Black PIlled - Money, Clout, & Science
Summary
In this video, host Ashton Forbes analyzes the disappearance of MH370, arguing it was not a crash but a covert US government operation involving the teleportation or annihilation of the aircraft using advanced plasma orb technology. He posits that these orbs are aneutronic fusion reactors (specifically Dense Plasma Focus or Field-Reversed Configuration) capable of manipulating spacetime, creating wormholes, or generating 'cold explosions' via intersecting scalar waves. Forbes contends that the US government, specifically the CIA and defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, has suppressed this technology for decades to maintain economic and geopolitical control, using 'disclosure' of aliens as a smokescreen to hide the reality of free energy and spacetime manipulation.
The video extensively critiques recent public figures, particularly Candace Owens and Andrew Wilson, for their handling of the Charlie Kirk assassination debate, using their perceived dishonesty as a metaphor for the broader societal inability to accept the truth about advanced physics. Forbes analyzes interviews with David Grush, Travis Taylor, and Marco Rubio, interpreting their statements as evidence that the 'Deep State' actively prevents the public from accessing classified technologies like warp drives and zero-point energy. He argues that debunkers like Michael Shurmer and Avi Lo are likely intelligence assets paid to promote a narrative that UFOs are natural phenomena (like ball lightning) or alien, thereby obscuring the fact that they are human-made weapons derived from Tesla-era physics and fusion research.
Key Claims (6)
MH370 was teleported or annihilated by US military plasma orbs using aneutronic fusion technology.
Evidence: Gorgon Stare satellite footage showing three autonomous orbs; references to 'cold explosion' and 'intersecting Tesla beams' in leaked government correspondence.
The US government possesses and suppresses free energy and spacetime manipulation technology (warp drives, wormholes) to maintain global economic control.
Evidence: Statements from David Grush about 'sequestered technology'; Travis Taylor's admission of 'legacy programs'; the existence of DIRDs (Defense Intelligence Reference Documents).
UAPs are not extraterrestrial but are human-engineered drones utilizing plasma propulsion and spacetime manipulation (warp bubbles).
Evidence: David Grush's description of 'plasmoid type intelligence'; Travis Taylor's explanation of warp bubbles moving through atmosphere without sonic booms; MH370 orb footage.
Public UFO disclosure is a controlled narrative designed to distract from the existence of classified fusion and gravity manipulation technologies.
Evidence: Marco Rubio's dismissal of UFOs as a 'diversionary tactic'; David Grush's claim that civil applications of sequestered technology are hidden; the focus on 'aliens' rather than 'physics' in official reports.
Candace Owens and Andrew Wilson's debate on the Charlie Kirk assassination was a fabricated grift involving fake evidence (steakhouse receipt) and legal misinformation.
Evidence: Analysis of debate transcripts; lack of corroborating evidence for the receipt; contradiction between Owens' claims and charging documents.
The 'Deep State' includes high-ranking officials like Jay Stratton, Hal Puthoff, and potentially Marco Rubio, who actively suppress free energy research.
Evidence: Travis Taylor's account of being blocked by 'the system'; Jay Stratton's role in UAP task force; Hal Puthoff's silence on MH370 videos.
Theories Presented (4)
Video Details
- Published
- August 15, 2026
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- 2:25:23
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- 5,978
- Claims Extracted
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Video Transcript
Carl Sean [music] could not have predicted 2021, but he did see it coming. He wrote the following back in 1995, and we quote, [music] "I have a foroding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time. When the United States is a service and [music] information economy. When nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries. [music] When awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few and no one representing the public [music] interest can even grasp the issues. When the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas [music] or knowledgeably question those in authority. When clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, [music] our critical faculties in decline. Unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide almost without noticing back into superstition and darkness. The dumbing [music] down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously [music] influential media. The 30-second sound bites now down to 10 seconds or less. lowest [music] common denominator programming, Craigulous presentations on [music] pseudocience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance. Roll that around for a while. [music] >> [music] >> Ashton Forbes, you know that the super jacked guy. >> Malaysian 370. Contact switch 120 decimal 9. Good night. Malaysian. >> Breaking news tonight. A Malaysia Airlines flight with 239 [music] people on board, including four Americans, has gone missing >> even as these [music] grainy satellite images released today by the Chinese government. >> Again, the Malaysian flight was [music] a was one shot at China saying knock it up. >> Why shoot it down if it's hostile? Our technologies [music] permit us to manipulate time and space >> by the [music] distance annihilated. >> This country is very powerful. far more powerful than people understand. We [music] have weaponry that nobody has any idea what it is and it is the most powerful weapons in the world. Not even close. I remember [music] from Hindu scripture, the Bible [music] is trying to persuade the prince that [music] he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form [music] and says now I am become death to destroy of worlds. [music] I suppose we all thought that one way or another. [music] >> Let's go chat. Chills every time, guys. Thank you so much for being here, guys. Don't you love how many little terms that we've already quoted, already coined, already we've come up with at this point? I love it, guys. I've had a great time. First of all, guys, OMG, he got the 7K, guys. We're talking politics tonight. For the people, I I'm a little bit worried people are actually taking my post at face value. Um, yes. Yes. I got 7K from a a shadowy figure in a robe with gray hair. He just said, "Call me n interesting." No, guys. Why am I doing this? Why am I talking about Candace Owens and Charlie Kurt Casease and Andrew uh Wilson and the debate? That's what the skeptics want to say. They want to ask, you're you're in on it. You're in. You guys got You got the 7K. You're in the secret chats. Uh no, I'm not. Guys, let me be 100% clear. Why am I doing this? Because [snorts] my name is Ashton Forbes and you pissed me off a long time ago and now I'm back for revenge. This is the four orbs curse. It's coming back for you. I told you it would come. But no, in all honesty, the reason is because these people are basically like Luigi Manion skitsos. They've fallen in love with the theater and the idea and the sportsmanship and the tribal nature of the of what's going on and the underlying Israel theme. It doesn't have anything to do with the truth anymore. And the problem with that is normally I wouldn't care, but a guy was assassinated. He's got children and a wife. And I heard Candace Owen specifically say today that she doesn't think TPUSA is his legacy. That his wife doesn't have a doesn't isn't qualified to follow up in his legacy. Anybody that says that, that's evil. Defending a murderer, Tyler Robinson, and he's the murderer, I will bet on it, is evil. Now, tonight we're going to talk about a bunch of issues and we are going to talk about disclosure and UFO phenomenon and advanced technology, but we're going to talk about at least two of the three sacred topics. Are you guys aware of the sacred topics? All of you. Some of you are new and you may not be aware. [clears throat] There are three topics that are highly controversial that we never discuss on live streams because of because of how controversial they are. Number one, Candace Owens. Obviously, obviously Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk. Too controversial. People get too emotional, too upset. Number two, Jetpacks. Jetpacks chat. I know a lot of you, you believe that they're real. In your heart of hearts, you know that they're real. But unfortunately, jetpacks are not really a thing. I'm not going to believe it till I see the jetpack man flying around myself. I know a lot of you are going to give me semi videos. You're going to say, Ashton, they're real. Look at this guy hovering over the water with his little air blaster thing. That's not a jetpack, chat. Doesn't Doesn't qualify. That's not rocket, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I I I would go into it further. I would argue with you guys for an hour all stream, but you guys know this is why it's one of those we can't talk about. One of the big three topics. And the third topic, chat, the one I want to bring up right now, daylight savings. Let's start it off controversial, chat. Daylight savings. It is real. We are going to make it daylight savings all the time. Chad, if you're roll, if you're riding with four orbs, you're right about everything. You may not enjoy it. Sometimes you get a a punch to the gut, a truth nuke, as the kids say, but you're right about everything. I said daylight savings all the time. I even went into elaborate detail on why it should be daylight savings all the time and why most people have no clue what they're talking about when we bring up daylight savings. And it should not be surprising after today. Why is it black theme today? Cuz everything is black today. Daylight savings were blackpilled on daylight savings chat. Nobody even knows what the hell we're talking about. People are like, I'm going to lose an hour of sunshine in the summer. And I'm like, "No, it's already daylight savings in the summer, so it's not going to impact that." We struggle, chat. Okay, let me bring it up. The man himself, President Trump, his weighed in, chat, you know, we are big fans of the administration. They don't even pay me to be a big fan of the administration. I just do it for love of the game. Now, if that's too small for you to read, too bad. I'll read it to you. [clears throat] For many years, the vast majority of Americans, vast majority, chat, you say, Ashton, what are his sources? I say his sources are shut the hell up. Just like Candace Owens, we just have sources and we don't have to tell you because you trust the plan, chat, and things do not go wrong. So, majority of Americans asked to make daylight savings time permanent. Correct. But no administration has been able to get it properly done until now. I am proud to announce the House of Representatives has passed the bill and it has now gone to the Senate for final approval. People are sick and tired of having to change their clocks twice a year. Exactly. I don't even remember when it happens. the phone just changes and they're like, "You lost an hour. Why? Stupid. It is foolish, inconvenient, and some cases costly." Okay. Blah blah blah. You get the point. You guys suck if you believe that we should have not do this. Basically, that's how it works. Cuz why? Here's the reason at the end. Uh, it makes it safer for children to walk home from school. Increases time with your family. strongly supports extracurricular activity, big boost in sports, fitness, tourism, retail, restaurant injuries, industries, and you save money on energy bills because everybody gets to enjoy an extra hour of daylight in the afternoon in the wintertime. Exactly. Leave it is right now and we never have to change it ever again. We don't go back. We just leave it how it is right now. Simple. Everybody can get behind