worst because they would be taking information from him. So, are we not trying to find this guy? It's just not a priority. It's important that we highlight the things that nobody else talks about because these are the people and the ways that they're hiding this. It turns out it is leaking all the time. The truth is leaking all the time. No one's listening. They're listening to the wrong signals. They need to be focused on the signal called the truth. And the CIA is very good at weaving the truth between the lies. They did this exactly with the MH370 videos. Contrary to Candace Owens, I don't run away from my critics and the people that say that the videos are fake. I confront them directly because I know the videos are 100% real. 100%. There's no VFX added to them. No, I'm sorry. You got tricked. You didn't think the CIA was going to have contingency plans in case their super secret super duper secret operation leaked on the internet. You didn't think they would plant a couple cloud photos that they just used their AI that they've had for probably 30 years before us to make. They just took some real cloud photos and mixed and used AI to make some fake ones and boom, that was it. Probably took 30 seconds. put it on the internet and said, "Hey, have somebody find these cloud photos if these videos ever leak." That's a real thing that they did. You say, "Ashen, how can you believe that?" Cuz I know that's what they did. Because that's the only plausible explanation for how photos from a military operation are on some website 6 months after the videos get on the internet. It's the only It's the only explanation. And it's important because this shows what they're willing to do to cover up the truth. Do they kill people for this? 100%. Do they kill people? Are you kidding me? Do they kill people for this chat? They have a 80-year long decades cover up of super advanced technology connected to the military they're using in covert operations. Uh they disappeared a whole [ __ ] airliner. They made a whole airliner, a Boeing trip 77 disappear with 239 people on board and they made the whole world forget about it. They made the whole world go uh it was probably like some like Muslim Islamic like jihadi pilot. You're like what? You're like has that ever happened before? No. No, because they have like a million screenings to make sure that never happens. But like people just are literally have no plausible explanation. You watch these videos about the plane online. It's the the craziest, dumbest, most implausible [ __ ] that could never happen. And it also requires you to believe that the military wouldn't track a a rogue trip 7. There's a rogue flying plane around and nobody's tracking it. This is why you how you have to use your brain in situations that are highly abnormal. Highly abnormal. And when the evidence appears in the case missing general uh leaked military videos, we have to pounce. [sighs] So pounce we shall chat. Okay. Where's my next thing here? I spoke to Tom Voluone tonight. Tom Voluone is getting locked in. So I'm going to chat with him. We're going to try to chat this weekend. We'll release that next week. I'm not going to do it live. I just got too much live content coming up, guys. Also chatting with Salvatore Py, Dave Rossi, and uh oh crap, I just Oh, he's going to kill me for this. Uh I don't know. I I'll put a link to the podcast out there. I don't have it off top of my head right now. Uh I don't know if I actually got it, but we're going to have a like a four-way chat on uh one of our buddies podcasts. That's a good f buddy of Dave and I's. So, uh, take a look at that on Sunday, guys, at 3:33 Salvador Pais's time. Okay, Sunday. And one more quick announcement. I locked in Salvador Pais for August 9th at 3:30 as well, Eastern time. So, there's going to be a bunch of those podcasts coming up. Uh, and I also am going to get back and get in touch with uh Dan Winter because I I want to get in touch with him. And I haven't told this guy yet, but I want to reach out to uh Gabe um uh Gabe Diaz because I think he's a upcoming zero point energy physicist and I want to give him a platform so that he can boost himself to the next level or you know, whatever happens. I don't control his fate, but you get the point. Okay, sweet. You guys ready for more clips? I'm going to start lightening it up now. I had to get that [ __ ] out of the way, chat, because I feel like I almost died this weekend. And when I say that, you should know that I actually mean it. I mean it into terms of my body was so weak it was hard for me to get up for a little bit. And what I realized wasn't that I was going to die right at that moment, but I realized that I'm actually getting older and even normal viruses and and just general un un not being perfectly healthy can have a huge impact on my body and I have to I have to make sure that I'm giving myself enough time to be healthy in my life. So, it was a turning point for me mentally and one in which I realized my priorities and I wanted to make sure that I set all the things that I wanted to say because I don't have any regrets, but there's a lot of stuff that needs to happen in this world and it's probably not going to happen in my lifetime, but I hope it happens in yours and I hope it happens in your children's lifetimes and I hope it happens much faster than these [ __ ] want it to happen. These people wanted to wait have us wait around for a thousand years for this technology. They weren't even they weren't even close to revealing this. For anyone who's in the UFO community, they weren't even never going to reveal the teleportation. This this has to be forced out against their will. That's the only way it's being revealed. That's how bad the situation is. even Jeremy Corbel. Now, now I could have said I could have come down on Jeremy Corbel and said, "I said this before you," which is 100% true. I don't think there's anything Jeremy Corbell has said about UFOs is true that he said that he said before me, like in anything in the whole world pretty much. But that's not what the point here. And the point is also not that Jeremy Corbel is a complete theater kid grifter, which he definitely definitely definitely is. The point is, he got one thing right on a 4-hour podcast. So, let's listen. >> UFOs are considered higher security than weapons of mass destruction. And you have to ask yourself why. And I'm not saying that frivolously. Ask George Knap. We have been in official meetings where we have met people where their job is weapons of mass destruction related to UAP. We were taken back. We're like, well, we've always heard that. >> This is why DOE is involved, >> right? We always heard that, you know, why is that? And it's the propulsion systems themselves. If they can create so much energy to do what we think they're doing, what they appear to be doing, instantaneous acceleration, possibly folding or warping, >> time space itself, the amount of energy needed to do that is so astronomical that is fundamentally a weapon. UFOs are >> There's your answer. You guys may like Jeremy Corbell or hate him. I personally just think he's terrible as a person. Uh, and I've actually met him, too. And I just he's exactly like he comes across in interviews in real life, which is just incredible to me because most times you feel like, "Oh, you're a completely different person in real life. I didn't think you'd be like this." But no, he's exactly that way. But he's right. This is higher secrecy than nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons. And it's so important that everybody understands this. We're not talking about this is top secret. Oh, no. No. This is top secret compartmentalized. Oh, no. This is unacnowledged special access. It means there's a list and there's only like eight people on the list and those are the only people that know this project exists. And even the people that are building the components, they don't even know. And those people on that list, it's not like the president. It's like some director at Loheed Martin, some director at some program manager at Boeing. That's who's on that list. Think about that. Think about how [ __ ] up that is. And these secrets, this technology is so dangerous, so powerful, so unrelenting, and it's want. It's like the one ring me. One ring, my my precious that everybody wants it. And if anybody wants it, they be tempted by it immediately. That's how crazy powerful it is. And so, of course, they'll do basically anything to cover this up. Hence the problem. Now, we're going to find out. I've said I've claimed pretty directly, I think directly, multiple times actually, that Hal Pudof and Eric W. Davis who are physicists, engineers, authors of the DURDS, the defense intelligence reference documents. They are the legacy program. They were the engineers working on it on the inside. How is that not just obvious to people? Who who else do you think it is? You think they No, they were just investigating the legacy program, chat. They were just investigating it. That's the easiest lie of them all. No, we're not the legacy program. We were investigating the legacy program. We were just writing the scientific papers about how the aliens work, but we're not the actual program reverse engineering it. No. What? I mean, come on. Are I feel like is this not obvious to people? Okay. Well, I tried. We're going to find out if they are actual whistleblowers who are trying to reveal the truth or if they're actually just people who are part of the legacy program. How are we going to find that out? This is how we got a nice little surprise chat. President Trump, this is real, by the way. This is 100% real. President Trump made it so that anyone with a UFO related NDA can now freely speak to the government officials about what they know. This means Arrow, the people that are pretending to investigate UFOs and the UAP luring caucus. I don't know if that it doesn't matter what they call themselves. You guys get the point. those pretend academics that they put to figure out the physics of how the how the aliens fly around. These people can at least go to them now and be like, "Hey, yeah, we teleported a plane away." So, is Eric Davis lining up to go say what he knows? Is Hal Pudof lining up to go tell these guys the truth? Because if he's for disclosure, the guard rails just came off. Everything you need was just re was just taken away. You're h you can do it now. You can't be retaliated against anymore. What do you guys think? What are the odds? What are the odds that those guys go? So, let me just read this. President Trump recently directed the Department of War and the intelligence community to allow former government employees or contractors that have relevant information about the disclosure of UAP to come forward to meet with designated government representatives. Arrow or the president's UAP task force pursue. I guess that's the luring council. Is that what they're calling themselves now? Pursue. Whatever. I They should just go with obsverse. And all of their prior NDAs abregated or basically Yeah, basically your previous NDAs no longer matter. There's no chance those guys are going to go talk. 0% chance. Even Eric Davis said he was going to go talk. But you know what else is true about Eric Davis? He's a liar. He's a liar. Eric Davis is gonna cover up this technology forever. I don't believe Eric Davis is ever gonna tell the truth. Why? Because he's got TDS. Number one. For sure. For sure. I've seen his LinkedIn post chat. He's got TDS. And number two, because when you're in these programs, you're going to learn something tonight. I'm spoiling for you right now. spoilers for the interview we're about to watch in a few minutes. You become in a brotherhood. These guys are in a brotherhood when they work on this secret technology. When they get in that room where they can finally speak freely, they're in a secret [ __ ] club. These special access programs are a little secret club. And if you're on that bigot list, you're one of the eight dudes on that bigot list, the program manager, the two engineers, the [ __ ] president, and you're like, "Holy shit." You're like, "I'm in a secret program with the president and these two engineers, and we're about to make some UFO [ __ ] We're about to make some alien type [ __ ] over here." Uh, yeah. You're in a brotherhood, bro. That's the kind of brotherhood you go to. You go to your grave over, right? So that's what you need to realize is going on in terms of how this is being how is this being kept secret because you get [ __ ] anointed by God essentially. I mean I'm not trying to be blasphemous. You get the point. You get picked up from the doldrums and suddenly now you're part of one of the elite. You're part of one of the people in the know. You don't want to reveal this. The only reason you're even thinking about revealing it is because you're like, "Oh, it's free energy." You're like, "Uh, I mean, it's free energy for the world forever, but I just became a billionaire overnight and now I'm a famous person and before I was just like living in a trailer." Do you get it? That's why. Hopefully, you're you're picking it up. Yeah. Only if you want to know what's secret, chat, everybody's a shallow child. Everybody pretends to be good and righteous until the moment they get picked up to be the billionaire and all they have to do is not tell people about free energy and then they tell you and they even make you feel righteous about it. They even make you feel righteous about it. They tell you you're doing the right thing. They say you get to be a billionaire. You get to own this company called Palunteer that we're going to make a into a billionaire company. You get to own that and you're a good person. You're stopping the end of the world. This technology is the end of the world. Somebody's going to blow us up. The Iranians are going to blow us up with this technology. And by hiding it, you're actually doing a good thing. So, you're actually a good person. That's what they tell you, chat. And if you're Peter Teal or one of the other people that knows about this and you've had that conversation, I want you to know they were [ __ ] lying to you and you ate it up because you wanted to believe it. You wanted it to be true. You knew deep down you were just a piece of [ __ ] taking advantage of people chat. I'm really just This is uh caret you know. I feel good about this. [snorts] Um, don't worry about the Red Bulls. I'm definitely not pounding those. Oh, want to play this other video real quick. Tom Voluone, >> these are ready that the craft is spinning. It's up close. It looks like an amateur video. And right about now, you're going to see a very fast acceleration. The important part is that this introduces a concept and that is inertial mass and gravitational mass are totally different. Einstein made a mistake years ago and called it the equivalence principle. We studied it even in grad school. It's a fascinating to me that it's sort of overlooked. And the important part is that inertia has been discovered to be a zero point field force. >> That background noise is killing me. This is like that Tik Tok background noise chat. Might have to AI that out. Uh, I was literally just talking to this guy. I was just talking to this guy on the phone less than one hour before this live stream. We were chatting for a while. Basically polar opposite of me. Love him. But here he goes. He's just like casually telling Congress. I think this is Stephen Greer's national press conference. He's just casually like, "Hey man, turns out these guys like already figured it out. I This guy has done more research on the science than anybody in the world." I told him this over the phone like probably five times. He probably wants me to stop telling him this. I got all He sent me all his books cuz he was so impressed that I liked his stuff and I've been trying to get through them, but it's incredible how much content he has. But