this. [sighs and gasps] Now, let me break it down because I don't want to spend much more time on this. This is one of the controversial topics. The argument, if we really boil it down to the facts, are this. You either lose an hour in the morning in the winter time and gain an hour in the in the evening in the winter time. So the sun goes down a little bit later in the winter, but it also comes up a little bit later. Or if we were to do the opposite, which some people say is make it not daylight savings all the time. That means right now we would flip back an hour. So for example, I'm on central time. It's like 610. It would be f it would be uh what time would it be? Well, it would be 710 right now. It would be later already. The point being, we're going to lose an hour of sunshine. I don't want to lose an hour of sunshine in the summertime. That's crazy. So, it really boils down to whether or not you're somebody that wakes up early in the morning and therefore you like sun in the morning or if you're somebody that likes to stay up later and you prefer sun in the evening. That's all it really boils down to. Anybody trying to make it about their circadium rhythms or whatever, none of that really makes any sense because your body just adjusts and then whatever it adjusts to is normal. It's not some magical perfect flow that you time flow. It doesn't make sense. There's time zones. Okay, there we go. Next topic chat, guys. I hope you're buckled up. This is a variety show today and I'm tired, guys. News. I came back from a recording with Gaia. I had a little spa day. They are, by the way, the best. If you get an opportunity to do a Gaia show, just say yes. Just say yes. Don't ask. Just say yes. Enjoy being pampered. Enjoy it. And I got to talk to Jimmy Church, which I who I have not talked to at all. So, like I told you guys, our paths will cross eventually, even if it's forced. And it was knocked it out of the park. Unfortunately, I think they're behind a payw wall, so only people that are members are gonna be able to watch that. But it's awesome. Um, what was the other thing I was going to say? Crap. Now I lost my train of thought. [snorts] Okay, let me pull up the next thing here. Uh, yeah. Crap. The Chinese spy satellite thing. Okay, one thing I want to bring up here. Maybe I've become too conspiratorial, but this happened the other day. I'm going to mute it because it's just people yelling, but this is a Chinese launch for a military civilian slash combination rocket or satellite. Now, about let's just skip ahead a little bit here. Little over a minute or so into this, suddenly this rocket blows up. This rocket goes kaboomi. And I have to say, knowing what I know now about what we're capable of and what technology is significant and important. I mean, I've got some thoughts. Just like the first thing I thought was the Elon Musk or the SpaceX rocket where you see that thing fly across and then suddenly the rocket explodes and everyone's like, "Huh, did something just hit that?" Certainly looks like it in slow-mo. My second thought was the CIA did that. Like that's some stuckset hardware software sabotage thing that we most likely did. You would think too something that you're never going to be able to get caught. Something where you either deploy some malicious code that fits into the background that they can't see at all because they're going to be checking for that. Or you manipulate the supply line. You manipulate the supply line and you make one of the some of the pieces too weak so that they just structurally fail and they just don't expect it. Right? You could do a lot of things that you could that would look natural that nobody would be able to find out about. No, I don't think they use the orbs on it. No, I don't think they hit it with directed energy weapon. No, that's too obvious. You're going to get caught if you do something like that. You guys are too You guys aren't subtle enough. the CIA. What we've learned from the CIA, guys, they're very subtle. Look at the MH370 videos in the beginning of this live stream. Notice there's just two drones there. There's no people. It's just two drones recording three autonomous orbs spinning around the plane. If you really boil it down, you're like, "Wait, there's nobody even there." And they're doing this in the dead of night. 2 in the morning in the middle of the night, pitch black. These people aren't going to get caught shooting a directed energy weapon at a space launch that there's a thousand cameras recording. So, got to be smart. Now, that reminded me thankfully of the other thing was right there. chat. [sighs and gasps] My Candace Owens posts seem to have attracted Nick Fuentes' attention. I repeatedly see him liking my my random posts about the Candace Owens or the Tyler Kh Robinson case. I think he may be a little by curious chat. I think he might want to know a little bit more about the orbs, if you know what I'm saying. But no, in honesty, all honesty, we should have a conversation. I mean, he should be able to look at this and go, "Look, I believe in some crazy ass I believe in some teleporting orbs. Absolutely, 100%. I stand by it. But I also believe in logic and reason." And here's the reality. The next generation needs to know about the implications of this technology. I'm old. I'm a boomer. Chat, half boomer. Nick Fuentes is full-on Zoomer. Full Zoomer. We must pass down this sacred knowledge to the next generation and then they can decide how to blow up the planet. Or maybe they'll make it a fascist dystopia. I don't know. I don't care. I'll be dead at that point. But it is our duty to inform them or try to inform them. We're basically like missionaries. Think of it. We're the disciples and the missionaries of the sacred texts, right? I don't have it with me, but you guys know the sacred texts. I see you buying them. By the way, chat, do not buy the stuff off Amazon for like $400. You're getting scammed. Come to the Discord or go to the people on on you on uh Twitter. We have ways you can get these books for cheaper. I'm talking about the science books. Okay. So, if Nick wants to have a conversation, I would love to explain physics to him and to his audience and he's happy to explain um why the Jews control the world or whatever. I will I will listen to whatever he wants to explain to me happily in exchange of information and knowledge. Okay, let's move on. Guys, should we do some should we do some alien first before we talk about this uh Candace Owens thing or should we just get it out of the way? Let's just get it out of the way, guys. Okay, guys. Sorry. Here we go. The big debate. Andrew Wilson versus Candace Owens. First of all, highlevel opinions and thoughts on the debate. Candace Owens did a pretty terrible job. I thought she was getting exposed pretty much the whole time. Exposed on the fact that she has no evidence for anything that she kept trying to reframe all the questions that she tries to play dumb and pretend like she doesn't understand words like complicit when she's being shown clips of herself. I mean, she got she got basically exposed being completely dishonest and completely unwilling to stand by her own statements and convictions. Uh, which is exactly what I expected to have happen. On the other side, I thought Andrew Wilson was not very well prepared because he didn't know that much about the indepth nuance of the conspiracy garbage. He could have hammered her [snorts] harder on more points, specifically the Aspen video where Erica Kirk appoints Charlie and she denied all that and pretended like it didn't happen and she has the video. I mean, you could destroy her over that. She can be destroyed over the fact that she apparently has the rooftop footage and she just didn't reveal the part where somebody is assembling a rifle on the roof. We know that because there's basically nowhere to hide on the roof. So if the person was assembling the rifle on the roof, it's going to be on the footage. It's going to be on that footage there. And if she has that, she's seen that. But she was promoting an exploding microphone theory. So Andrew Wilson could have gone way harder on some of these points on her and completely exposed the fact that she's extremely disingen disingenuous. So the other big thing too is that he was clearly doing this for clout like no doubt ankle biting for months. Come debate me. Debate me 40,000 50,000 60,000 100,000 200 thou like we get it. You you want clout. You're willing to pay for clout. We understand it. Nobody ever thought a debate was going to solve any of this. So we can just be honest. And let's be honest that he I think he will admit he was doing it for clout because he immediately also did a give and go where people are giving him tens of thousands of dollars on top of that which I guess I'm going okay make your money get your money but like this was supposed to be about Charlie Kirk and like his family and instead it's pretty much just a bunch of people profiting off of it. I want to point out too, if I've lost you, too bad. Because part of this too, why it's a black pill today, there's a lot of people here who can't stand this topic because they are 100% convinced that I don't know, they won't even tell me somebody other than Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. You're wrong. And it's a hard it's hard to listen to when you're being told that you're wrong. It's brutal. It's painful, especially when you don't have any evidence on your side. You have no facts, no arguments, nothing you can say. Candace Owens, there's literally no arguments whatsoever that a single one of her followers can say that she won. Not one. Not a single argument. And here's the harsh reality. If you can't get over this, if you can't admit that you were wrong and move on past this, because you are wrong. If you don't realize that Tyler Robinson did it, you are wrong. I'm telling you from the future right now. I keep telling you I'm from the future. You don't listen. Tyler Robinson is going to be convicted and sentenced to death. That's what happens in the future. And you're out here going, "He's 100% innocent. I know for sure he's innocent." Let's be clear. If that's you, your future is trash. Your future is never getting zero point energy. Not ever in your life. You're going to live and die as a slave and you're going to be reconstituted down into soil and green and and tubed into other people for their sustenance. That's your future. I'm out here trying to save you from that. Trying to save the sinners and bring them back towards the saint. Now, let's get to the arguments, the key points that were made. I'm not going to go through all of them. We don't need to we don't need to rego through all this stuff again, but we need to go through a few of these points. Number one is yet another one of these arguments that's had no support. This idea that there is a receipt that gives Tyler Robinson an alibi at some steakhouse. So, Viva Fry, Viva Frey, how do you Viva Fry, he points out correctly here, there's no evidence for it. >> My other question is about steakhouse receipt. >> You just said that you were done asking all your questions. >> So, you know, nothing there. I don't >> Yeah. Do you have the steakhouse receipts? My question, >> um, I have said several times that I have I have never said I have the receipt for the steakhouse. I have said the person who's working on that story is going to be forthcoming with the receipt. and that was what I was responding to and he then dropped the receipt. He redacted elements of it and I said stay tuned. He's the one working on that story. >> That was eight months ago. That was January. The claim being here is there's an alibi for Tyler Robinson at a steakhouse. And this is part of her official story in her story of what really happened. Only problem that receipt is completely fabricated. Doesn't exist. The screenshot that was posted online is just some fake receipt somebody posted. The reason why there's no name or number on the receipt. Why it's all blurred out? Because it doesn't say Tyler Robinson. How do we know? Cuz the dude came out and said he wasn't even there that day and that there's nothing that corroborates any of this story that's being told right here. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? So, Andrew Wilson wins this argument easily because this is the worst thing. This is just a matter of calling up the card number and finding out who the name is connected to it, which if you're Candace Owens and you've got government contacts leaking you stuff, this seems like the most trivial thing that you could do. But you didn't do that in the last eight months, it proves your whole timeline and it's only one phone call. So for the skits, anybody defending Candace Owens, what the hell are you talking about? This is my most kind and generous I can be to you. She didn't even do the most basic scrutiny on her own evidence for her own story. As somebody who has to answer about where planes are being teleported to, this sort of bugs me a little bit. There's no way somebody is honest who doesn't even answer a question like this. >> Okay. So, you you haven't actually confirmed that Robinson was at that steakhouse. >> All I did, as I said earlier in this conversation, was I spoke to the owner when when I broke that story. I think it was back in January. I spoke to the owner, understood what had happened. Um, and that there was a receipt. That's it. That's the extent of what I shared is what happened. >> Okay. Now, I'm going to spare you guys the rest of this because I don't like listening to it either. Honestly, thought it was horrible. I thought listening to somebody who's just avoiding every question. Like, literally just admits right there the extent of what I did was there's a receipt. It exists. And I spoke to the owner. Any specifics about that conversation? Nope. I spoke to that owner. Okay. Well, other people spoke to the owner, too, and he wasn't even there that day. This is the that Candace does. She spins the truth into a fake story and people build the fake story in their head and they believe it to be true 100%. And there's people arguing over but but they showed the receipt. Uh, Candace says she confirmed it. Uh, no. This is her saying she didn't confirm it. That the only thing she did was call the store owner. That's it. Do you get it? Do you get the grift? I'm trying to wake you up for the people that are so mentally, cognitively impaired that you still don't see that Tyler Robinson did this. I'm trying to show you exactly how they're lying to you. And here's the objective. You ready for this? Why are these people doing this? It's to flood the zone. They are flooding the zone with misinformation, fake information. Like Tyler Robinson was at a steakhouse. He can't have been there. Right? That's exactly what they're arguing. They're saying they're trying to find some way to prove that Tyler Robinson can't have been at UVU. They're trying to flood the zone with misinformation and then they point at their own fake information that they made up and they go, "This doesn't make any sense." See, see, this doesn't make any sense with the official story. Yeah, cuz it's not. You just made it up. Just like they literally made up that the gun that was shown in the photos was not the real gun. It was. It was the real gun. They're like, "That's a stock photo of that's not the real gun. That's fake. That's a stock photo. Why are they showing fake stock photos? That was also fake. That was another fake thing that they threw out there and they said this none of this story makes any sense. Well, yeah. If you keep making up fake things, it does not going to make any sense. Okay, let's go to the next clip. This was by far the worst. Now, this is where Andrew Wilson fell into the trap. I'm not avoiding criticizing Andrew Wilson. By the way, anybody thinks I have any special love for Andrew Wilson. Why don't you go back like a couple months when we were going to just do a friendly debate andor discussion and I told him, I want you to come at me as hard as you can in this debate over advanced technology. And multiple times at the last minute, he's like, whoa, let's reschedu. I got to Oh, I'll see if I can fit it in trying to highrode me the whole time and I'm like, you know what? Screw you, dude. If it's not a serious thing for you, then I don't even want to do I don't want to do it. So, I have no special love for Andrew Wilson at all. And I'm counting that as a W when he decided to when he ran away after all that. That's a W for me. And to add on to my own ego, I would have done better than him in this debate. I would have done better than him in this debate. I would have been more prepared and I would not have let her just ramble on for like five minutes about random nonsense that she kept doing this whole time. And I would have seen through this trap right here. This was the most obvious trap and it shows Andrew Wilson isn't prepared for dishonest people like Candace. I don't have it clipped exactly at this part, but Candace Candace goes, "Do you know, can you tell me what the charges are against Tyler Robinson?" The moment she says that, I knew instantly what she was trying to do. She knew that there was some extra charges that they threw on there because they were trying to like say that he coerced uh Lance Twigs or something like that. And she was trying to play the MSM gotcha game of you don't know the exact charge, therefore you're stupid, right? Like you could see it coming a mile away from her facial expression. You can also tell that she had this prepared. By the way, for the for the drunk wine mom, wait, this isn't you. Where were they? For the drunk wine moms. I see you, drunk wine mom. I might be better at physics than politics, but I'm also better at politics than Candace Owens is. And I'm going to prove it to you here. She was ready to play this game. And he should have seen through it right away. He should have seen through it right away. He did a pretty good job, but he should have seen through the game right away and called her out on it. Especially because she was trying to play the victim throughout this whole interview. She's trying to play the victim. She's trying to plead to the audience, bargaining with the audience, trying to convince the audience that she won the debate. That's the most pathetic ever. By the way, chat, if you're ever in a debate, never try to convince the audience at the end that you won. The only reason why you're trying to do that is, you know, you lost. So, never try to convince the audience that you won. She She lost the debate and she knew she lost and she was trying to do damage control at the end. It's pretty embarrassing. Pretty transparent as well. But this was the worst because she was trying to say that Andrew Wilson was trying to set her up, trying to ask her unfair questions. None of the questions were unfair. And then she does this. Get ready. >> Which one of the charges against or or all of them do you think Tyler Robinson is guilty of? When some when a Jezebel looks at you like that, you know that you got hit with the CNN trap. You know the CNN got you. She's trying her best. She got got by CNN herself and this is her best bet. Which which of the charges in the assassination do you think he's most guilty of? Uh how about the murder of Charlie Kirk? Is this What kind of gotcha is this? [laughter] Uh, the murder of Charlie Kirk. And I don't think this is the gotcha you think this is, Candace Owens. I don't know. What is she actually trying to show here? Like, what was she thinking in her mind that the gotcha was going to be? Well, we're about to find out. You ready for this? And this actually, crazy enough, I would normally give Candace Owens the benefit of the doubt on what I'm going to show you right now. But she has proven in her repeated inability to say basic words that I think she's actually just this stupid and did not know that these two things are the same. Go. >> Um the specific charge. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So I think >> when she goes when she goes Yeah. That's how you know the trap chat. Maybe I just have woke sense. I don't really know. Maybe I've got superpowers from the aliens downloading the physics into my brain. But I can just feel it. I saw this trap coming a mile away. Andrew Wilson can feel something's not right here. He can feel it. The specific charge think what I think is that um Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk. >> Yeah, but of the seven charges that he's he's being charged. >> Yeah. Can we list them real quick? I'll tell you exactly which ones. [laughter] >> I'm just smiling watching this. She's like, "But but which specific charge was he do you think most likely he's guilty with?" And then he's like, "Well, like can you just list them and I'll tell you like which one?" And she's like, "No, no, no, no, no, no. Which which one specifically?" Like, okay. Like, he finally catches on to the game she's playing here. I had caught on to the game like 30 seconds before this and was just wondering how this was going to play out, but he finally catches on to the game here. >> We'll pull them up. >> Well, do do you know any of the charges that he's >> And there we go. Do you know Do you know what the charges are? Uh, so she knew she was getting destroyed. I feel like what happened here? I feel like I can just see what happened here. She knew she was getting completely destroyed in this debate. She knew it was going horribly for her. She was crashing out like crazy. So they go to the break, probably the final break, right? And they were doing they did multiple breaks and somebody said, "Oh, you got to drop the thing we practiced. Drop the the gotcha about do you know the charges because this proves you don't know enough about the case. so that therefore all your opinions are invalid. It's like you couldn't list literally one piece of evidence for any of your claims. Not one. But you don't you don't if you don't know the spec exact if you can't name all specific seven charges right now, then your your opinion is invalid. But here's the best part >> that he's up for right now. >> Yeah, of course. But I want to make sure that we have them listed. >> Yeah, but but like that's Can you name one? Because my my general perspective is that you don't actually care about this case. You're not following it. That's the that's the question. You're just See, [laughter] >> he finally figures it out. He's like, "Wait, that's what you're trying to do?" He's like, "That's what this is about is you're trying to do some godshit of me?" Like, yes, Andrew, that was clearly what she was trying to do. She was clearly setting you up for that. Like, did you not figure that out? Now you're only figuring that out. Like, you say you're a master debater, but you didn't see this coming. See chat, this is me being critical. Should have seen this coming. I saw it coming. And it was kind of sad that this was Candace Owens only shot, right? Was playing some pathetic move, CNN level move like this. >> It seems pretty like if you're going to engage and you're going to say the evidence is overwhelming that Tyler Robinson is guilty, I just think that you should like Can you tell me one? >> Exactly. Right. It's it's exactly the same as woke. I call it wokeness, but it's people that are basing everything on their feelings. Candace is basing everything on innuendo and feelings, no facts, no evidence. And this is how they argue. They argue with personal attacks. They argue with, "Well, but can you name all specific seven charges? If you can't, you don't care about the case enough. Oh, you care about the case more. Therefore, we should listen to your nonsense innuendo." That's their real arguments. That's what they really believe. That's what wokeness is, chat. Wokeness is people that really believe that their feelings and innuendo is more important than facts and logic. That's exactly what wokeness is. And that's exactly why Candace Owens is woke. So when people say, "Why do you call these people woke?" Right? Because they are by definition woke. They base their