you go, hey, he's like, hey, it's just right here. It's just like it's just a Lorent force. This is just a simple way of saying this is just an electromagnetic effect. Just an electromagnetic effect in spaceime because spacetime is not empty. It's electromagnetic and we can actually achieve these energy densities that you're thinking are impossible. It's actually not beyond the realm of human techn uh uh ingenuity. And more importantly, most importantly, by the way, for the books, just go to Adventures Unlimited. Go to their publisher, Adventures Unlimited, and you can get the books. People are probably getting ripped off buying them for like three times the price cuz I'm getting them sold out everywhere. go straight to the publisher. Anyway, you definitely won't get ripped off there. Lulu's chilling in the back, guys. Chill out. There's also some bad news about Lulu. I think she might be having a kidney disease situation. I didn't want to bring it up because I don't want any heartbreaking news on here, but for now, she's fine. I'm going to be getting her tested and we're going to do whatever treatments we got to do to help prolong her life. Um, you know, it's it is what it is. I don't want to get cross that bridge until we have to cross that. So, okay, let's go back to this though. Boy, that's going to hurt the vibes, chat. Okay. >> By honing off, this is a seminal paint. >> Did you notice the name he said there? H Ruda and Pudof. These guys already figured out 0. Do you want to guess at who the who the black project engineers are, guys? Any guesses? Maybe it's the guys who wrote the papers on how to manipulate spaceime. Maybe the guys that wrote the papers on how to manipulate spacetime are the ones. So, here's another clip. I just made this one earlier today for you guys. This was Max. I'm just going to call him Max Derek because I don't know how to say his last name. Max Derek, professor or physicist Max Derk, saying something pretty familiar to Jesse Michaels. Now, I'm pretty sure I'm just black ballalled from Jesse Michaels due to well, probably a lot of different reasons, but number one, I'm guessing it's Eric Weinstein, which you know what? Don't give a [ __ ] He's way wrong about everything. But you know what? He can do his own thing. Doesn't matter to me at all. I just am going to have to comment on how there's a lot of content overlap which yeah I guess that's my goal so I can't complain here you go >> talk about your your physics theory because you know I find that to be fascinating >> uh you know there are very few people who are kind of you know coming from the hard-headed physics world >> uh who try to explain UFOs or who are even open to UFOs so what is your physics theory if you were to describe it at a at a high level for uh not technical but interested in the substance audience >> dude like sorry Jesse this isn't personal buddy but you didn't return I don't know last few tweet uh messages and I'm not sure where we stand anyway so hey dude uh like what's your physics theory bro you have any novel physics theories nobody's ever heard of uh what what is it out there huh g give us your your best physics theory for how the UFO UFOs are flying around. Guesses in the chat, guys. Guys, put your guesses in the chat. Let's see who we can get here. So, how do you think the UFOs are flying around when uh what was that dumb guy's name? Uh Mike Adams, Mike Andrews, I don't know. Some alien guy that went on the Y files. Uh Mike Barah, whatever. You get the point. Mike Bar, he gets asked how the aliens are flying around. He says Thomas Townson Brown effect. and he proclaims to be the expert at aliens. I mean, I'm pretty sure he's just saying it tongue and cheek, but so let's see if we can do better. Here we go. The best broad explanation that I can see as out there from physics as we know it is that UFOs understood as extraterrestrially engineered craft of some kind. They are out with it. Out with it, Junior. This is uh this is the longest buildup ever. Also, is he he seems like really uncomfortable here. Like I'm I'm kind of worried here. Is he afraid? Is somebody like threatening him if he says this here? Look at how uncomfortable he is. Engineered craft of some kind. they are um doing something called space-time metric engineering or essentially engineering the um structure of spaceime. I understand now that this is unclassified and it's public record but as we all know that's sometimes difficult for the public to get a hold of a report defense intelligence uh reference documents advanced space propulsion based on vacuum space-time metric engineering some light reading for some of our members those guys that came to my house um they they talked about that and how these [clears throat] something could travel at these light years and and um one of them was an astrophysicist and and I don't really understand astrophysics but um so you got something vibrating over here and then instantly it's over here right >> and that that's sort of the way they explained it put it on my level to understand it >> and this particular object called the metric which is the central object of Einstein's theory of gravity known as general relativity the Einsteinian description of gravity and spacetime um essentially they're they're probably setting up a type of a metric called a warp drive metric. It's a particular kind that uh I mean the most well-known version it's was due to this guy Al Kubir. Essentially it can um it's a spaceime that involves the contraction of space in front of an object and the expansion of space behind the object. Uh [snorts] uh. Okay. That's kind of kind of on the nose, bro. I guess you just didn't want to come to the champ. Okay. You wanted to go talk to some fifth rate stringer, right? We had to go get uh we had to get Toby in. Guys, it was we were in We were in uh garbage time. We had to get Toby in. We had to get the sixthrounder in chat. can't go talk to Ashton Forbes, the guy who has literally been explaining this in great detail, explaining how Hal Pudof's, the one that was nominated for the Nobel Prize for space-time metric engineering, how the Defense Intelligence reference documents, the one that Timberchet held up in his hand, [laughter] chat, the one that Timberette held up in his hand [laughter] is right here in the back of this book [gasps] is right here. Right here. I'm staring at it in my face right now. Yeah. Says author Hal Pudof, PhD, Earth Techch International, 11855 Research Boulevard, Austin, Texas. And I don't mean to say his name. I'm not trying to threaten him or anything. Just public knowledge. In fact, don't harm. Nobody. Nobody should physically harm any of these people. I want them to die a of pure shame. Number one. If they died of shame, a there's no way to legally tie it back to me. I mean, unless I'm in the UK, they'll definitely throw me in prison. But in America, in America, if you die of shame, you were just weak. You were just weak. And we called the herd. We called the herd, chat. So, these guys figured it out. And here you go. This guy, this physicist randomly just like, "Yeah, that's how they're working. That's how the UFOs are flying around." This is also what David Frroning himself said. We got David Froining himself saying he likes Hal Pudas model. Where is it? Oh, one sec, David. Here it is. >> I was always kind of impressed by how put offs work where where he's where by by what by use by by using what he calls a polarizable vacuum, he can kind of get a lot of the same results you get by actually uh by actually going through very complicated space warping. >> Space warping. Hal Pudof's model. Yet again, >> I was always kind of impressed by how put offs work where >> how guys, where do you think David Froing worked? Uhoh. Uh oh, chat, I forgot to mention somebody on the title. He also worked at McDonald Douglas. David Froin also worked at McDonald Douglas. the McDonald Douglas Lu Alzando said was part of the coverup. And Lu Alzando should know. He was part of the cover up, too. So he would know. It makes sense. Why did you let me see those videos, CIA? Why don't you just delete them from the internet? Why don't you tell me that? That's a Can I Everybody askked me the questions like, "Where'd the plane go? How' they teleport that?" You can't do that. And zero plant energy isn't real. Here's my questions. Why did you let me see that video in 2023? Just delete it from the [ __ ] internet. You can make planes disappear. You can't delete a video from the internet archive. You should have deleted it harder. I can't believe there's some [ __ ] videos exposing our teleportation technology on the internet and you're just letting them sit there. You're just letting them sit there. Whose decision was that? Fire that person into the sun. I'm a little triggered, chat. Not gonna lie to you. Okay. Uh where is the next thing? Almost all them. Let's get to the polices thing. So I went through the disclosure archives for serious Stephen Greer and he has interviews with both Paul's which we've already watched. We may end up watching it again at some point but we watched it like a year two years ago his interview on live stream. And he also had one with Bob Wood who had been highly praised, had worked with D with uh Paul Sizz, probably worked with David Froin as well. And I wanted to find the interviews with them and talk about their content and their work. But before we do that, I wanted to go once again and highlight Paul Sizz. Here's one of Paul Sizz's interviews with Tim Ventura. We're not going to watch this whole thing, just a couple minutes of it, but just listen to the beginning of this. >> Well, the uh rumor mill is probably uh it's more than a rumor mill. Uh even when I started at Wright Patterson in 58 when split went up, we all got uh reassigned and I got reassigned to a high temperature hypersonic wind tunnel and I was working with the people in the flight dynamics lab and um Melbuck was one of the fellas in charge of the aircraft side and Dick Newman and El Draper were on the hypersonic lighter side we call spacecraft today. And when I I left in 60 63 and went to work for McDonald Douglas, one of the first things I got involved in was their hypersonic impulse tunnel and we were doing some Mach 12 testing of one of the vehicles that I was working on at Right Field. >> Okay, this is one minute into the interview. You can't tell this guy is clearly one of the most connected engineers in the world. Like listen to what he's saying. Oh, I was at Wright Patterson and then I left and I went to the number one upcoming upand cominging defense contractor that ends up in becoming Boeing ends up becoming absorbed by Boeing, Macdonald Douglas. And he was with them from 67, which is when they were founded, the the year after they were founded, he's with them for 40 years. 40 years. Think about this. This is the kind of people you trust with your secrets that you are like destroy your family if they come out. If the secrets this dude knows come out, your whole family is destroyed. That's who you trust with this. I only have to fast forward 30 minutes and he's talking about fusion reactors. This interview Paul Sizz died in like when did he die? I thought he died in like 2013. Anyway, he's been dead for a while, at least a few years minimum. That well before I ever found out about him. And here he is talking to Tim Ventur on some old interview about a fusion reactor. Now, you have to think, what kind of black project technology would these guys be working on? I'm going to spoil it for you. It's fusion reactors. That's the conventional side of it. That's the nonspacetime manipulation side. The non sucking up zero point energy. That's still just normal physics, but it's a good propulsion system. It's a good system. If you just need a way to propel yourself around using mass, fusion is a really efficient ISP. It's very efficient for the amount of fuel you have to use compared to conventional rockets. And what this allows for is you don't need to have all the fuel on board anymore. That's what makes it impossible. In fact, he's going to say that right here. So, listen up. >> Well, and and in terms of in terms of really groundbreaking, you know, hardware proposals, one of the things that you brought to the stave conference um was the concept for an autronic fusion reactor married to a hypersonic aircraft. And I I thought that that was just a brilliant idea. I mean just the the output thrust from this so tremendous that that really would be >> well it's not the thrust it's a specific impulse. >> Okay. >> See the problem is >> it's not the thrust it's the specific impulse. This [ __ ] is a the goat. This is the aerospace goat right here. If you needed a slightly autistic, highly organized guy to lead your aerospace company, there was no better option than Paul Sizz. I don't even understand how he wrote this 600page textbook which includes some of these concepts. But if you were learning under him, you were learning under the GOAT. And by the way, I might be his better pupil than you are, even if you learn directly under him. This dude is like a saint to me. Listen closely. >> The problem is time. And the rocket equation is very simple. the change in velocity um is basically the or the the um the logarithm of the weight ratio and the specific impulse and gravities in there. And so if you the if you have a limited weight ratio, you can't put infinity up in orbit, but it has to be a finite number that's probably no larger than 10. That means that the specific impulse to go fast enough to get to these distant places in the lifetime of a human being and back has to be very very very high. The estimates that the Russians have done at the F conference that was held in in uh in Braymond a couple years back estimated that you'll need an ISPO on the order of 20,000 to 40,000 and if you really want to go far it has to be 100,000. What that means is that one one pound of propellant has to generate um 20 or 30,000 lbs of thrust. >> Well, one pound of propellant has to produce 20 or 30,000 pounds of thrust. Think about that. That's just a simple ratio. One pound of propellant has to produce 30,000. You need insane efficiency, fuel efficiency, if you want to try to go anywhere interstellarly from the distances that we have. Now, I don't that's not even interstellar. I think that's just other planets. If you want to try to go anywhere else, you can't be using rocket propulsion. There was no way the math was ever going to work. This is why they were looking at fusion propulsion. So, even if you don't believe in aliens or UFOs or any of that other stuff, realize these black project engineers were considering the math and the best possible fuel sources and and aerospace concepts for whatever the problem was. And in this case, the problem is interstellar travel. So, you say, how could people figure this out? Because these guys were smart as [ __ ] If this was my teacher, I would have shaved my head and become a Buddhist monk. Devoted my life to zero point energy. I become the one avatar. Chat, the zero point energy bender. Is there a magneto bender? [ __ ] I'll be that [ __ ] that I know that even comes close to that is the engine that's over in Italy that Professor Rubia patented and has a Nobel Prize award for. >> I don't even know who he's talking about here right here, but you guys should probably Google him or something. Whoever he's saying is a Nobel Prize winner who's got some secret thing that's probably some spooky [ __ ] >> Oh, okay. >> And and the reason we look Dave Froing and I look at the the the autoronic engine is because there's no external radiation. And if you want to build a vehicle that is a tug that goes between the Earth and Moon and the Earth and Mars that you can attach uh it's just it's just a round robin tug and you hop on board when you're at Mars and come back to Earth or you hop on at Earth and go to Mars or the moon. Then you want a vehicle that has no external harmful radiation. >> Well, and that's that's the animatronic one. >> Now for the >> my dude just drops a When was this interview? We confirmed he died in 2013 sadly. So a neutronic fusion, he's talking about the hardest fusion there is. He doesn't bring up the fact that this is considered impossible. He forgot to mention this is like considered impossible. Now we're talking some alien type [ __ ] You wanted some alien type [ __ ] You wanted the alien physics. Here it is. Impossible fusion. Order for three. I'll take I'll take seven of those. You those exist? I didn't know. >> In neutronic design, what would the flight time be to to the moon, do you think? >> Oh, on a on a round trip on a roundroin trip, you're probably the Apollo astronauts took 72 hours. And since you don't have to >> So, I don't really believe these numbers because we're not even talking about manipulating spaceime. The crazy part is here, he's just talking about using normal fusion propulsion to go to Mars. 6 months we can make that happen. It's actually more of an issue of the orbits than anything else. And he explains that the orbit of Mars is twice takes twice as long as Earth. So we're not aligned and close to each other except for every couple years. So it's difficult to pull off the math. But the thing I wanted you to listen to is this somewhere around here. I don't want to go too too far because I don't think we can understate how important Paul Sizz was. This guy is really unknown. When I found this guy, I found a dude I had never heard of. I had didn't see almost anybody talk about except for on some really obscure forums and maybe in some Reddit threads that have like 10 up votes on them. And this guy was connected to everybody. I don't think you're gonna believe the names that are about to get dropped right here. >> Technical uh what is it? Technology availability date is. I wonder what they would say, you know, way back in this time or over here, this guy did this and this and if we just were to change this parameter a little bit, it would probably work in our case. People don't think like that anymore. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, you know what? I want to listen to that because [clears throat] he tells a good story. Um, what was it? Okay. Well, oh, yeah. Okay, here it is. >> Tier 2 plus. He lost it to >> So, this I think this is the um I got to work about 90 93. I got to work with Abe Kum on a project called Tier 2 Plus. He lost it to Fairchild, but anyway, >> this is it. >> He had seven of the original um skunk works guys that worked with Kelly Johnson on the SR71 working with him. And I have never met a group of aerospace engineers or aeronautical engineers like that group of people. Um, the mole for >> Okay, Paul Sizz just says he worked with the people that built the SR71 Blackbird at the Lockheed Martin skunk works. I think I don't I didn't really read the whole book, but The Skunk Works book by Ben Rich has some information uh connected to Kelly, uh Kelly Johnson, who is the people that built this whole organization within Lockheed Martin. and their whole objective was to be able to do things for the CIA and military to pull together these resources and get them to come together and build things rapidly in secret. So why is this important? Because if you're looking for a rat, if you're looking for where there's a secret black project and we already know some of the people, it's probably where everybody's suspecting the skunk works. And before anybody, don't you dare come to my replies and my comments and tell me I worked at the skunk works and there's nothing secret there. That's like the people at Diego Garcia going, "I was at Diego Garcia and there's nothing secret going on there. You're crazy. You're crazy for thinking a secret military base has secrets at it." They have to lie. They literally have to lie. And some of them [ __ ] enjoy it. They enjoy knowing and knowing that you don't know. And they enjoy gaslighting you and telling you, "No, there's nothing there. We don't do anything crazy. I've never done anything spooky. They love that [ __ ] That's why it's so hard to get the truth out because you have people with good intentions mixed up with people with medium intentions mixed up with people with bad intentions. Sorry, I'm going to let you finish this >> is gone of people who who don't say, "Gee, I wonder what the uh techn technical uh what is it? technology availability date is. I wonder what they would say, you know, way back in this time or over here, this guy did this and this and if we just were to change this parameter a little bit, it would probably work in our case. People don't think like that anymore. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Uh they were problem solvers. Um when you actually tell people some of the experience that was on the SR71 in today's environment, the SR would be cancelled. >> Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. Well, for example, I I got to work with Kelly on a government contract for about seven years. He was my contract monitor. >> Okay. >> He and Ben Rich, [clears throat] and he said >> uh uh he was my what? Contract monitor. I'm sorry. I just heard Ben Rich and Kelly Johnson and I lost my [ __ ] What the [ __ ] did did that uh Paul Sis just say right there? He directly worked with Ben Rich and I thought he was just telling a fun story. No, he wasn't even telling a story about how they were great. He's talking about how he worked with them. The guy that said, "We have the technology to take ET home. All points in space and time are connected." Uh yeah, I don't know. How did everybody miss it? I'm not sure because a lot of them were just telling the truth. People don't think like that anymore. >> Yeah. Yeah. Listen to it again. >> They were problem solvers. Um when you'd actually tell people some of the experience it was on the SR71. In today's environment, the SR would be cancelled. >> Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. >> Well, for example, I I got to work with Kelly on a government contract for about seven years. He was my contract monitor. >> Okay. >> He and Ben Rich. And he [clears throat] said when they beta titanium is a different structure from normal alpha titanium and it's very difficult stuff to work with. The first hundred parts he made the forgings he made of beta titanium he got one part out that worked. Three months later out of the hundred parts that he tried he got 94 out that worked. And it wasn't Titanium Company of America or anything that did it. His guy solved the problem. >> Yeah. Yeah. And uh what's incredible is that would never be permitted today. >> You know, it's that he nailed it right there. That is the most profound thing. Maybe second most profound thing that we needed to hear from Paul. [clears throat] He says, "One guy figured it out." >> [clears throat] >> He says that the first time someone tried to make this metal this meta material remind you of anything LK99 a couple years ago there was this room temperature superconductive meta material videos were posted on the internet you could see it just levitating freely without liquid nitrogen on it and people were going whoa that's impossible and so the recipe gets put on the internet everybody starts making it What happens? Most people fail. Most people are are complaining, "I can't make it right. I don't know how to make it. I tried twice and it didn't work. It's it's fake." Everybody says fake and everybody gave up on it. Everybody. That's all it took. It actually only took one scientific paper. One. One person to come out and say, "We were unable to replicate it." And they said, "It's been debunked. These guys tried and failed. Proves it's not real." Paul says is exactly right. He just told a story. One guy had to try to make a meta material. It took him 100 tries to make it right one time. 100 tries to make it right one time. But you know what happened after that? They were able to make it right 75 out of a hundred times because he learned how to make it right. He learned it's not just about the ingredients. It's about how you put it together. We have lost our way as a species and we've given in to the idiocy and ignorance and sanctimonious [ __ ] of people that are stupid that don't contribute to society. People that are lazy unemployable bums that have never worked in their lives and all they do is try to tear people down. We have to stop giving in to their cynicism and skepticism and we have to start demanding evidence and facts. Simple as that. Couple quotes I want to read here. Number one, going back to Lu Alzando, here's the reference for my claim that Lu Alzando himself said that McDonald Douglas is part of the alien program. It's his book. The book that nobody Lu Alzando doesn't even want to talk about his book anymore. Chat, it's amazing. I've never seen someone so disinterested to talk about their own book. Hey, Lu Alzando, come on my show and tell me about your book where you talk about the three orbs of energy spinning around your Reaper drone or whatever. I'd love to talk about that. I got a crazy story for you, bro. I think you're going to love it. I think you're really going to like it. It's right up your alley, man. Crazy. He has no interest anymore. It's like Rick and Morty. They took away They took away his own enthusiasm for his own work, chat. Once it turned out that he was going to be exposed. Oh, what do you mean orbs of energy? I don't even know what you're talking about. I've never even heard of Orbs of Energy book. I didn't not even write a book. Okay, here we go. Senior official. This is Lu Alzando direct quote. Senior officials told me continuously and confidently that big aerospace companies have been a have been a part of the legacy program to retrieve and reverse engineer crash retrievals materials. The big names included Loheed Martin, TRW, Macdonald Douglas, Northrup Grman, Boeing, Rathon, BAE Systems, and the Aerospace Corporation. The Aerospace Corporation is a nonforprofit government contractor that basically just takes engineers like Eric Davis and gives them to Lheed Martin. says, "Hey, you need a slave that will build you some teleportation [ __ ] We got one. We got a little We got one that's got Trump derangement syndrome." He said, "That's that's extra. That's extra in these parts, chat." Um, all of which have been principal members of the US military-industrial complex. I was also told that Monsanto may have been historically involved in biologics. I don't really give a [ __ ] about your biologics, but you get the point on the aerospace thing. Now, the quote from Paul Sizz, where is that one? >> That's actually >> here. I actually have a video of this of Paul Sizz saying it, but I'm gonna say it because I'm gonna I'm gonna do some Wakanda [ __ ] right now. I'm gonna evoke his spirit. I'm gonna do I was watching Avatar chat. I'm gonna do the Avatar. Awa, come to me. Give me the 0 point energy. This is Paul says chat. [clears throat] The black budget world is like trying to describe Casper the friendly ghost. You might see a cartoon of him, but you don't know how big he is. You don't know where his funding comes from. You don't know how many there are because of the compartmentalization and the oath people have to take. I know people today that worked on one of the things I worked on and if you asked them about it, even if it's being discussed on the internet, they would say, "No, I have no idea what you're talking about." They're in their 70s now, but they're still absolutely would never admit that they even know what you're talking about. You have no idea, but it's probably larger than you think. And again, there's a reason for it. You don't want people who would be hostile to you to know what you could do to them if they really caused a major catastrophe. If they knew that, you wouldn't prevent them from doing it. They would just find another way to go about it. Boom. That's from the goat chat. Paul says dropping hot fire. He just laid it out for you. And who do you think he's talking about? They were in their 70s. Uh hm. Hal Pudof who's now in his 90s 12 years later. He's saying Hal Pudof would never talk about this. And if you ever confront him about it, he'll deny it straight to your face. He'll say, "I got no idea what you're talking about." And do you want to know my favorite part about this? About why I just evoked Paul's spirit chat. We are the angel of [ __ ] death. And of course, I don't mean that literally. I do not mean that literally. I just mean die of shame, of course. But we are the angel of death chat. [laughter] And these guys, they almost certainly Hal Pudof, Eric Davis, we might not just found a Whopper, chat. We might have found the secret [ __ ] fish. The secret fish there's only one of in the lake, chat. We might have pulled in the big kahuna here. These guys might actually have been the ones that built the orbs that they used on MH370. And they might have been in the room watching those videos when it happened in real time, completely oblivious to the fact they leaked on the internet later. Why do I say that? How can I make such a crazy claim? Number one, they're definitely OGs. They're definitely connected to all the people that made the technology that was used on the plane, and they can't deny it. Why aren't they denying it? Why, when Eric Davis was asked to review the MH370 videos in a super chat, does he say, "Uh, there's no credible videos of MH370 that have been posted on the internet." That's the kind of response. That's a glamour response. That's the kind of response you give when you have to lie and you can't say the truth. Because most people would just say, "I don't know. I don't care. I didn't look at your stupid videos." Or they'll say, "I looked at your videos. I don't and it's a teleportation." Cuz that's what it is. Cuz I learned it from him. I mean, if my mentor isn't going to tell you that it's teleportation, who is? Why isn't Hal Pudof responding, guys? Who do you who how do you think I got ground state of the hydrogen atom two years ago? Hal Pudof passed that through to me through a uh intermediary. So maybe there's still some good in his soul, chat. Maybe Halpine Maybe Halpine still has good in him. I can see the good in him, chat. It's in it's there somewhere in that dark heart. He wanted this to come out. He's trapped by all the legal stuff, too. And he can't tell the truth about being killed and betraying all his friends, betraying all the people he spent his whole life making into billionaires and rich other smug [ __ ] He might be just as trapped as we are. I'm not trying to give him an out here. Just saying. Okay. Let's get to the main event. The main event. Are you ready, chat? The new GOAT, the new kid on the block, Dr. Robert Wood. You can watch this yourself on Dr. Steven Greer's channel. He has by far, simply by far, the best videos with Black Project engineers. I would say his hit rate is like [snorts] like 40%. And that's crazy high. Crazy high. When you're getting hit rates like that, you're wondering, who are you talking to? Somebody's telling you, these are the guys you need to talk to. So, this is Dr. Robert Wood. You're going to realize right away why I love this guy. Why I love this guy immediately. Chat, from a certain perspective, Anakin killing all the Padwans, that was for the betterment of humanity, for the betterment of the Jed for the Sith and the Jedi chat. [laughter] subsequently got a PhD in physics from Cornell and I went right into McDonald Douglas as a young engineer and stayed with McDonald Douglas for 43 years graduating basically through the various management steps and wound up in charge of various aspects of our research and development programs. >> So I got their careers wrong. It was Robert Woods that was 43 years pulses was I don't know 30 something. I'm not sure if their exact numbers are known but you get the point. long ass time >> including the last one was the space station program. So that's my background. [music] He said you know General Shrivever is retiring and now General Shrivever was the guy who invented the ICBM and the Air Force wanted to have a sort of a testimonial event symposium for him and each of the contractors including us got an assignment to predict what the future would hold in the next 10 years. And so our assignment was to talk about going to space and back >> chat. I can there's already something about his swagger. There's something just about his swagger and this little smile he has on his face that I can just tell him this guy has a secret. This guy has a secret and he wants to tell people but he can't. I look CIA if you want to know the source of my power. You want to know where all my secret power comes from? It's like the It's like Goku's soul bomb. I just I suck it in from everywhere else. Give me send lend me your power. That's where I get it. That's how I figure it out. And so I knew my boss was really oriented towards nuclear propulsion. And if I didn't tell him otherwise, he was going to talk about nuclear propulsion. Everybody was tired of hearing about nuclear propulsion. So [snorts] I said, "Well, gee, Ray, why don't you tell him about how the UFOs allegedly do it?" And he said, "That's a great idea. Why don't you work that out?" So I read my first book which was Donald Mensel's book. And after I read that book, I told my wife, I said, "This guy's allegedly a scientist, but he's not talking logically. He's ignoring the data." [snorts] And so I read another book, and pretty soon I'd read oh 50 books. And chat, who was it a few minutes ago? Somebody said, "Nobody reads. You get the gold star today." Mystery commenter, mystery chatter over there. There he is. Robert Wood says, "I first thing I did was read a book. Next thing I know, I had read 50 books. His boss, who do you think his boss was? His boss was Jim Douglas of the McDonald Douglas Corporation. His boss was the boss of the whole company. And at that time, I became interested in subscribing to various journals and met Jim McDonald. Jim >> McDonald, there were two interesting aspects that fell out of this meeting with Jim McDonald. One of them was that he kind of convinced me that I had a story that I could tell to my management since since I concluded that the UFOs were real. One one day when I was driving to work, I said, "Wow, there's no other solution. They're clearly real. They're clearly extraterrestrial and they work somehow." And I think we ought to figure out how they work because I wouldn't want to be the last aerospace company to discover gravity control. I >> Let's recap. I think this is important to understand what's the story being told right here. He says, "I graduate. I get a PhD. I'm an aerospace engineer. And McDonald Douglas wants to hire me right out of school. They want me to join right out of school. And then Jim McDonald, one of the co-founders of the company, comes up to me and says, "You should uh you should read this book here." He's like, "What's that book?" Uh, I think you might find it uh interesting. And the book is about some UFO [ __ ] and next thing he knows he reads 50 books and now he's suddenly really interested in UFOs and he says I want to understand how UFO propulsion works. So one of the guys that spent 43 years at McDonald Douglas which became Boeing which has been directly connected to the legacy program and secret UFO technology. This guy's out here. He's ready to spill the beans chat. He's ready to let his heart out. He wants to sing. He Let the man sing. Let him cook. >> I think we ought to be the first. So, I took a briefing to my management and my management was very sympathetic at that particular time for for some new creative ideas. They didn't have much of a basic research program and I offered a a very modest project to look into this problem. So we did some things like seeing whether we could train change the speed of light by a large axial magnetic field and we uh bro what uh change the speed of light through a large axial magnetic field. Did he just say that? Are we joking right now? Am I in a time warp? I think I might be in a time warp. Is this my dad? Is this my grandfather, chat? Is this my grandfather? Is that what's going on here, chat? I'm in I'm in a video game. This is my grandfather. Or maybe you're all my grandfather. I don't know how this works, but this is definitely a simulation. I don't know care what Sabine Hosenfelder is saying. I don't care what she's saying about double slit experiment because we're full on in the simulation right now. We're experiencing it. axial magnetic field reducing the speed of light. That's polarizable vacuum model. I don't even need to hear more because I'm already one of the world's experts on zero point energy, if not the expert. The only people above me at this point are Hal Pudof and Eric Davis. Just say it again because it just gives me so many happies. It literally brings up my energy level when I hear this how they work because I wouldn't want to be the last aerospace company to discover gravity control. I think we ought to be the first. So I took a briefing to my management and my management was very sympathetic at that particular time for for some new creative ideas. They didn't have much of a basic research program and I offered a a very modest project to look into this problem. So we did some things like seeing whether we could train change the speed of light by a large axial magnetic field and we hired Stan Freedman. He says that [ __ ] so fast. I'm just sitting here going, "Did I hear that?" I still can't believe he actually said that. He just says almost nothing specific related to the physics except for that in this whole video. And that's exactly what we're looking for. The Aaron Hoff bomb effect, the a vector potential, the convenience in the math. They said, "Oh, if you swirl these things around, yeah, it makes some effects, but that's okay. We just call him the Aronoff bomb effect. Then nobody will worry about it." Like, what? It doesn't make any sense. Okay, we'll come back to that >> actually to use the UFO literature as a basis for clues as to what technology might be involved. So that was that was this project was underway and Jim McDonald became aware of the fact that there was a symposium about to happen in Boston that Philip Morrison and Carl Sean were organizing on UFOs. So he apparently planted the seed in Sean's ear and said, you know, there's a group at McDonald who studying UFOs. You might want to give them a call and see if they want to participate. >> Holy [ __ ] dude. Some dude calls up Carl Sean. The Carl Sean tells him, "Hey, bro, you need to hit up the McDonald Douglas bros. They're broing out harder on the UFO thing than you've ever broed out in your life." So, my dude's got the connections to the celebrity scientists and physicists. That's how respected he is. Nobody knows who these guys are in the conventional world because they're not Sabine Hosenfelder and Neil Degross Tyson. [laughter] Like, are you kidding me? These people have more credentials in one of their fingers than those people have. >> Well, I just finished reading Carl Sean's wonderful book, Intelligent Life in the Universe, written in about 1966. It had a tremendous >> This this interview actually just gets more wild as it goes. And I'm having onlogical shock thinking about it. Part of the reason I crashed out so hard on this is this [ __ ] pisses me off so much. This pisses me off so much. I'm so angry that they didn't delete these videos from the internet and made me do this to them. >> Respect for the ideas that I had seen there, which included the serious consideration for extraterrestrial life. And so Carl called one day and introduced himself and I was >> Carl Sean calls you up, introduces himself to you. So he makes the connection and he's like, "Yo, Carl, you got to call them up. They're the defense contract. You're just some internet dude. You're just some physicist on the on the internet." What? I guess this is before the internet, but you get the point. Carl Sean calls him up. The guys, the clip that I play at the beginning of every live stream is Carl Sean's final words about how we become an anti-scientific community in society. That's Carl Sean's final some of his final words. And now Carl Sean was going to our boy right here to beg him to get some help on UFOs. Yeah, we're in some deep spooky [ __ ] now. We're deep in the spooky [ __ ] honored of course because you know he was clearly more outranking than I was in terms of his profession at that time and and uh he said I understand that you might be doing some work and what would you want to talk about if we were asked to give a paper and [snorts] I said well Carl one thing I wouldn't want to do is what everybody else is probably going to do and they would try to prove that they're real. I said it's very clear to anybody who studies at all that they're extraterrestrial and the most important thing is figure out how they work. So, I would give a paper discussing the different avenues that one could explore in order to figure out how they work. And >> oh, dude, I I love him. I love him, chat. Because he says, dude, they're real, man. He's like, look, I read 50 books on the UFOs. It's not fake. I mean, there's something going on. He's like, there's something going on. And it doesn't matter. There's no point arguing over are they real or they not real. He's like, just figure out how they're working. Let's just figure out how they work. That's the simple solution, right? like we can there's enough sightings of them that have the same characteristics. We just figure out those characteristics, figure out how they work, and then we'll just test it. We'll just build this [ __ ] ourselves. See if it works. My goat chat, how sir, how did I not know about your game? Dr. Robert Wood, how did I'm sorry I was not familiar with your game, sir. Please continue. Please keep cooking. It >> was long silence on the phone and you never get the paper. So at at that I did however attend the conference anyway and uh >> so he says so he say so so what is Carl Sean's answer? Nah, not interested. This is like this is Eric Weinstein moment. This was Carl Sean's Eric Weinstein moment. By the way, I'm not a Carl Sean fanboy. He just happened to say the right thing. Carl Sean was also an idiot that didn't realize we were hiding the technology. That's that's just a sad truth. You know, there's going to be a lot of physicists that are going to go to their graves and they were respected in life and they're going to be seen as idiots in death. That's just how science works, chat. Don't blame me. That's how the world's always worked. [clears throat] Carl Sean says, "Not interested. You want to figure out how the UFOs work?" That's not what we're trying to do here. We're trying to [ __ ] aliens. We're trying to [ __ ] us some aliens, chat. We want to get some of those little green butthole aliens. We want to get some of the big booty thick whites and we're going to get some of the ones from the de from that movie with the three titties. We're going to get all of them. That's what we were trying to get. We need scientific papers about that. That's what we want. That's what we want to fight about. And then you wonder why everyone's a a [ __ ] out here trying to figure out how many times did I get abducted by the aliens? Well, because they got you fighting about stupid [ __ ] Like, which aliens are the best instead of, "Hey, how do the aliens fly around?" My goat. And he This smile 100% deserved. Beautiful smile, chat. This is my grandpa, chat. This is my grandpa. I don't even know. I just I can know it's my grandpa. I just know this is my grandpa. I don't know how it's possible, but it's true. I heard everybody else who who was there and realized that at that time I began to ask myself is there some plan to control this process. That was just a sort of a subconscious thought that I had in my mind and I didn't really do much with more with it then. So that's two stories that relate to my career. Now there was there is a third story relating to my career which is much more subtle. It had to do with classified work. The classified program that I was >> Did you see the 180 turn on my man's face? He's like, "No, those are two fun stories, but time to talk about some classified shit." Well, okay, sir. You had my curiosity already, but if you just want to go ahead and tell us, I'm ready to listen. Working on was uh the the code word level. And and it actually code word level. So, now we know this is true. How do I know this is true? Because there's already been multiple people who have confirmed this. Remember that immaculate constipation crap and all the other code word crap they talk about? You can't even say the code words. That's why he can tell you that there are code words, but he can't tell you about the code word of the project. He's being very selective right now about what information he reveals. Watch closely. Had had very simply to do with uh since I was working on our ballistic missile defense program. It's very common for uh intelligence agencies like the CIA to ask contractors who have an expertise in one area to study the enemy's expertise in that same area. And so this program was to study the Soviet ballistic missile defense program. And and that fact I think is actually unclassified. Now the name of the program might be classified in association but but [clears throat] so so there he goes. She says this common for the CIA to go to the defense contractors and have them investigate some aspect of science and see what the the the Soviets are doing on that. Now, why is this relevant? Because it's possible that we just stole this [ __ ] from the Soviets that we weren't even looking at the scalar physics and then the Cold War happens and our CIA finds the the secret hidden physics in the Soviets. So, it's also possible that the Nazis brought it here. There's like a million different possibilities. Once again, I don't care. I'm just telling you this is a plausible option. >> As I became familiar with the the program, it was pretty interesting. As you may know, when you get cleared for one of these classified programs, you wear your special badge and you know, you can talk to anybody who's in the room with a lot of cander and it feels like there's one psychological group and um there's a lot of comarie that builds up, but >> Okay. Okay. We're getting into the real secrets now. Right there, he just laid out some [ __ ] that I haven't been heard anywhere. He said, "I've been in the projects. I've been in the hood. The black projects, chat, no racism intended." He's been in the black projects. Why am I saying it that many times? Does it make it racist? I hope not. Chat, don't cancel me. He's been in the projects. >> [laughter] >> Okay, now it's starting to get racist. He's been in that room with those engineers on that bigot list with those eight guys and there's a camaraderie. There's a camaraderie amongst them and they're working together towards one cohesive unit. They become one psychological unit. I can't look at the chat now. You guys are killing me. Okay, we're gonna listen to him because you're killing me. You're ruining the live stream. builds up. But um one of and they have access to special libraries. So one of the >> and not only do they have the best facilities with the hottest dudes who wear the freshest clothes, but they also have the best libraries. They have the best libraries, too. What this actually means is they have secret libraries of secret physics papers that are not publicly available. Now, normally I would say [ __ ] I would say science can't be hidden like that, but let's be honest, we know that it can and we know that it is. So, yes, they have secret libraries of physics papers that you don't have access to. That's how they work. And because they're defense contractors, you can't even foyer request them. If you