opinions on feelings. You can really Yeah, this is a great guy. >> No, no, no. You just got to ask me, play clips out of context, put me in the hot seat. So, please just answer the question. >> All seven since you've been following the case. >> Oh, and then he messes up again. This is actually the biggest mistake. Not only did he fall into the trap, he actually made it worse for himself. This is the wrong response. She knows all seven. If she's if she's questioning you and wants you to list them, she studied them ahead of time to make sure she knew. She had them all written down and she was ready to catch you on them. You can't be like, "Can you name all seven?" Cuz of course she can. This is like when people questioned the text message photo. Remember when she had some secret text message and everyone's like, "The text message is fake." And I was like, "Wait, no." I was like, "No, she's trying to trap you guys. The text message is real. Well, she's just edited out of context, right? This is the same thing. So, this was the mistake he made. >> Okay, sure. You name You name one. >> Yeah, you named all seven. >> I'm happy to do that, but can you name one? >> Uh, I think he's I think he's been charged with murder. >> That's actually incorrect. >> Okay, great. Now, name all seven. >> He doesn't even This is like >> Name all seven. >> And And And I I >> Can you name all seven? >> I I can. >> Then do it. >> Sure. You don't have to >> do it. No, do it. I'll count them. Go ahead. >> You don't have to put your fingers up. I name them. >> Yeah, sure. >> Name them. Uh, the first charge is aggravated murder because that's >> Am I taking crazy pills here? She makes him name one. She won't continue until he names one. He says murder. Yeah, Tyler Robinson's on trial for murder. He killed Charlie Kirk. She goes, "No, that's wrong." What are you talking about? No, it's not. And then she lists them and the first one she lists is aggravated murder. And she goes, it's completely different. Chad, if this is where you're going to get information, this actually makes me This explains why nobody in America can read. I thought it was just poor education in the schools. No, it's the podcasters that are making us Sorry, I had to drop the R word one time even though we're going for those Disney bucks. Chad, I think she actually doesn't understand that they're the same thing. Like, normally I would say she's just playing up for for grifting purposes. I think she literally thinks they're different things. That's what carries a death sentence in the state of No, that's not that is literally not murder. >> Okay, >> it's literally not murder. Why do you think that it says murder in the name? Holy crap. So, for the people that don't know, A, why is Candace Owens pretending to know anything about the law? A, she doesn't. B, she's wrong about everything related to the law. See, she seems to think that she is the law and that she's doing the same thing as the courts do. She said that multiple times. Aggravated murder is just extenduating circumstance that make it so that we can give them the death penalty because a lot of places are against the death penalty. That's it. It's still murder that you're under arrest for that they're trying you for. It's just that this was a high-profile case and people wanted Tyler Robinson to die for this and therefore they're going for the extenduated circumstance which I think is correct 100%. So to make this splitting hairs argument and then this is the thing that they're saying she won over guys. I'm looking at my replies right now where I asked give me one thing that Candace Owens won. This is the thing they're saying she won where she was completely wrong about how what murder is and that aggravated murder is not significantly different than regular murder. This is the thing that they claim prove she knows. And here's the best part. They're claiming that this means that Candace Owens knew so much more about the case that she wins the argument de facto. But this is crazy to me. because she didn't even know that Tyler Robinson's father confronted her, confronted Tyler Robinson, and she didn't know that Tyler Robinson admits that he's in the surveillance. This is why the text messages, you can't just throw them out. The text messages corroborate the other evidence. In one of them, he says, "It's me. You can see me in the surveillance. Uh, hello guys. This is why if you are still a skitso that thinks that like Israel did it or whatever, you are in a trap. Your credibility is being destroyed. You are currently in a scop by Candace Owens and others. They are destroying you. I'm here to try to pull you out at the last minute while there's still hope. And if you're not paying attention to what I'm telling you right now, I'm sorry because this is probably the last opportunity. Here's her being confronted with the text messages that she didn't know were real or that the conf confrontation by the father because people say, "Well, he never turned him the the parents never turned their son in." And they say, "Well, that clearly did happen. We can tell from the context. Here's the context in the charging document. They just could be somebody else. >> The parents fact check that. >> So, I was saying I I believe what you're talking about was derived from the charging dock which was signed off by Brian Davis. Uh, let's see if that's correct. >> The context that's missed here, I'll let it go in a second. She's trying to spin a story that Brian Davis, who I guess is just the police officer that wrote this up. She's trying to spin a story that he he wrote up a fabricated charging document. That's what she she's not saying it directly, guys, chat. She's not saying it directly, of course not. But that's what she's insinuating as opposed to just reading what's on the page and realizing this must be the story of what happened because this is the charging document. Doesn't have to be exactly true, but this is gonna there's going to be evidence that corroborates the words you're reading here. >> What are we looking at here? >> Robinson's mother explained uh that over the last year or so. I'm sorry. >> Can you zoom in a little bit? >> Is this the charging dot? >> See it? >> Robinson's father reported that when his wife showed him the surveillance image of the suspected shooter in the news, he agreed that it looked like their son. He also believed that the rifle that police suspected the shooter used matched the rifle that was given to his son as a gift. As a result, Robinson's father contacted his son and asked him to send a photo of the rifle, which makes sense with the text messages. >> Robinson did not respond, however. Robinson's father spoke on the phone with Robinson. Robinson implied he planned to take his own life. Robinson's parents were able to convince him to meet at their home. >> Yes. So, this is proving my point. Is this this is from the charging document, correct? Yes. So, what I'm saying to you is that three people got interviewed on that night. Mike Mitchell got interviewed, Amber Robinson got interviewed, and Matt Robinson got interviewed. Of the three of them, only one of them actually wrote a statement, which was referred to in this preliminary trial. He came in, I believe, in March. >> What? What in the hell is she talking about? This is why, guys, if you're a complete no, no, let me rephrase this. You are a complete if you think she's cooking here in any way, shape, or form. She's saying absolutely nothing here. We just read off the charging document of what happened and is corroborated by text messages which we've seen pictures of on Lance Twigs's phone. We've seen the text messages. We know they're on his real phone because we've seen the photos of his phone with the text messages on them. Okay? They corroborate what we just saw there in the charging document because the text messages say, "My dad was texting me asking me about the gun." And now her response to all of this is, "Well, but this guy who wrote up this thing and this guy that wrote up this thing over here, what what does this all mean? Nothing. What are you talking about? Shut up." And then she says, "Well, you're not paying attention to my EV. This isn't evidence. This is just skitso ramblings of a mentally ill nut job. >> Mike Mitchell and he wrote a statement which I find to be very shady that they decided to bring. >> But why aren't the parents disputing that? >> Well, first off, >> that's the question. >> The parents are not going to ever play in court play to the >> And now she knows she's caught in a lie. Why aren't the parents denying this? The parents are the ones that turn their son in, that convinced their son to turn himself in. And we can infer that based on what we just read because we know the series of events is after those text messages and conversation, the kid went to their friends who is a deputy or whatever and they turned themselves in. So, we know that confrontation happened and now she's going, "Well, they would the parents would never do that. What are you talking?" Of course, the parents would speak out if their son was being railroaded in a fake trial. Doesn't matter what the legal lawyers say to you. Unreal. How are you listening to this? >> Cameras in court when they have a legal team that is going to be advising them not to speak to the court because you could your son could go to prison for >> they're playing to somebody else who's your source. >> I I'm I I I'm not going to address that. They're She was claiming she has a secret source that says the parents don't believe any of this. None of this ever happened. That the all that write up is fake and that they all believe that Israel did it. Paraphrasing. Are you kidding me? And then when she's asked, "Okay, what's your secret source that you claim denies all this that you claim is an insider?" She goes, "I I'm not going to I I'm not going to test that. Are you kidding me, lady? You're claiming to have secret evidence that completely exonerates Tyler Robinson. And if you really believe that, which of course she doesn't, you are letting an innocent man hang. If she's actually being honest, then she needs to reveal her sources so that we can get an innocent kid off. But she's not doing that. She needs to corroborate the receipt that would give him an alibi, but she's not doing that. And I'm here to tell you, if you're still somehow disillusioned by this, this is the grift. She's not doing any of these things because she knows she's lying. She knows she's lying to you because she knows you're an idiot. You say, she always says, "Do they think we're idiots?" Yes, she knows you're an idiot. She knows you're an idiot. And she knows you're going to keep giving your donos about, "Go Max, Candace. Go Max. Go Max, Candace. you really got those Jews today. She knows you're going to. And this has become a point where they can probably calculate it out exactly how much revenue they're going to get from you. It's actually crazy that people are still listening to this. People call me a grifter. People call me a grifter. Anyone ever calls me a grifter ever again, I'm just going to say, where are you on calling out Candace Owens? She pocketed $300,000 for this. $300,000 minimum >> saying to someone else who's your source, but won't go publicly tell the media this is not true. >> Well, what I I I did not say to you that I just said I have a source. So, I want to be very clear and take it from somebody who was involved and permanently. >> Yeah. Very, very clear, Candace. I want to be very clear. The last thing she is being is clear about any of this. She also claims that she got a secret source in the French government told her that she was going to be assassinated by French legionnaires and Israelis. And here's the best part about it. I don't have a clip for this. There is one. We're not going to post it. She didn't even tell them feds what her source was. I was wondering. I'm sitting there thinking, I bet you anything she didn't even tell the feds when she reported the assassination. I bet she didn't even say what the source was. She didn't. She confirms in this after a lot of hand ringing that she never even told the feds who the source was of the information and she expected them to follow up on it. You gave them literally nothing except for an anonymous tip that you were a thirdhand anonymous tip that you were going to be assassinated with no nothing actionable and you you expected them to come knocking on your door. Yes, Candace. Please tell us tell us exactly. Ooh, you got an anonymous source from somebody in the French government. Oh boy, this sounds very serious. We're going to put all our resources on this. Holy, you cannot underestimate how delusional this woman is. In fact, this has blackpilled me to the level where the reason why we're talking about this is I'm just in here wondering like, is this even all worth it? Should I even be talking about science anymore? If people can just grift like this and just make up, why am I working so hard? Why am I even trying to educate these people? Honestly, I should be trying to do the opposite, if anything. Really has me honestly second guessing everything. Now, last clip. I think this is the last one. Oh, wait. No, there's two more. Oh, yeah. This is Oh, here we go. Oh, yeah. This is a good one. Okay, another gotcha. This is the surveillance one, guys. Here you go. This is my favorite. Now, this is Candace Owens. Candace Owens main argument for claiming she won is that she knows the case better than Andrew. Okay. Well, this kind of defeats that argument. >> Things we have. We have rule 801. Tyler's messages that says it's not hearsay. But first, go to what Candace is asking about Skyler. I think you have it. You just text me if you want to pull it up. You said you have the text. If we can uh put that up on the screen. Thank you. It was me. Look at the pictures from the surveillance footage. It was me. Okay. I literally said to you, it's not an oof. I said I didn't remember this. And I'm I'm happy to have a fact check on that. Okay. That I I didn't call for the fact check saying you're wrong. I literally said I don't remember that. >> I'm just saying to you like I'm trying to be concise for you. >> And then also bring the 801 that you just said. What was the other one? >> Yep. >> Let me help you out, Skittles. You're going to get science. Uh I don't know. Whenever I feel like it soon. Whenever you guys finally accept the truth. It was me. Look at the pictures from the surveillance footage. It was me. I'm serious. States evidence 16.2. Are you guys kidding me? Candace Owens didn't even know that Tyler Robinson admits that it's him in the surveillance. She's been saying, "You have no evidence. It's him in the surveillance." How about him admitting that it's him? My goodness. How thick are you people? The craziest part is that she claims when she's asked, "What evidence would you believe?" She says, "If you had 4K footage of Tyler taking the shot, what?" Number one, there's basically no murders where we have 4K footage of the person taking the shot. Basically none. If that was the bar, no murders would ever be solved ever. Number two, her standard of evidence is nowhere near that high. Candace Owens is trying to say that all the evidence that the state has put forward is hearsay and doesn't meet any evidentiary standard, but all her evidence is based on vibes and dreams and anonymous sources. By her own admission, by her own admission, she says her only evidence is anonymous sources that she won't ever she won't corroborate that nobody can corroborate. But she's demanding 4K evidence from anybody else's perspective. If you want her to believe something, she needs 4K video evidence. But if she's going to believe something, it just requires some vibes and dreams. If it like feels right, then it's probably true. This has radicalized me, chat. I've been struggling with this. I'm sitting here wondering. I'm I'm chat. You know I'm not a bigot, chat. You know I'm not a bigot. But I can understand now why women were not previously allowed to vote. Now I'm not saying all women are low intelligence that are driven by emotion, but clearly there's a vast number of them that are that are attracted to this kind of true crime conspiracy slop. Like they don't even care that you're just kind of making it up as you go. And I sit here and wonder how there's no way we're ever going to be able to reveal this technology to these people. No chance. In fact, I actually this is why I think I relate to Nick Fuentes because Nick Fuentes created these people to some degree. Not exactly, but you get the point. He essentially came out as the anti-Israel person from a high IQ perspective. And then of course the low IQ grifters attracted to it. They saw the dollar signs and they said, "Oo, we can use this." And now I look at this and I go, "Man, we're kind of in a similar situation here." I go, I cultivated this big group of people that want to reveal this conspiracy about free energy and teleportation. And then I realize a bunch of you guys are complete skitsos that I can't trust with any of this. I'm just saying I understand the plight of Nick Fuentes in this moment right now, chat. I have an similar analogy. I understand the struggles. Okay, let's finish this clip. We're almost done. >> The 801 uh Tyler messages saying it's not hearay. If you have that as well, there you go. They said all the evidence was hearsay that was admitted at the trial. I don't know how Andrew Wilson didn't destroy her over this. Sure, some evidence that was re revealed in the pre-trial was hearsay, not all of it. The most important one, in my opinion, was the phone where you can see the text messages. The text messages that she was claiming were fake. Going to be kind of hard to say the text messages are fake when they're on the dude's cell phone. You may say, "Oh, somebody else put them in there." Okay. to start developing a timeline for someone else to put those text messages in there because you know what? Phones have GPS on them nowadays. Good luck. >> Saying it's not hearsay. A statement that meets the following conditions is not hearsay. >> It was hearsay. They said it in the trial. >> Hang on. Hang on. >> Okay. >> Okay. uh uh is consistent with the declarant's testimony and the declarant denies having made the statement or has forgotten or is consistent with the declarant's testimony and is offered to rebut express implied charge that talked about this for about an hour and a half and they discussed how if Lance was in court and he was giving his first party, you know, giving his testimony as the opposing party, whatever, all of this would be fine. They had an issue with how the questions were being asked and that they were not allowed to cross-examine him. Candace Owens clearly knows nothing about how courts work or trials or anything and she's just getting her information from what Ian Carol sends her on YouTube. That's clearly what's happening here. I'm going to go ahead and go all in on this like a game of clue. Ian Carol sends her a YouTube video says, "Candice, you totally got to watch this breakdown. This will give you all the the talking points you need for your stupid show." And then she just watches it, doesn't understand any of it, and then just says it and repeats the stupid that she says. No. And then this is why she just says things wrong and then says like, "Oh, aggravated murder is different." I'll say that it's all hearsay. She doesn't even know what hearsay even means. >> So that is why his video testimony doesn't even know what means. >> And what I said to you is this entire preliminary hearing is under Utah's 1102. that they are allowed to. >> The crazy part is she unironically believes that because of this law, she believes that what she's doing is the same level as what the courts are doing. That is by definition uh narcissism, egoomania. Like she is she is completely delusional beyond repair. just use hearsay. >> No, you didn't say that. You said most >> last clip we're gonna do here. Promise this is the last one. >> Uh, maybe not. We're going to do this one first. >> Charlie Kirk to his security team on September 9th, 2025. I'm going to share the message with you today, which is the first time this information's ever been publicly revealed. On September 9th, Charlie's security team wrote to him, "Yes, law enforcement has been fully supportive and agreed to uh security plan and posture. Tomorrow's event will be covered by both my team and the campus PD. If additional support is required, patrol units will be available. I have 11 on site." Charlie responded with this. "Okay, great. Remind them that they are there for one person's security only because I'm somewhat worried the left is trying to kill me. So, that right there is a brand new text message that Candace Owens never had a copy of, and she was super mad about it. Why? Because it it destroys her entire narrative. The entire narrative that she's been trying to develop, that she admits to, is that they've been trying to build this motive that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. Now there's the problem is that's a direct message from one day before it happened telling his security that the left is trying to kill him and he was killed by the left. Tyler Robinson is a homosexual leftist dating a trans furry or a furry. I don't know if he was a trans but you get the point. That's a fact. If you read what was inscribed on the bullets, it's pretty clear it was a political targeted attack. This is what they hate. They're trying to push a narrative and they don't have all the facts and they know they don't have all the facts. Therefore, it's very difficult to push a false narrative. If you reveal the facts to them, they're going to twist the facts and then they're going to present a narrative that they want. But in this case, TPUSA trapped Candace Owens. They trapped her and they didn't reveal that even though she was begging them for all his messages and they just ignored her. And now she's caught in a lie. Now it turns out the most recent message of Charlie Kirk's safety says that it was the left that was going to do it. Not Israel, the left. Now last clip. >> Yeah. the overwhelming >> the rationale and the motive. >> This I would >> dishonest. Here we go. I think this is the whole clip. It's only 30 seconds. >> Uh you're talking about how Israel got into the conversation. It was because immediately after Charlie died, uh one of the first things we saw was this push to make us all think and remember how much he loved Israel. Because the prime min is some retconing of history right here. There was no push to make us remember how much he loved Israel. I don't remember that. Somebody want to tell me when that happened? Love to see it. minister of Israel who's fighting like a 27 front war felt that he needed to come do a little mini tour and to be strangely to to state that I did not kill Charlie Kirk when nobody um was having that thought that I can remember. Nobody >> guys Candace can't remember chat Candace can't remember when Ian Carol the guy that stood in for her show for weeks while she was on maternity leave. She can't remember when Ian Carol said, "It's not even been 24 hours, but we already know who did it. Israel just shot their best guy." Or whatever. Paraphrasing. She kind of forgot about that. It turned out the only reason why Netanyahu said that he came out and said he didn't kill Charlie Kirk is because these nut jobs kept saying that he did. And they kept fabricating fake evidence. They fabricated fake evidence, including but not limited to the letter between Netanyahu and Charlie Kirk, which Candace Owens said was going to prove that Charlie Kirk was turning on Israel. And then the letter came out, much to Candace's chagrin, she didn't want the letter to be released. She had a copy of it. She did not release it. It really got released by the news. And it turned out it was a love fest. It was the exact opposite of what she said. Every single time when the truth comes out, it's the exact opposite of what Candace Owens says. Every single time. And what she's saying