foyer request them, they just laugh at you say that's goes for the government, not to us. the things that we could do was to go up to the library at the that the Air Force ran and sort of paw through top secret material. So, since I was interested in UFOs, I had some usual business to take care of. And I'd also kind of look in their library to see what they had on that subject. [snorts] And for for about a year, I was getting quite a few hits on the subject about various reports. And then all of a sudden, the whole subject material vanished. There's the entire classification numerical classification for the subject and it just vanished. >> What? So, he just starts snooping around on the secret. This is like uh this is uh the Da Vinci Code or something going on here. He's just snooping around in the Black Project secret library and he's like, I'm just going to start searching for UFOs. And he starts finding things and they just start removing them. They're like, okay, we got to remove that. Don't let this guy see this anymore. Just just say the dark projects chat. Guys, we're gonna have to watch some black snape later on. Chat, there's nothing racist about black snape because if you can if you can swap races one way, you can swap them anyway, chat. It's not It's actually being inclusive. >> And the the librarian in our group that I was working with said, you know, he'd been in this business for 20 years. He was, you know, he's about 40 years old, but he'd been in that vault for 20 years and knew exactly how things normally were done. And he said, "This is remarkable." He said, 'I've never seen that before. You just don't have a whole subject vanish out from under. He said, 'I think there is something there that you you hit on. He said, uh, you know, you ought to go see the condent committee and tell them what you >> Yeah, this is just a random comment, but the Vatican library, the Vatican probably has a library like this, and it's probably way better than the defense contractor's library. If the defense contractors have libraries of secret physics papers, imagine what the [ __ ] Vatican has. They probably have secret manuscripts laying out plasmoids that nobody's ever seen before. And it' be like the moment we saw that we'd be like, "Holy [ __ ] these people understood fusion." And they're just hit hiding it because they're like, "Oh no, this is our this is our secret precious doing. You got some some good stuff and and you got a good plan." And and so I I did I wrote him a nice little letter and saying that our our company had been looking into the subject of UFOs and did they want to hear what we were doing. And so I got a courteous invitation back from uh from Condan and we prepared a little briefing. >> Wait, wait. Condan. Condan of the Condan Committee. So the Condan Committee. Let's get up to speed here, chat. UFO lore. UFO lore. Quick take Wikipedia time chat. Get your approved narratives here. Get ready. Best source on the internet for approved 100% government approved narratives right here. The Condan Committee was informal name of the University of Colorado UFO Project, a group funded by the Air Force from 1966 and 1968 to study UFOs. So now we can nail down the timeline that he's talking about. He's saying between 1966 and 1968, he was working on UFO technology for McDonald Douglas. He was working on reverse engineering it. And so he writes to the Condan committee to Condan himself actually. And he asks him, he says, "Do you want our information? Do you want our our our information on how it works? So Edward Condan, there he is. Edward Condan of the Condan committee was the one who was tasked with figuring out this is like putting Avi Loe in charge of the UFO luring group. It's like I could send this is like me sending Avi Lobe a letter being like, "Hey Avi, do you want me to explain to you how the physics works? I can do it in crayon if it makes it easier for you to understand. I'll write in big letters, big bold letters for you. Spacetime metric engineering. PS, space is not empty. H love luv ashy. Yes, chat. I have pet names, too. This is like me sending a lobe that letter. So, let's go back to it. So Conan, these were the ones that basically tried to debunk the UFOs, said the shit's not real, there's nothing to it. So we're about to find out what happens when black project engineers that work on UFOs run into Air Force spooks that either deny their existence or are just lying about it. Unstoppable Force is about to meet an immovable object. chat. Let's figure out what happens. Any predictions? Predictions in the chat. Put your predictions in the chat for how McDonald Douglas versus Edward Condan academia versus defense contractors. Do we have any precedent for this? Any academics out there who trying to talk down to defense contractors about how they know physics better than them? Eric [clears throat] Weinstein. that explained how explained how you could take a toidal loop of superconducting material and establish a strong magnetic field in one direction and and then charge it at the same time so it could float in the electrostatic field of the earth. >> Bro, what the [ __ ] did you just say? Did you just say a toidal superconducting electromagnetic field will produce an upward force exactly like the a vector potential would predict? Dog, are we serious right now? Where's my Pulitzer Prize? Where's my Pulitzer Prize here? Look at me, chat. I'm out here dripped out. I'm dripped out politer prize lists revealing black project engineers just telling you how the physics works telling straight up wrote to Edward Condan saying hey bro I can just make a superconducting electromagnetic coil I'm going to make a superconducting electromagnetic coil I'm going to force gravity >> from uh from condant and we prepared a little briefing that explained how explained how you could take a toidal loop of superconducting material and establish a strong magnetic field in one direction and and then charge it at the same time so it could float in the electrostatic field of the earth. And the bottom line that I had was that we were just about a factor of 10 away from having superconducting uh current capacity enough to do this. Now of course >> can you start to see where this is about to go? our team thought well gee only a factor of 10 we're going to be there a couple years lack of interest in in the subject and and quite in the contrast to his group his he called out his group together who sat around and listened to our briefing and uh and then when he said well therefore you can't do it they all looked at him in amazement and said well but it's only a factor of 10 >> Condan's whole group believed they could do it and Condan said no Chad This is actually the UAP luring council before the UAP luring council existed. This is like this actually might literally be me like a clone of me or I'm a clone of this guy. I'm I'm starting to believe chat even. I'm starting to believe and I'm me because otherwise I can't explain this. This is basically me going back and forth with Avi Lobe for the last two years and Avi Lo just being like, negative energy is not real. And I'm like, but Eric Davis is just explaining that we just need a cylindrical parabolic mirror. We can use a a parabolic cylindrical plasma mirror and create our negative energy. Why is no one listening when I'm just saying the words? Okay, I said it a few times. And so I became friendly with several of them. Roy Craig. And >> so the other people are all about it and they're like, "Dude, it's only a factor of 10." This is exactly what I've been saying about why we just need our energy, our lasers to be slightly more powerful and it's going to be obvious we can manipulate spaceime. The lasers were already super close 10 years ago. The lasers publicly are already achieving the levels needed to start interacting with the vacuum directly. Atoc lasers chirped pulse amplification. Go look them up. So here he's saying we only off by a factor of 10 and you just gave up on it. He's like we're engineers. We can figure out a factor of 10. Like that's nothing. That's easy. Maybe a factor of a million might be hard. A factor of 10 is is easy. >> Couple of others. And this has to be 1968. It has to be 1968. 1967 or 1968. >> Uh I concluded that this was not an objective study. So I wrote a letter to Condan. >> Chad, this is the best part. Chad, when he says I wrote a letter to Condan, I went oh yeah. Oh my god. This is going to be a Jack Sarfati Ash and Forbes email exchange. You can feel it. You can feel it already. So let's just set the framework here. [clears throat] These guys from McDonald Douglas, the smartest ex aerospace engineers on the planet, which include Paul's probably before David Fonian's time, but definitely Robert Wood was there. These guys present to Condan, who is a skeptic non-believer in UFOs. They they present to him how this all works. And his response is, "Well, it's off by a factor of 10, so it's impossible." Which is the stupidest, most ignorant response ever. And so now in response, because all of Condan's friends were like, "Yeah, he wasn't even trying. He didn't want it. He was an idiot. He's we basically just have to wait for him to die. There's nothing we can do about it." So because of that, he writes a letter to him >> suggesting that it might be helpful if he would establish his group in two parts and have one of believers and one of disbelievers and let both of them go to work. [gasps] >> So he sends the letter and he says, "Hey dude," he says, "How about we do it like this? How about you take the believers in the UFOs and the non-believers in the UFOs? You go do your own thing. We'll go do our own thing." and then we'll just see who gets there first. This is exactly what happened with Reddit and the MH370 videos. Like exactly what happened. The problem isn't The problem was always that these guys were trying to solve it. The other guys weren't trying to solve the UFOs. They were trying to make the UFOs go away. The Redditors were trying to make the videos go away. I did the same thing. The Redditors didn't want to interact with me. They didn't want me on their forum. They banned my name. They actually banned my name from Reddit. You couldn't make a post with my name in it anywhere in the context. Anywhere anywhere in it. That's how much they hated me. They made it automatically get deleted if you used my name at all. Think about that. Think about how mentally ill you have to be to go to that length. The only reason why you do that is because you're not trying to solve the case. The Condan committee was not trying to solve UFOs. If you split up into two groups, one group figures it out. The group that believes in it. The group that doesn't believe in it gets looked like idiots. They get looked like fools. So, you're going to go ahead and present to Condan and say, "Hey, I guess what if we split into two groups and we go do our own thing." I already know what's going to happen cuz I know what happened in the real world. Cuz you know what I did? I split and made my own subreddit. I made my own subreddit. I said, "Fine, you guys can have your subreddit. You can ban all of us from your subreddit for all the fake reasons you guys use. We don't care. You can have your own play pen. We're just going to get our own play pen and you don't bother us." That's all we asked. Don't bother us. We believe the videos are real. We want to solve the case. What do you guys think they did to my Reddit? If you guess that they permanently banned it immediately with no explanation whatsoever, then you are correct. Come up and grab your prize. They banned my entire subreddit with no cause, no explanation even given. And when I appealed, they first ignored the appeal. Then on the third appeal, they just sent back another thing that said, "If you appeal again, you're going to be banned and we're not giving you any reason." literally 100% all 100% true. No, no spin whatsoever. And the reason is because they're not trying to solve the case. They don't want the truth to come out. All you have to do is look at people's motivations. Why are there people three years into this? We're three years into this, guys. And there's people every day stalking my replies. They have a Discord dedicated to me, to hating me, and they go in there and they just try to go in my replies and try to convince people the videos are real, that the videos are fake. How how much time would you have to spend spend your life doing something like that? Think about it. with their angles and said, "I'm taking the liberty of sending this a copy of this letter to every member of your group whose addresses I had re received from them privately." And he was so furious at that he sent a copy of the letter to everyone in the group. So basically he sent an email. He copied everybody in the condan committee, including the defense contractor engineers who presented the idea and said, "Let's do our own thing. You do your own thing. You're an idiot." And yeah, Edward Condan was furious. This was he had gotten publicly humiliated by Robert Wood. Publicly humiliated, made to look like a stupid [ __ ] Turns out Robert Condan was a stupid not Robert Condan Edward Condan was a stupid [ __ ] He didn't know anything. That's the truth. That's just factually that's factual information. So he got made to look like a [ __ ] and he crashed out. He crashed out on him by a real engineer. He called up James S. McDonald who was at that time the the chairman of the newly merged Douglas and McDonald aircraft companies. and tried to get me fired. >> He calls up Douglas McDonald. Is that what he said? Whatever. He calls up the owner and tries to get him fired. He tries to get him He tries to get his number one engineer fired. Basically, he has a Joffrey moment in Game of Thrones. crashes out cuz he gets completely embarrassed by a defense contractor, by a black project engineer, publicly humiliated, and crashes out and goes tries to go up to his boss and get him fired. That is crazy, dog. Why? Just cuz you were humiliated. Cuz you were wrong. Wow. That's crazy. It really goes to show you wonder how could they hide this? I mean, what do you mean how could they hide this? The whole system was set up to hide this. I'm surprised this ever leaked out at this point with all these layers and fragile egos and just completely corrupt, immoral, horrible, horrible people in charge. I'm surprised this ever got out. I'm surprised this Have we ever seen this before? Any of this crazy >> really. I found this out three years later from my boss. >> Uh who apparently number one reported that McDonald said, "I don't like other people meddling in my business." So that was nice to hear from the CEO and and he asked, you know, the usual question, well, what did he do? And the answer is he wrote a letter. And he wrote a letter that had been approved through my management because that's what I did. And uh and so my management backed me up. He backed me up. And and I didn't never learn of this until about three years later that my career was, you know, practically uh gone. >> So the head of the Air Force condom committee tried to get you fired. >> Condan personally. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Right. >> He clarifies it multiple times. He's like Condan personally tried to get him fired and and ruin his life. And this mirrors what Peter Zimmerman and Robert Park tried to do to Tom Voluone. They did the exact same thing to Tom Voluone. Tom Voluone publicly humiliated Robert Park and Andrew and Peter Zimmerman, two douchebags in the government that were covering up free energy. He humiliated them because all he wanted to do was teach people free energy. Teach people zero point energy and they had no reason but interfered and made sure that he couldn't do that and they lost their court case against him. Tom Balone won. They were wrong. We've seen this play out time and time again >> personally. try to get you fired. >> Right. In the meantime, there was one other thing that came about as a result of my association with Jim McDonald and and that was we had become quite quite friendly. I like the guy. He was really an energetic physicist and and wouldn't let any grass grow under his feet. When he when he got a case, he would dig his teeth into it and present a overwhelmingly convincing story to professional societies. And he would talk to the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics and the American Physical Society. And I happen to be members of both. Whenever he was in town, I would pick him up, escort him, make sure that he felt welcome. And >> OMG, he became friends with the founder of McDonald Douglas. He became friends with Jim McDonald. OMG, Chad. So, this is what it looks like when you're a dude who's trying to figure this out and you're only being given partial pieces of information. And he knows way more than what he's saying here as well. So, let's listen closely. So once when I was traveling through Tucson where he lived, I stopped. I had a like a two-hour layover and to catch an airplane. He came out to the airport to have a beer with me. And so said, "Well, you know what's what's new, Jim?" And he said, "Well," he says, "I think I got it." I said, "What what do you think you got?" He said, "I think I I got the answer." I said, "Well, what is it?" He said, "I can't tell you yet. I got to be sure." And it was six weeks after that that he planned to shoot himself. And uh you know a couple months after that that he finally finally died knowing >> what what that was not a twist that I was expecting. He tried to kill himself and then he died under pretty shady circumstances right after he tells him I figured it out. Uh okay. We might have had the one of the first hits on uh a free energy engineer here tried to shoot himself and he failed apparently. That happens all the time. Wow. Okay. >> What I think I now suspect about the skills of our counter intelligence people, I think we had the capacity to convince him to do it himself. And I think that's what happened. >> Well, one of the things that one does in beginning to study the subject of UFOs is to answer the obvious questions of where do they come from? Is it all real? And if that's true, how do they work? What's the evidence? And so one of the things that I did kind of early on was to take the data that we got from reading the literature that Stan Friedman was kind of collecting and and take specific cases to see what clues were there. For example, the case of the Paul Hill sighting where there were two UFOs circling around each other at a known distance apart and under known cloud cover that there was 135 gs of acceleration. So you had, you know, really a good number. And then likewise, you can compute the G's from the time to disappear over the horizon. So I developed a kind of a technical briefing on on what we knew the limits might be and and also things relating to the physical evidence that is uh indentations on a railroad die that were so deep and so big a diameter told you you know what the pressure was going to be per square centimeter and you can make an estimate of what that meant with respect to the the weight of the of the craft. [gasps] So these kinds of things I just kind of automatically did as I was de developing my thought processes and I concluded that there was just no question about what they were. They were genuine real objects and that they worked in some specific way and that >> this is the most important part. There's people trying to they're trying to set this narrative. They're trying to make these things go away however they can. Chad, they are not planning on revealing this truth to you. I'm just going to give it to you honest. They are not planning on revealing this truth to you. And they're trying to claim these are not real. They're laser illusions. They're just they're holograms. They're just confusing you. Don't believe your eyes. No, these are real objects. They're absolutely real material physical objects. Anybody trying to tell you otherwise is gaslighting you. Don't listen to them. And people are going to gaslight. You're going to be gas lit all up and down over this. Why? Because people's lives are on the line. People's lives are on the line and they're going to lie straight to your face because in their minds they're justified in lying to you. The only person you're not going to get lied to is right in front of you right here. You're going to hear the hard truth even when you hate it. Even when you don't want to hear it. >> The only question was to figure out how. That is there were not there was nothing like magic and there are no secrets if you're smart enough. You just figure out what the equations are and >> right there. There it is. There's no magic. Magic doesn't exist. Whatever the aliens figured out, we can figure out too. We figured out the the equations and then we figured out the alien technology. It's really that simple. People trying to over complicate it. No, it's not more complicated than that. Any technology that exists in this world that comes from the past, ancient civilization, alternate dimensions, demons, angels or aliens, humans can understand ourselves. And if you don't understand that, you need to read read more. I'm going to go back five seconds. The question was to figure out how that is. There were not there was nothing like magic and there are no secrets. If you're smart enough, you just figure out what the equations are. There are no secrets if you're smart enough. You just figure out what the equations are. Remember that. The goat told us that, chat. >> We weren't there yet. We we we studied this project on company money and wound up we spent $500,000 of 1968 to $70 um of the company's money. Here we were studying a technology that might be a thousand years ahead of ours and we might not have the materials or the or the methods or anything. So, the right thing to do was to to cancel it. were there were other things as I became more familiar with the literature that I gradually developed an opinion on. One was the opinion that the psychic communication was always a clue and was usually present. As I remember the one case that particularly impressed me of some guy in Mexico said he came, he was hiking, he came around a corner and there was this huge alien with a a device around his belt and so the guy touched the belt, turned a knob and all of a sudden he was hearing what the alien was thinking. This is the part where I'm admittedly the most skeptical. And when I say most skeptical, extremely skeptical, I don't believe any alien stories unless you can produce an alien body at this point. I mean, I hate that that's where we're at, but that's just where we're at today. Everything can be faked. And I kind of wonder where the alien bodies have been. If we've been collecting so many of them, we think we should be finding some more of these alien bodies with more evidence than what we have right now. So my concern here as well, just like with everybody, is that Robert Wood may not have had all the access either. Maybe he just knew. He saw something and he knew there's something being hidden here, something huge. But he is trying to figure it out for himself. He's trying to come to his own opinions. And the way he talks, the way he's tentative in his speech, he says, "Well, my opinion morph, my opinion changed. My opinion changes. I read this literature." Because he's telling us, walking us through his thought process. Very important. When you're listening to people that are credible, they will often tell you that. I know I just told you that I'm the only one that will tell you the truth, but that was kind of tongue-in-cheek. You get that, right? >> Directly, just like that. and say, "Well, you know, that's what we need is a device like that. All you have to do is figure out how it works." And it should be straightforward once we study that. That's why when when I was in the vault, I was working with a guy who turned out, you may even have heard of him. Uh his name is Jack Hul. Um who had a good deal of interest in studying anomalous things that had to do with mind. And so he had been looking at the subject of remote viewing. He invented the PK party with Colonel John Alexander and whom you may know, well, whom people may know of. And uh Jack got me interested in uh doing becoming familiar with with remote viewing. And so I met Hal Kutoff when he was working at SRRI chat. I it was so hard for me to keep that secret until this came up for like 20 minutes in this clip. [music] Who' you meet again? Please go ahead and tell us one more time. A shout out to Martin Fleshman Memorial Project. there. Uh there's our boy Bob uh Green. You're in the chat. Sorry. Who' you meet? All roads lead back to Hal Pudof chat. >> Uh doing becoming familiar with with remote viewing. And so I met Hal Pudof when he was working at SRRI. And Hal told me about their program there. And and one thing led to another that we did a little uh coordinate remote viewing program of our own. >> One thing led to another chat. You know what that means? Cuz that's a love that's how all love stories begin, chat. One thing led to another. Next thing you know, you're doing remote viewing at Hal Pudof's house. Next thing you know, you're building some alien plasma orbs to the United States government. You don't even know you're doing it. You know, that's how it happens with Hal Pudof every time. He's the He's the squeaky uh he gets he makes the squeaky wheel work, chat. He finds all the people. He's a man. and he's the fixer. >> And it turned out that Mr. McDonald became aware of this fact that we were doing this in in the vault. At least we were thinking about doing it. So, wait, wait, wait, wait. Then he says, Mr. McDonald became familiar, became aware we were doing this. How? How? Think about that. How could the boss find out that you were having a little love affair with Hal Pudof? Oh, because Hal Pudof told him. Because Hal Pudof told him. Because Hal Pudof was also friends with the owners of the defense contractors, the literal founders of the biggest defense contractors in the world. Oh, did we just put together a little logic puzzle from that in in the vault? At least we were thinking about doing it. and he called me into his office one day when I was back in St. Louis on the business trip and I thought, you know, I'm about to about to get really chastised. But he talked to me for two hours and said he was excited to find out there was somebody who was interested in the subject because, you know, he he named his airplanes the Phantom and the Voodoo because he believed in that stuff. Uh, and the Banshee, I think there were maybe four names. And >> they called those planes crazy ass names because they believed in UFOs. Direct quote from the GOAT said it. The owners called him the Banshee because they believed in UFO tag. >> So he gave us $20,000 to study this coordinate remote viewing covertly in the vault. The net result was that I had become familiar with yet another corner of anomalies, namely the psychic end. And so I just actually I started to inadvertently just add together what I knew. >> There is a connection to this psychic thing. There is a connection to this psychic thing. Yes, all roads go to Hal Pudof. If that guy's not out there spilling his guts to Arrow and Avi Loe, then what the hell is he doing? Then he's definitely covering it up. Definitely. Um, crap, I forgot I was going to say >> about UFOs and what I knew about psychic stuff and figure out >> the psychic thing. The connection is this. Our bodies are receivers. Our bodies are just receivers tapped into a cosmic consciousness. That's the answer. We're tapped into this zero point energy and this allows us to achieve this consciousness effect. But really, we're all connected. We're all connected. But it doesn't mean like Sabine Hosenfelder is trying to claim the double slit experiment means that super determinism is true. That everything there's no free will. Everything has already been determined. But that's obviously not how the world works. Do you believe you have no agency? Do you believe you can't decide if I want to move your arm left or right? Of course you decide those things. Of course, we have deterministic ability. The real secret is that we're all connected from an invisible source of energy, an ocean of energy. What feels like empty space between us is not really empty at all. And that means that everything is connected like a spring, like a giant spring where if you stretch on one part of it, it impacts another part. That's the secret of the universe. >> They were all interconnected. And if you get one set of equations, you're going to get the other. And and Hal Put and I were in agreement with that. And we'd established a um pretty good relationship because I was doing some innovative things that Hal hadn't thought of. I came to the conclusion >> we established a good relationship, me and Hal Pudof. Me speaking here is Robert Wood. And I found some things that he hadn't considered yet either. And this is the guy that just told us twice in this interview that he's going to make a a spinning coil to counteract gravity. A superconducting coil with enough voltage that the capacitor can hold it to counteract gravity. Does a spinning superconductor sound familiar to anybody? Uh, spinning superconductors, ceramic spinning superconductors, what Ning Lee and Eugene Pllenov were doing. Is anyone going to figure this out or are we literally going to have to drag these morons across the finish line? Come on, guys. I know you're tired. We want this disclosure today. My god. early on that the evidence for extraterrestrial visitation was just overwhelming. I mean, almost so large that you don't even have to discuss it. As I became more familiar with the UFO program on projects, especially in my conversations with Jim McDonald, I originally kind of thought, like he did, that either had to be a cover up or a follow-up, and he had leaned strongly to follow up. And there was certainly enough evidence to support a lot of followup by the Blue Book personnel. >> What is he saying? Followup or cover up? Is he saying that they were either incompetent or malicious? Is that what he's trying to argue here? I couldn't actually understand this when I heard it the first time and I still don't really understand it. I think he's trying to say, are they being malicious about this or are they just being ignorant from the Condan report. However, in my last conversation with him, as I thought back on it, I concluded that what he found was that he'd found that there was a cover up and that he very likely had >> Okay, well, help me out. What's the difference between a cover up and a foul up? I guess I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with the foul up terminology, so people are going to have to help me out with that. I don't understand his point here. >> Run into the crash the crash retrieval story. And that's why he wanted to make absolutely sure that it was right before he even told me. So since then I have not closed my mind to any possibility including the degree to which we might have been successful in reverse engineering or reverse sciencing the the craft the possibility that we've been doing that same process in the psychic domain. And so right here he says, "I kept my mind open to the possibility that we were just successful in reverse engineering it." This right here is the most credible thing he says. He says, "Hey, I kind of concluded that these UFOs have to be aliens. The technology is just way too crazy and normal conventional humans have. But there's a lot of secret projects out there." A lot of secret projects. And those secret projects people are working on stuff that people don't know about. So in theory could be humans. >> Possibility that our intelligence and counter intelligence forces are sufficiently sophisticated that there's almost nothing they can't deal with. I mean you can imagine in this com >> think about what he just said right there. This interview just gets so good right here. He says our intelligence and counter intelligence and military could be so sophisticated that there's almost nothing they can't deal with. You want to know why I crashed out at the beginning of the stream? Cuz those words have been haunting me all day since I heard them. And they'll probably haunt me for the rest of my life because it's almost certainly true. They planted those cloud images on the internet 6 months after the videos leaked because they got caught. They were ready for they were ready for their videos to leak on the internet. Think about that. They came up with a backup plan for their videos of them teleporting a plane leaking on the internet, which by the way, sorry to do this and change the topic real quick. This is actually teleportation. This is no question teleportation. How do I know this? The proof this is teleportation proof. It's not annihilation. The total internal reflection. You can see that the plane has already been teleported. That's why you can see the tail of the plane sticking out. The reason why you can see this shadowy area with the tail of the plane sticking out of the first frame of this zap is because they changed the space-time metric and suck the plane through a wormhole. And you can see the tail of the plane sticking out as it got pulled backwards through it. Because that's what happens when you create a wormhole is total internal reflection just like total internal reflection in water through air. If this plane had been destroyed or annihilated, that's not what it would look like. If this had been annihilated, you wouldn't see total internal reflection. It would be scattered. It was scattered like an explosion. But instead, we can clearly see the outline of the tail of the plane. That proves they really did teleport this plane. As insane as that believe as that is to believe, it's true. Now from my kind of current work that as you look at the majestic documents, the ones that we're we're researching that the 1952 documents basically say that the most critical problem is the control of the press. You can imagine a group of guys say in about 1949 getting together and say how are we going to keep the public from knowing this? And it would have been a challenge. It would have been a fun project to develop the plan to ensure that the public never really found out the truth. And >> the more he talks, the more rage builds inside of me, chat, until I explode. Why? Because he's 100% right. And he's just telling the absolute truth right here. He's going, "The number one thing to control is the media. Actually, the biggest thing you, if you want to keep this secret, the biggest thing you have to control is the media by far. You have to control all the avenues of information." And he says it would be a fun experiment to try to come up with a strategy for controlling the media and keeping this secret. And you know what that tells us? Do you know what that tells us? They already did that. He didn't do it. He wasn't the one that did it. Somebody else did it, but they already did that. They did that and they came up with that. And this guy was like me. He was somebody that liked to figure out how things work. And you know what? He liked to figure out how it worked. The black projects. He liked to figure out how are they keeping this UFO technology secret? How are they hiding it? What mechanisms were they using? This is how they were able to pull it off. They built an absolute power structure that pushes disinformation and misinformation intentionally to make narratives form, not form, be destroyed. They use social media as a weapon. They use social media as a weapon. So, you know what? So will I. I can use social media as a weapon, too. In fact, I [ __ ] love using social media as a weapon. It's like my favorite pastime in the history of the world. So, let's go, baby. Gloves are off. You know what? You want to stop disclosure? Come and bring it. I'm catastrophic disclosure. This is the hurricane. Hurricane's coming. Ding, ding, ding. I heard the bell. Let's go, baby. Good luck. And by the way, this is for keeps this time. Normally, it's just free energy engineers getting executed. They're the only ones risking anything. The government spooks are never risking anything. But this time, they're risking everything, too. This time, our lives are on the line, so we can say whatever the [ __ ] we want to say. When you're risking your life for free energy, you can say whatever the [ __ ] you want to say, too. This time, their lives are on the line. This time, when we expose them hiding free energy, we're going to line up the firing squads. We're going to do some old school struggle session type [ __ ] We're going to find out who's a traitor to America and who's not. Just line them up and start shooting people until people start talking. We'll start getting we'll start getting uh some uh confessions pretty quickly. I think that's how we deal with this kind of [ __ ] When you build some insane illegal covert covert deep state breakaway civilization into our government, uh we're going to weed that [ __ ] out root and stem. We're going to weed that [ __ ] out and we're going to shock the cosmic conscience so that that never happens again. So, good luck. Good luck. You've got skin in the game, too, this time. You've got skin in the game, too, this time. Not just us. Have all sorts of countermeasures ready for if this happens, that, if that happens, this. And so, in my opinion, whoever is in control now has all these countermeasures all worked out. And guys like me going around giving talks here and there really no no problem for them because they've already assumed that that's going to happen. They've assumed that some of the people are going to leak documents. They've assumed that some of these are going to be shown to be unamiguously genuine, but they've also said, well, they put out their small forces and say, we'll try to screw it up as much as possible in the meantime. So, some of the critics that I have, I think may be inadvertent pawns of the guys who are trying to keep it secret. >> There it is right there. He says they already know it's going to leak out. They already knew the MH370 videos were going to leak out or videos like them. The MH370 videos aren't the only videos out there. They knew the [ __ ] was going to leak out and they already had plans to get ahead of it in case it did. They said, "Oh, if some of our whammy footage leaks out, just plant some fake photos on the internet. Have somebody pretend to find them on the website. Everybody will believe it. People are stupid as [ __ ] They'll believe anything you put out there." And he says, "Even if there's undeniably true, Even if there's undeniably true footage out there, just throw roadblocks in their way. Just slow them down. Just distract them." Does that sound famili Does that sound like all my detractors for the last three years? Go look at their social media profiles. It's all about me personally. Their whole lives are about me. Does that sound weird to you guys? They're real people whose entire lives are all dedicated to me. [ __ ] To me, that's a stalker. I don't know about you guys. You got to ask yourself, why are so many people so suddenly motivated? And why do they clearly have skin in the game when they shouldn't have any reason to have skin in the game? It's like they're telling on themselves. Clearly, in order to have effective control of this subject, you have to control it at all levels. And and the most obvious level is the media. So, you have to look at all the kinds of media there are, the the movies, the magazines, and of course, in the early days, that's all they had is newspapers and movies and magazines. Now we have the internet and and >> and Professor Dave and the Corridor crew, they were exactly they were exactly that kind of useful idiot that the the deep state uses. They love those kind of morons, the self-righteous morons who are dumber than dirt who think that they're smarter than everybody else. Professor Dave is like a 80 adiq idiot. Seriously, he actually is. The corridor crew is much dumber. The corridor crew thought solar solar was free energy. That's how stupid those guys are. They don't know anything about electricity whatsoever. So, think about that. All they did was they sent those guys an email that said, "This guy's a grifter. You should debunk this guy." And then what did they do? They never even reached out to me. None of those people ever reached out to me. Never even tried to have a conversation with me. They went and made debunk videos trying to attack me and ridicule me. And for that they will have their lives destroyed. Dave Fina, the quarter crew idiots, especially the fat one with the Jordy Leforge glasses, their lives are going to be destroyed. Their wives are going to leave them or they're going to have the worst lives ever. They're going to be bullied into self harm. That's just factual statement. That is what's going to happen to them in the future. I guarantee you that's what you get. You only have yourself to blame. You should have never responded to that email that said, "This guy's a grifter. should go ahead and go on your way and make a video about him without ever talking to him. You that was you making a mistake. You can't blame anybody else for that. You had an opportunity to just walk away and you didn't. Instead, you ran right head first into it. And you know what? You could have been right. The other 99 people could have all been grifters and scammers, but the problem is you ran into the one that's not. You ran into the one guy out of all those grifters and scammers that's not actually a scammer. That's actually someone telling you the truth. And because of that, unfortunately, all it takes, your life is over from just being wrong one time because you made a critical mistake. You stepped in the viper pit and you got stung and now you're cooked. GG. Sorry. It's true. And video and all all those other sorts of things. So, but as the technology has blossomed into these other avenues, the people worrying about this control have also just moved into those avenues right along with them. So, every time new avenue comes up, they have a new counterpart. If you look at the documents that we have recovered, it's interesting that some of them discuss the reasons why one would want to keep this secret. And some of those reasons were extremely valid at the time. For example, >> this is my favorite part because we've already now dealt with all the [ __ ] We've dealt with all the mean, the the hurt feelings. We've put out there what we had to tell people, the hard truth. But now we say, why did we do this, though? This is the thing I hate the most. Why did we actually cover this up? What were the reasons why we made this horrible decision and felt like we were being morally superior? >> The first documents that we now, in fact, they just came a few weeks ago, was was one having to do with the Los Angeles air raid. And from that air raid, apparently there were two crashes. One that was recovered in the ocean and one that landed in the San Bernino Mountains. And so George Marshall who was the chief of staff wrote to FDR and said this is what happened and we are setting up an interplanetary phenomenon unit to study this problem. So the the uh the initial process would have started during the war and that's why when Roswell crashes occurred why our our teams were all poised and ready and practiced and it was no big deal. They'd probably done it several times before. Understand >> it was the war. It was the cold war. First of all, it was the world war and then it was the cold war. So we had non neverending wars where we were constantly at fear of nuclear annihilation. So we developed doomsday weapons. We naturally developed doomsday weapons because that's what we needed to fight. Reasons back 50 years ago for secrecy of course would have been a to win the war with Germany and b to make sure that we were in charge of the technology for Russia and the Soviet Union. So those those reasons remain very important and very practical and very real. And even today, I would not want to see Saddam Hussein have this high technology. I would not want to see Saddam Hussein have this high technology. He even called it high technology. That's what I was calling myself before I decided to go with zero point energy influencer. I was saying high technology. Holy [ __ ] We really did wipe out Saddam Hussein because we couldn't let him have some plasma technology. We really did wipe out half the Middle East because they're low-level primitives that can't be trusted with a doomsday weapon. How [ __ ] up is this world that we live in right now? I'm not even sure. Do we really even deserve to to hide this technology? It's starting to become starting to become morally ambiguous. Chat, I'm starting down my villain arc. chat, don't ever give me access to the orbs. Cuz now I'm sitting here and I'm wondering, okay, which people deserve to exist and which people don't deserve to exist. I mean, if we're doing this, if we're going Thanos right now, if we got to if we got to snap away half these douchebags on this planet, let me just tell you, I've got a list. Hold on. I've got a list and I'm ready. I've got like hundreds of names. We can send them to the moon, put them wherever we need to put them. Be super humane. They're going to love it. uh he may be even less responsible than the other guys but um and so to some extent protecting this technology from irresponsible people is is still a useful thing to do. The the >> protecting this technology from irresponsible people is a useful thing to do. That's why they're doing this. It's just that simple. They're doing this because people are irresponsible and they will blow us all up. Like it's not a question. No one's asking for your opinion. That is what's going to happen. That is actually what's going to happen 100%. Because it only takes one person to blow us all up. And there's billions of people on this planet and more and more every day. And now I'm sitting here going, "And you just imported how many third world immigrants into my country?" So, hey, the big problem was we had too many stupid people on this planet. We had too many stupid people on this planet that were going to blow us all up. So, here's the solution. Import all those stupid people into our into our country. Their countries are falling apart and they can't even keep their own countries up. Let's just import them here and make them our problem. Oh, this will totally fix the issue of half the people on this planet can never have this technology. How exactly are we going to solve this? How do people think we're going to solve this? Cuz the only answer in my head is some kind of dystopian fascism, some kind of surveillance state, some kind of all angels, all demons, Peter Teal love affair. And and that's one of the problems where the problem occurs because today as them, in order to keep it away from the bad guys, you have to keep it away from the good guys, too. As if you tell the public, you have to >> to keep it away from the bad guys. You have to keep it away from the good guys, too. That's it right there. To keep it away from the bad guys, you have to keep it away from the good guys, too. That's why they did it. That's why they hid free energy from us. That's why they're hiding free energy from us right now, this exact second. And that's why we can't let it stand. Because guess what? Do you want to know who funded the free energy in the anti-gravity research chat? Who do you guys think funded it? You did. I did. Every American did. It's not their technology. It was never their technology. It was always our technology. And they didn't give us our returns. I want my [ __ ] reparations. I want my reparations, chat. We've been