right now is a 100% lie. They did not blame Israel because Netanyahu is acting shady and denying it. No, they blamed Israel because they hate Israel and everything in their lives is about Israel. That's the truth. That's the reality. And if you can't accept that, you're going to have a hard time in this life. You're never going to get zero point energy. The first step when you have a problem is admitting that you have a problem. That's the reality of the situation. And now this weird recconing of reality is because she can't justify her own ignorance. She can't justify her own hatred. And therefore, she has to change reality around and make it so that she's the good guy when she was the bad guy the whole time. That's what this all boils down to. And if you are somebody who's afflicted by this, you have a mental problem. You have a literal mental problem and you literally need psychological help. I don't say this to be mean. I'm just being honest with you. If you're following this and you're listening to her and you think she's saying good things, you literally need to go talk to a psychologist and you need to go get help. I mean that 100%. Okay? I tried, guys. >> [clears throat] >> That's the extent of me trying. Let's get move on to the other topics. That was fun. Okay, you guys ready for this? By the way, I am still going to talk about zero point energy and free energy, but I'm going to talk about whatever the hell I want, too. Let's go through some of these rapid fire. I've got several to talk through. Number one, Trump made NASA into an intelligence agency. Little cool off between topics. Trump made NASA into an intelligence agency last year. And really, nobody paid attention to it. It was just written off as, well, we're trying to break up the unions, but it may have a secondary effect of making it easier to hide technology because NASA has to be seeing some of this stuff. Gary McKinnon talked about uh Donna McCair, I think her name was, right? Talked about this them airbrushing out UFOs. So, this is pretty surprising. Okay, let's go to the next thing. We're going to come back to this grush thing in a second. We took on that. Okay, little more politics. I thought we were done. Chat, [laughter] he's just so damn cute though, chat. chat. I'm not an AOC fan on any respects on really any topic in any regard, but this is psychological warfare. Chat, if you want to see real psychological warfare, get ready, chat. This is what it is right here. Wait. See, even even Twitter knows I shouldn't even play. >> Don't be weird. [laughter] Don't be weird. Don't be weird. [laughter] chat. This has been this is a directed targeted psychological campaign aimed directly at us dorks and or nerds. They know that we can't resist a spicy Latina. They know that we have no chance. It's a siren song. She's a little chubby. She's a little overweight. But when she gives you that little punch, oh, it's just so cute, chat. In fact, I'm a little worried about this. My boy Marco Rubio, you should not make light of this. Marco Rubio, sir, please, please hear me out. This might be more important than zero point energy. Very possible. Wars and presidencies have been won over memes. It has happened. She knows exactly what she's doing in this meme. Marco Rubio, you must fight back. You must employ your own spicy Latinas and get them on social media. Okay, sorry, I got distracted. See, chat, I didn't even want to talk about AOC. We'll skip the Pop-Tarts. Okay, here it is. This is it. Chat to tonight. Uh, now is the time. Here we go, chat. James Fox UFO UAP whistleblower David Grush claims to have seen highly classified videos and photos of recovered UFOs and their nonhuman occupants. That means aliens chat. Guys, where are my alien lovers? We're not We're done with politics and now we've moved on to aliens. My alien lovers in the chat, get ready. Now is your time. He and other UAP whistleblowers request immunity from POTUS so they can share with the American people. I'm calling on every influencer, podcaster, reporter, and politician to ask POTUS to make it happen. Time for disclosure is now. Thank you, Redpilled, for the for the uh raid, by the way. Should have uh said that earlier. Appreciate you, brother. Okay, this chat, no chance. Let's just let's watch. I want to be entertained. >> All know it. We know it. We demand the answers. This is our government. This is our country. This is our information. And damn it, we demand it. >> My name is Eric Burlson. My name is David Grush. >> Jeffrey Nusatelli, Kathy Brown. >> My name is Dylan Borland, a former geospatial intelligence analyst for the United States Air Force. >> I'm a Republican congressman from Missouri. I'm a former career air force intelligence officer, former senior intelligence official who served at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. >> I served as a national security contractor supporting with the Department of War and the Department of State. >> I'm a for I can already tell I'm going to get hit if I if I let that music play anymore. I can already tell I'm going to get hit with a copyright strike. So, we're just going to stop it right here right now. I'm already I'm already over this. What is this? Just them just talking? Yeah, that's it. Okay, great. Okay, man. I feel like these boomers don't get it. Do people really think that this is gonna actually get anything done here? Hey man, we need more people who are like, "Dude, I totally saw the documents with the bodies on them, bro." Okay, we're going to dig more into this in a minute, but I just made a laughing emoji, but then I kind of realized because it seemed like we heard James Fox's feelings, guys. He said, "Those of you sitting on the sidelines criticizing the likes of Grush and the others, I don't see you testifying under oath to Congress or willing to lie to the president of the United States. Why don't we all support this call to action and find out the classified details needed to verify these extraordinary claims?" And I sort of realized while listening to this chat, we are cooked. We are absolutely cooked. These people don't realize the implications of what we're talking about. Who wants a quick science lesson? Why don't we see gravity manipulation more often? Well, the answer to that is because spaceime is really really tight thick uh uh stiff. It's really stiff. It doesn't want to bend, but it can bend. And when we bend spacetime, that's gravity. So the reason why we don't see this space-time manipulation all the time is because we're not working on the scales in which you're going to see space-time manipulation. We would need to be working on very very high energy levels or we need to work on very very small scales. This is why Salvatore Py says at second lasers because they can work on very small scales that can interact with spaceime. So let's dig into the David Grush thing. David Grush showed up on Piers Morgan and all those guys were promoting it and David Grush says he's seen the documents of the alien bodies. Bad news is I don't think David Brush is seeing any aliens himself. Just seeing some documents is not the same as seeing alien bodies. So, let's go to this. >> I thought this is a short one, but I thought this was interesting. >> Oh, yeah. And why is that science important? Because if we can find a way to manipulate spaceime to to deal with the stiffness of spaceime, then we in theory can make a bubble. a bubble that floats around freely without inertia that does all the things that the UFOs do. And what I mean is, yeah, that's what the UFOs are. The UFOs are just manipulating this extra dimension, this extra this spaceime. That's all they're doing. It's not magic. They've just figured out how do we interact with that stiffness of spaceime? And what's the way to do that? One of the simplest ways, there's three ways that I think of, and these aren't exact or physics, anything like that. Number one, microchips I just mentioned or lasers. Number two, high energy physics, big booms. Number three, plasma. Plasma because plasma itself is electromagnetic and the zero point energy is electromagnetic. So why do I say plasma? Here you go. Listen to this. This is David Grush. >> The administration is having this issue with these luminous orbs showing up at a certain sensitive uh test range. Uh what is that? It's you could see that it's intelligently controlled. They come in groups. This isn't just ball lightning here, but it's this, you know, plasmoid type intelligence. Now, there might be a structured craft behind said plasmoid, and that plasma discharge might be an artifact of the propulsion system possibly. But we're seeing even weird stuff like that that uh is almost unknowable what it is unless we have some way of studying it or capturing it that I don't know about the administration. >> Um have these guys always been saying ball lightning and plasmoid or did that just start happening recently? Now I've been too much into this game for too many years now where I can't even remember the lore but I feel like these guys haven't been saying plasmoid and ball lightning. I feel like that's mostly been Bob Greener, US, and the Cold Fusion guys that have been talking about Plasmoid and Ball Lightning. And now I'm hearing David Grush bringing it up to Piers Morgan saying it's not just ball lightning, which is a natural phenomenon. Cougal Blitz, chat. Cougal Blitz. He's saying it's plasmoid. This actually sounds like somebody who doesn't quite understand the physics. They're not a physicist, but they're they're rehashing playing a game of telephone of what they were told and what they were informed. I'm going to repeat that part. Ready? >> They come in groups. This isn't just ball lightning here, but it's this, you know, plasmoid type intelligence. Now, >> so he's saying, what is he saying here? Is he's saying this is not some natural phenomenon. This is an intelligently controlled something or other >> might be a structured craft behind said plasmoid. And >> he says there might be a structured craft behind it. This is what I've been saying. There's something inside these plasma balls. It's a fusion reactor. It's not that it's just a coherent ball of plasma. There's actually something going on in there. And this is the difference between ball lightning, which would just be, oh, it just happened to come together, versus something that's like a drone. That plasma discharge might be an artifact of the propulsion system possibly. >> You see how he also says that plasma discharge and he makes like a glow a sphere a ball could be a artifact of the propulsion possibly. Maybe maybe I'd say there's a good chance. But we're seeing even weird stuff like that that uh is almost unknowable what it is unless we have some way of studying it or capturing it that I don't know about. Okay, next clip. This one. Now, this to me was a big clip. Now, you may say, Ashton, why do you watch these? I actually hate watching most of these because it's all mostly rehash. Even this David Grush interview was 90% rehash. 