hiding free energy. I've been working like a slave. I shouldn't have been doing any of that [ __ ] Where are my reparations? I don't ever want to have to work again. I want an AI Jarvis orb that just does everything I need to do for me. Then I'll be happy. Good guys, too. As if you tell the public, you have to assume some of the public are bad guys and they'll go off and run with it. Like some people, you know, make explosives and blow up buildings. So the reasons however I believe for or that are different now as to why the secrecy is is no longer as much of a problem is that several things have changed. One there is I believe no significant religious reason for keeping a secret at that time they didn't really know uh when there's no religious reason. Anyone trying to tell you that oh the Christian people are afraid that the they're demons that's all [ __ ] That's all leftist fanfiction there. I have met I have met countless Christian right-wing Catholics of religious people of all denominations, Jewish people. Not a single one of them's religion is threatened by aliens. Not a single one so far. When the first UFOs crashed, the radio program The War of the Worlds was only three or four years old. and people remembered how allegedly the public got all upset because there were Martians landing in the backyard. I don't think that's a problem anymore. Um the the problem of politics, I think, is the same that the people who are in power want to stay in power and unless they see this as an advantage to staying in power, there's there's no reason for them to do it. But the reason for I believe the genuine reason for releasing this information and story to the public is that we're paying for it. I mean, these covert programs have cost the taxpayers a huge percentage, you know, like uh 10% of our GMP or some some big number like that. I mean, you hear numbers like 30 to$50 billion, but I don't think that's 10% of the GMP. I'd be inclined to say we've spent more than that. We have not only the the well-known covert black programs, but we have, I guess to use uh Steve Greer's phrase, unacknowledged black programs. It's He's even saying the amount of money they've been spending on this is magnitudes higher than you even believe. You might think they're just spending like billions. No, they're spending hundreds of billions on these special access programs and unagnowledged special access programs and those are the ones they can't even talk about. >> So, fundamentally, it's wrong to steal money from people in democracy. I'm often asked, well, what do I think about what's going on today? And I guess my cautious answer to that question is my son and I study the documents that we can get a hold of and those documents tend to span the range from 1941 to 1970 and we know what they say and we think we can prove that they're authentic and genuine and telling the right story. The word is that in 1970 or so everything went electronic and that would have been I think quite consistent with what I was seeing and what you would want to do if you had a really secure program to make it go electronic or just have it word of mouth and write almost nothing down on paper for people to leak and that may be one of the reasons we're not getting leaks today. the source of the >> that's really interesting. They may have set it up when things went digital. They may have said stop writing things down. Things are digital. You can't be deleted. So they said we're only going to use They may have used a system that was word of mouth or some kind of paper system that gets destroyed after being read. And the reason why this is plausible is because this actually happened with Fogbank. Our secret nuclear material, meta material, we forgot how to make it. The only reason you can forget how to make something is you don't write it down. That's the only possible way. So this actually makes sense and fits with the real story of fogbank. Was the principal issue that I initially attacked from the point of view of an aerospace company. That is how do you get there from here? And part of that answer has to do with getting the energy to drive the propulsion system because what's the energy source of your [ __ ] UFOs? you come at me with your alien [ __ ] and that's the only question I have cuz my goat right here that's what he had too. Of course that's his question because he was a smart [ __ ] because he was a smart [ __ ] and he knew what to ask. Part of that answer has to do with the getting the energy to drive the propulsion system because clearly it's not done by by throwing little particles out the rear as as we generally do. >> [clears throat] >> So I have concluded that whatever the source of the propulsion gravity control is is the same as the source of to release energy and once you find one you'll find the other and I also think you'll probably get a good hint on how psychic things work. So >> he basically predicts what David Froning said in 1985 that when you figure out the energy source you're also going to figure out the propulsion. Yeah, we did. It's called zero point energy. When you pull the zero point energy, you create a negative pressure that pulls you forward, counter gravity. And when you pull that zero point energy out, you get usable real energy because that's energy that's hidden there latent uh untapped rest energy. Am I saying that right? Close enough. You get the point. >> Those things are likely to be interconnected at the various deepest level. Now the only the theory that I'm most familiar with that I feel kind of comfortable with is the zero point fluctuation theories that that Dr. Putoff has studied carefully. >> The only thing I feel comfortable about is Hal Pudof's 0oint energy theories. This is how he ends the the interview >> kind of comfortable with is the zero point fluctuation theories that that Dr. pooped [music] off has studied carefully. >> Oh, I you guys weren't seeing that. My bad. >> Deepest level. Now, the only the theory that I'm most familiar with that I feel kind of comfortable with is the zero point fluctuation theories that that Dr. Pv has studied [music] carefully. >> I got a call from the Gaithersburg. >> Boom. Brush your shoulders off, chat. That's a mic drop. That's how you end a live stream. Let's go to the super chats. Love you guys. Just hope you enjoyed the live stream and I appreciate you for sitting through me crashing out on a few people. Okay, Rumble or Pilled chat. Matt 1776, shout out to the pill chat, guys. Follow me on Pilled Just X Ashton on Pilled. Matt gifts the shades. He says, "Stunning shades, bro." Thank you. Appreciate you. There the shades. And then Unchained gifted the can said Ashton went full R Army. Never go full Arley. Thank you, man. Appreciate those super chats, guys. K Sierra, not Yoda, SM Ash, Bos Murphy, nice to see you guys in the Rumble chat. Give you guys a quick shout out as well. I'll give you guys an update on Lulu. Sorry to give you guys that news. It's not Nothing's confirmed yet, but it's not looking great. Mark Jackson, these mfers need prison. This is what I think is the most important. You may say, Ashton, you're too harsh on these people. Be nicer to them. Number one, [ __ ] are you crazy? They're hiding free energy. If anything, I'm being too nice on these people. Second of all, we should push for the harshest sentence possible. They're pushing for amnesty. They're pushing for immunity for crimes against humanity. We should be pushing for the death penalty. Maybe we'll meet them halfway. Maybe life in prison. How does that sound? As a halfway point. Thank you, Mark Jackson, for that super chat. XLX Squeeze says, "Will S be on the live stream?" Yes, S's gonna be on the live stream with us on uh Sunday. So, should be interesting. Come check it out, guys. I'm just going to be a participant in that live stream. Not the host. Trippy Savage. I'll post a link to it once it's up. Uh probably in a few days. You think if the hammer falls in the videos, they try to sell the public a mass alien abduction for their disclosure? Scop. Uh, I think it's too late. Good uh good question, Trippy Savage. Can they still pull off the Bill Cooper fake alien invasion? I think the fake alien invasion is out. The moment the fake alien invasion was known about, they switched the plan, but it's still good to know and look at Bill Cooper because that gives us a plot, a point, a historical point in time where we knew kind of what they were doing. It was a long time ago, but it gives us a point. They've adapted since then. Now they've got a million different scops. Now they're gonna convince you that Netanyahu is responsible for MH370 and that he's the one uh unleashing the demon aliens from the other dimension. Look, you don't believe that they're going to push that? They're going to push the craziest [ __ ] you could possibly have imagined. Chad, I'm actually worried. The reason why I've spent so much time stacking the evidence so high on all these live streams is because when this when the shoe drops, when the hammer drops on the videos and people have to accept these videos are real, people are going to get [ __ ] weird, bro. This world's going to get weird overnight. First of all, I'm going to become a celebrity and there's going to be psychos trying to kill me because I'm going to be seen as the bad guy, which totally I get it. You know, it is whatever. But in general, there's going to be cults forming. People are going to make doomsday cults to try to blow up the planet. We're going to be having to goooo people, slime people every day just because they want to destroy the planet and they're on some kind of psycho ass like mission from their god in their head that tells them they have to blow up the world. That's the world we're going to be living in. So get ready. I'm not in a rush for it. Okay. I'm happy where I'm at right now. Just doing my normal, you know, working working man [ __ ] I enjoy it. Broadway Line says, "My fam was worried about when you were off the grid this weekend. So happy to see you back on a Monday. Much love from Canada." Thank you so much, Broadway Line. Appreciate you. Chaotic, good. Thank you. Yay for not dying. Not dying is great, chat. I love it. I really do. Ms. Claire Clarall. Yeah, Claol says, "The last thing you are as a grifter. Keep giving the spooks how need another appearance on Pat Gray Unleashed." Yeah, Pat Gray is awesome. That was probably one of the best conversations. But keep in mind, we're still leveling up, chat. We might be at level 100 already, but there's no cap. There is no cap in the levels in this video game, chat. And the higher we level up, the more I can just lay out the history of who was responsible, when they developed it. And we just learned a huge point tonight. We now know that Edward Condan of the Condan Committee in 1968, he was completely biased. He was completely uh occupied. His decision had already been made. In fact, he tried to get a guy fired who just wanted to solve the problem and figure out how they the UFOs worked and he tried to make sure it didn't happen. History just keeps repeating itself or if not repeating, it's rhyming over and over and over again. Thank you for that huge super chat. Mark Jackson, super sticker. Jal Robinson, another super sticker. Thank you, Jal. Appreciate you, man. Leslie Wisdom, we spent $500,000 of the people's money. Nice to see a nod to the taxpayers. Military back projects for our protection, but we pay the bills. How sus is that? Exactly. Like, we're paying this. We're paying them to develop technology, to not tell us about the technology for our own good. That's the most messed up [ __ ] ever. If you're trying to tell me about super determinism and free will, that's not free will. If you're hiding free energy from people and you're saying this is in your best interest while you're getting rich off of it, that is definitely not free will. Not for us, at least. David Pierce says, "Where can I get that shirt?" Guys, don't you guys are going to freak these people out, man. I gotta be careful. I'm getting too big to be randomly like promoting [ __ ] But the aviation wizards, I think is what they are. Guys, I don't know how they feel about us just rocking their gear out, but I'm not trying to be deceptive about this. I'm just a huge super fan. I'm just a huge super fan of the VPU2 Wizards. I'm not trying to steal any valor. This is just a gimmick I do. So, I hope you guys understand that. So, Aviation Wizards, guys, you can get these V VP2 Wizard shirts. They are the dopest. They have a bunch of other ones, too. Kathy with a C says, "I'm going to rewatch this Robert Wood interview. It ain't your grandpa's physics." Yeah, check it out on Stephen Greer's YouTube channel if you want to watch the whole thing without my commentary. Bartt Welding. Matt Bartlesson says, "Chat, you're the loved ones about ZPE. Tell your loved ones." Yep. Thank you very much, sir. Chaotic Good says, "Alex Karp said the same thing. the all angels, all demons thing. I already know. I don't have to go back and look at when this was. I know it's the all angels, all demons things because they know. The Palunteer guys were told the implications of what's going on and they know and they probably see themselves as some righteous bringers of the new world order or some crap like that. I don't know cuz I haven't spoken to them personally, but suspected highly. Night Slayer 69 says, "This stream is going on. History is legendary. Take care of yourself first and foremost." I will. Thank you, Night Slayer. Appreciate you. Damn, everybody's super chatting tonight. Zaparoo Zapperiah, my zaps, baby. They say, "Heal up. Love you." And love you to you, Lulu. She appreciates it. I do too, guys. Kataka says, "Edward Con is my No way. Stop the cap." This is real cap, though. There's no way. That'd be funny if that was really her double her her second cousin or something like that. Stojan Car uh Oh, man. Caric says, "This live stream is amazing. This tech needs to come out to the world. But it is good to be cautious and assume that there is an alien presence. I don't care. You can assume whatever you want. You want to assume that there's aliens out there. You want to assume there's demons, go for it. I hope you just don't get offended at my takes on it because I personally I have no I have no vested interest one way or another in it. So, I'm not interested in having sex with the aliens. I don't care if the aliens probe people or whatever else. Honestly, some of those people probably deserved it. Look, I'm not trying to make it personal, but some of those people, you know, they shouldn't have been they shouldn't have been dressed like that. The aliens can't resist themselves. I'm just kidding, chat. We're definitely getting cancelled for tonight's live stream, though, by the way. Um, yes. And all all jokes about self harm are inest, guys. This is just an entertainment live stream, guys. Videos. What? Teleportation videos. What are those? I don't even know what that means. [laughter] Hey, if it works for Halaputoff and Eric Davis, I can do it, too, guys. I can just deny objective reality, too. BC Warick says, "Your health in Lulu is number one. Friday live." Yes, we're going to be on live Friday, guys. For sure. We'll be live Friday. We'll be back. Thank you, BC Wars. Katig Good says, "He is he's my grandfather's first cousin. No cap." Wow. Amazing. And then Plasma Amanda, Amanda, one of my first followers on Twitter, said gives the super sticker. Thank you, Amanda, and your children and your family. I hope they're doing well. Okay, guys, that's it for tonight. Have a great night. I love you, MH370X. I'll put a link to the Discord in the chat. We'll be back. Peace out. [music] Out in the fields where the skies are wide. Talking about a [music] journey through the cosmic ride. Einstein and Thorn, they set the stage for [music] a trip through time across the space age. 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