90% rehash of the same claims they've made. I saw the images of the aliens. That's why when James Fox and the others are trying to hype this up, it's like this is the same thing he's always been saying. There's no evidence to go along with this. There's nothing to go along with it. But this is the part where he said something that I don't think has been confirmed or revealed to date. Pay attention. Here you go. You have to be smart and you have to know what you're listening for. Pay attention when they start talking about the technology. Fruits of our labor, so to speak. And there was a lot of programs uh that once again I thought we were defrauding the American taxpayer because you have a certain smores board of classified programs reported to Congress and then Congress authorizes and appropriates funds. >> So he's talking about the special access programs. We know what he's talking about now. He's talking about the special access programs. He's talking about these SAPs and USAPS unacknowledged special access programs. This is what we have to learn if we want to be smart and steal this technology back. Keep going. >> Fun said programs. But then you have this carved out uh base of technology that is sequestered and a >> Whoa, whoa, whoa. You have a carved out base of technology that is sequestered. Those words mean that the government has essentially taken some physics, some technology and they've said this is our technology only we are allowed to have that. That's what sequestered means. So we add these two things up. Special access programs sequestered technology. Okay. Continue on sir. that is sequestered and a lot of it has civil application that would you know help humanity and I have to be careful uh not to infer certain technologies that are unagnowledged by the federal governments. >> What did you guys hear what he just said? These technologies would help humanity significantly, but I have to be careful not to infer certain technologies that are unagnowledged by the federal government chat. We just found my new favorite clip. Yes, thank you Z Jalapeno. Boom goes the dynamite. Boom. Shakaakaaka and of course Yatsi. Yes, thank you very much. Um, what does that mean exactly? Yeah, exactly. Thank you very much, Brett. Do you guys know what this means? This means free energy is actually classified. Probably space-time manipulation in general is classified. How come none of these guys ever talk about free energy? How come they never talk about teleportation and wormholes? Because it's classified. Because the technologies and applications are classified. This is why they can't even interact with meat. They can't even talk about that this is free energy because even implying that it's free energy is potentially classified at the highest levels. Wow, that's what I suspected. And you guys may say, well, yeah, doesn't that make sense? Yeah, but now we know because that's the technologies he's talking about right here. Why else would he have to be careful unless he wrote something down says you can't talk about these applications of this? You can't say this is free energy. And now think about Salvador Pais. Think about Salvador Pais. He's also avoided free energy. In fact, I think one time when I asked him, he said, "Did I say free energy?" No. They have to be super careful never to say free energy. Never to say this is free energy. They have to be super careful not to talk about space-time manipulation or at least careful of the context in which they talk about it. I think Salvatore Pais has gone way above and beyond and that's why he's been so afraid. Well, not really afraid, but the reason why they've hassled him is because he is pushing it beyond because he is saying there's an extra dimension. But he's letting me come to those conclusions. He's letting us come to those conclusions. We're reaching those conclusions. And then if we say it and when we're having a casual conversation now, he's not violating the law. I hope. Okay. Uh but there's a lot of things that I see civil application and that could be responsibly introduced uh into society uh to to help us and to also uh fuel different economies and whatnot. And yes, the closest galaxy I think it's M31 Adon like you said. However, within our own galaxy, there's extra solar planets around other nearby stars. Uh, but I do caution to ascribe this whole phenomenon as merely just extraterrestrial. That's certainly a piece of the pie. That's likely what some of this is, but there's other, you know, taxonomies of, uh, anomalous intelligences, we'll call it, uh, that perhaps it's ultraterrestrial. H perhaps it grew up here and it left and it came back and there's there's you know shadow biome there's other types of origins you know there's uh under the sea that we don't understand 70% of our oceans and what advanced intelligence might have uh um developed on the seabed so to speak >> chat underwater seabase I'm telling you 4chan whistleblower we are going to vindicate you I know you're out there somewhere 4chan whistleblower tried to tell us about the alien underwater bases that move around to make UFOs. We doubted him. We had we had little faith chat. We also didn't believe in teleportation. We believe we believe 4chan whistleblower if you're out there. I don't need any evidence. I just need vibes. Vibes and anonymous sources. I believe chat. No, real talk. I have come to a conclusion on David Grush. David Grush has not personally seen any aliens, but he's seen stuff that shows that we do have space-time manipulation technology. He has seen and he knows we have the technology. He probably does not know the extent at which we have matured the technology. The big secret is that nobody except for us, we're special, chat. Pat yourself in the back. You're special. Nobody except for us knows that we've actually figured out this teleportation technology. All the rest of these guys think it's aliens because they've only seen part of the picture. Dylan Borland, David Gush, I think these guys absolutely have convinced themselves that this is alien technology, that we can't have this. And that's where they're wrong. That's the critical mistake they're making. And that's the reason why that all of their complaints are falling on deaf ears because they're coming out here and they don't see the bigger picture. They don't realize we have this technology. We're using it to control the world. We're using it to make sure that Chinese satellites mysteriously blow up. We're doing it to make sure we have control over the land, water, and space, right? Do you get the bigger picture? We're controlling this technology to make sure that the world doesn't get destroyed. This technology is not a joke. The civil applications are real, but the military applications are real, too. Very real. This is why even people like Dr. Phil, they themselves are being blackpilled. Chat, here's Dr. Phil after five, just five. Only five UFO releases and Dr. Phil's already ready to call it quits. Chat, we've been in this game for only three years and we're still riding strong. Here we go. Dr. Phil, feel free to cry. If you need a crying pillow, Dr. Phil, I'll get you one. We got it. We've seen all the UFO people, they always come in, chat. We've seen this story so many times before. They come in, they go, "The aliens are real. We have to tell everybody about the aliens. Everybody quick, the aliens are real." And then nothing happens. And then they find out it's all about zero point energy and free energy. And then their minds break. Then their minds break and they don't know what to do anymore. Here you go. So, there are two things in there that are significant. Everything else in that release filler. Just nothing. Confetti. And I think you deserve to know the difference because I've spent my whole career telling people, don't let somebody hand you a stack of paper and call it the truth. Show me the truth. And here's what nobody in Washington wants to say out loud. We keep getting these disclosures, but with no context, no answers. Nobody tells us what the investigation found, whether it's still open or whether anybody's even working the case anymore. You get a video, a document, a witness statement, a press release that says, "More to come." What are we stupid? That's not transparency. That's some kind of a magic trick. Look over here while I don't tell you what's over there. And I want to be fair about this. I believe the president wants the truth out. I do. But somewhere between him saying release it and it actually landing on a website, somebody's deciding what we get to see and what stays locked up. Here's the problem. I don't know who that somebody is. And neither do you. And that ought to bother every single one of us. No matter what you believe is really going on up there, >> chat red pill Dr. Phil has already himself become blackpilled. Already starting to see the pattern. Wait a minute. Why are we getting like 1960s like omega fuzzy quality videos? [laughter] We know they have super HD. We know they have predator vision and gorgon stair wide area motion imagery. How come they're giving us the oldest jankiest videos? How come there's no context on any of these videos? Where it was from? what the investigation found. Nothing at all. [laughter] If you don't see that you're being played, that you're being played like a donkey with a carrot in front of it down a path that they want you to go, then you are the mark. And and Dr. Phil sees it. And here's the problem before we move on to the next clip and the next thing. The problem with this is that how do you even reveal this? It's clear the reason why they're doing this slow drip is there's no way to reveal this technology without a massive amount of fallout. The fallout is going to be tremendous. I'm talking about industries collapsing. I'm talking about people deciding they don't want to be in this world anymore. I'm talking about we're going to have to start being medieval in our methods to make sure people don't use this technology to blow us all up. The implications of this technology are so massive, so dark, there really is no clean way to do it. This is why I've always said, just rip the band-aid off, man. What are we actually doing here? Stop with this slow drip disclosure. Just tell us about the MH370 videos. That will just reveal everything. And then just let the chips fall where they may. That's the only way this is going to work. If we try to do this slow drip disclosure, reveal a little bit, maybe they'll figure out enough, but we won't be able to implicate us. Come on, man. Never going to work. Never going to work in a million years. So, we are being fed a story down a path that protects national security, protects the technology and the weaponization of technology while trying to tell us some story about aliens. that may be true, maybe isn't true, but ultimately doesn't really matter. I'm going to answer a quick question before we move on to the next thing. Do you ever ponder about this topic before you found the videos? Not really. I thought aliens were probably real after the Navy 2017 videos. I mean, I thought those videos are proof something else is going on. I thought it must be aliens just like Dylan Borland. Uh was it Matt Brown, David Grush? I too when you see that technology with no context, you of course think it must be aliens. But once you've actually read about the science and the history of the science, you'll see that this is actually more likely Tesla technology. More likely John Trump, Donald Trump's uncle, who got Tesla's files. More likely those are classified. More likely that technology leads to free energy and leads to space-time manipulation. That's what I think. Next topic, last topic of the night. Travis Taylor. Travis Taylor on the Y Files. This is an interesting one, guys. I've always wondered about Travis Taylor. Travis Taylor has impeccable credentials. 35 years in military, NASA, uh, contractor for as an engineer. He's got all the academic credentials you could ever imagine. Travis Taylor has everything and he's connected to all the right people. Hal Pudof, Eric Davis, Lu Alzando, all of them. So, you have to wonder what's this dude's deal? What's this guy's deal? This Travis Taylor guy, is he a black project engineer? Is he hiding it? Does he not know? Well, tonight we're gonna find out. We're gonna warm up into it a little bit by watching a couple minutes before we get to the main event here. Oh, let me switch this. So, shout out to the Y Files, which by the way, guys, why I can't even remember why I'm in a beef with the Y files at the moment. It was probably my fault. It's probably my fault. I think I called them out because I thought they were trying to help cover up the woke right guys. I could have been wrong. I'll have to go back and try to figure out. I can't even remember why I'm beefing with the Y files at the moment. But we're beefing with them. But anyway, shout out to them for this interview. Here we go. It was It was hard to write the code, too, and did the work in the in the computer and all it set the air on fire, all this stuff. >> Well, that's one solution. But if you understand the the physics of warp theory and general relativity, uh there was a paper written in 1999 that is called the paper's actually called a view from the bridge because they were trying to see if Captain Kirk could actually get information from inside the Here's the context as we jump into this conversation. He's basically saying the debunkers like Michael Shurmer say these craft can't be real because they can't fly around like this. And Travis Taylor's coming back and say, "Well, if you can control inertia, if you can control gravity, then they can fly around like that." I mean, it's honestly like toddler level arguments that we have to put up with. But, okay, fine. The reason why I find this interesting is it tells us a little bit about, you know, would somebody who's covering this up, would they say this? Is this how they would respond? He seems like a genuine guy. Travis Taylor does. And honestly, from most of these perspective, I get the feeling that very few of these guys are liars. [clears throat] Even the black project engineers that are covering this up, I think they're probably good guys in general. >> Work bubble. >> Mhm. >> And what they found was that information can't penetrate the front or the back of the bubble. Uh that uh that that it creates a impenetrable information barrier and so anything will just move around it without interacting with it. So, if there's a warp bubble moving through our atmosphere, the atmosphere is just going to move out of the way. It's not going to need to make a sonic boom. It's not going to rip the air apart. This the air is just going to act like it's not there, >> right? >> It's almost uh [clears throat] the air is going to act like it's just not there. That remind you guys of anything? Everybody wondered, "Hey man, my favorite thing when the debunkers when they look at this, how come how come the the clouds don't get blasted away? How come the clouds don't get blasted away?" Because when you have a warp bubble, it just acts like it's not there at all. That's the perfect way to describe it. Thank you, Travis Taylor. That was even the best video to show. The better video to show is the other one. Where is it? Here. Why do the clouds not get blasted away? Because it's a warp bubble. Cuz it's a warp bubble. That's the reason why the clouds don't get blasted away. Everybody wondered. But you can see the light reflecting off the clouds. One thing I'll point out, I'm gonna randomly talk about a debunk here. I think it's important to bring up this debunk. Let me uh remove this. The cloud you see on the right, see that giant cloud on the right side of the screen on here? That cloud's not in the supposed photograph that debunkers claim was used to make this. That giant cloud on the right is not in the photograph at all. Isn't that weird? That alone proves the photographs are not real. Why? Because nobody would add a giant cloud to an already existing photograph when they don't need to add a cloud. Especially because the light reflects off the cloud because it's a real cloud. reflects off the cloud in three dimensions. You don't add another cloud to a photo that doesn't have a cloud in it. So that you have to add three-dimensional lighting to the cloud. And there's no marks anywhere. Nobody added that cloud to this image. If somebody added a cloud to a image and then they made this video from it, we would see where they messed up and they added the cloud. That's a real cloud. Nobody's even denying that cloud is real. That's real. Not computerenerated. Real cloud. So, whatever cloud photos people were claiming were used to make these videos, no, they weren't. Not if there's a giant missing cloud in them. Geez. Okay. Sorry. Back to the task at hand. It's like a micro universe. >> Yeah, that's exactly it. It's a pocket universe. What I call it, right? Yeah. And and so the question there is, does Shurmer not know general relativity at all? I'm sure he's a smart guy. >> He knows. >> So, and and and I know Abby Lobe does and they're they're buddies. I mean, so why do they say things like that? This is where I got to agree with him. And this right here, when he says this, think about what Travis Taylor is saying right here, guys. We're psychoanalyzing the out of this. It's what I do now. I'm a political commentator. He's questioning whether or not Michael Shurmer and Avi Loe are intelligence assets. That's what he's saying right here. Why? Because he's saying these guys are smart. They know what Miguel Alubier's warp bubble is. They know that these are the answers to their own questions. They're asking questions like this is not physically possible, but they know what the answers are. This is what I've always been suspicious about Avi Lo myself is that he's a smart guy. There's no way he thinks that aliens are flying around on space rocks. He knows they're using warp drive. So why is he playing stupid? Why is he talking about negative energy is not real and we can't make negative energy? It really does lend to the idea that these guys are actually intelligence assets that are paid to just push a phony science narrative. Why do they say things like that? Just to say, well, that can't happen. If that was there, it would rip the rip the air apart. It set the atmosphere on fire. Or or what if it was a warp bubble, >> right? >> And it was following the the laws of physics as we understand them. We see it happen in water, too. >> Yes. Oh, there was a, you know, there was a a project that and I can just tell generally based on the comments that people say. I can tell that they that they may not watch this show or our content, but they see our content. Our ideas are getting out there. This is why I say I don't care how many followers I have or how many more I get because I already know my message is getting out there. When AJ says, "You see it happen in water," what's he talking about? He's talking about a refractive index change. AJ's literally talking about the thing that Dave Rossy showed Tim Pool when I brought him on Tim P and he put the glass in the water. He put the the pencil in the water. He says, "See the refractive index change of the light where it bends." Same idea. We're going to manipulate spaceime and we're going to change the refractive index of spaceime. And that's why your object's going to look like it teleports. That's also what total internal reflection means. when you see the tail of the plane sticking out when the plane gets teleported. >> DARPA did back in the 80s called Warp uh Project Warp Theory or Warp Drive. Project Warp Drive. >> Here we And it was uh they basically made a submarine that looked like a narwhal and the big nose out on the on the submarine had uh little pockets little little bubbles in I mean holes in it and they would put out nitrogen gas and uh and create bubbles air bubbles little bitty air bubbles that would go around create a a warp bubble of bubbles around the submarine so it would reduce the density of the water. >> That's right. The cavitation project. I remember this. And so it could go fast. >> Somebody just said sonoluminescence. Yes. When we talk about cavitation in water, we are generally talking about sonoluminescence or its cousin at at a very least. The idea that we can make an implosion bubble that can pull light straight out of the vacuum >> faster. Yes. Than a submarine in water could go. It would go faster than the speed of sound in water. Right. potentially, which is a a warp bubble, but a warp in the water in in in hydro dynamics, not not in, you know, space-time dynamics. But but uh so what I mean that's the it's a it's a neat idea. It's the same idea. It's just doing it in a different way. We don't know how to create those little bubbles yet, you know, to do a real warp drive. >> Why do you think they're keeping it from us? >> Okay, this is where it's going to start getting good. This [clears throat] is where we start judging whether or not Travis Taylor knows. By the way, I've already sent him an email and he didn't respond, which pretty much confirms my suspicions, but we'll see. >> I don't know who they are. >> Yeah, it always comes down to who they are. >> Yeah. And and so I, you know, even if we we put in the I I don't think it made it. I think they uh there were some antibodies that edited out the first report that the UAP task force did back in like 21 or two. I forget the year. Um we had a page in there that said it's either us in a classified project that for some reason didn't reveal itself to us, right? Which we we rated as very low probability because we had access, right? It's a it's a near peer, you know, China or Russia. Uh, but our intelligence network hasn't given us any information that it was that. Um, it's mother nature doing something new that we've never seen before, which is possible for some of them, but not for all of them, right? The ones that look like actual things is unlikely to be ball lightning, right? >> Uh, and then there it was. There it was again, chat. Ball lightning again. Let me be honest. Do you guys think these guys would be talking about ball lightning if MH370 topic hadn't come on the scene? I don't think so. I really don't think so. Now, what is he saying here? He's saying number one, and it seems like he's saying he was part of the committee that determined in 2021 the recommendation. He says number one, it's either us and we don't think it's that because we had clearance and we couldn't find it. Why would they not reveal themselves? Um, cuz they have teleportation technology. They have free energy techn You're asking why people with free energy technology and doomsday weapons don't reveal themselves to you. Is that a serious question? They're hiding fusion from the world and you're asking me why they don't reveal themselves. Probably because they don't want to be burnt at the stake. What do you think's going to happen when the Department of Energy comes out and says, "We've been hiding fusion for 80 years." Yeah, you could be flying around their jetins with miniature fusion reactors, but we decided it was a security issue and therefore you don't get it. You really think they're going to be honest about that? Says it could be an adversary. Says it could be natural like ball lightning, but these guys are explicitly saying it's not ball lightning. This is not a natural phenomenon that we're seeing in the skies. It's intelligently controlled. And then of course the last option, the narrative. Then uh there's an oligarch or group of oligarchs that are outside uh of working outside of the law or outside of any control uh which would require a lot of coordination and a lot of resources which a lot of them have. Right. uh or it was something else. And we didn't even say aliens, angels, demons. We left that alone. We just said it was something else. It's not oligarchs. I know it's not oligarchs. How do I know that? Because those MH370 videos are a military operation. They're a CIA operation. They're not It's not Iron Man. It's not Tony Stark using the MQ9 Reaper drone. The whole thing is a military operation. This is why I can tell you if there is a breakaway civilization, it's not Tony Stark doing his own operations. They have the full support of the military and the CIA. An operation like MH370 is not something an oligarch pulls off. You can't deceive the United States government teleporting a Boeing 77 without them knowing. That's why I know for sure the answer is actually number one. And they've all dismissed this answer. They've all dismissed this possibility. They said we would know. They would have told us. Unbelievable. I think there actually are that naive. I don't think he's lying. I think what the impression I get from this is that Travis Taylor was never on the inside. Travis Taylor is an outsider who is a intelligent scientist and engineer that they pull in as being the front face of we're investigating ourselves because then he can come out and be honest and say I never saw anything. I They never saw I tried to find dig around and I couldn't find anything. This is how they do it. This is how they hide it. He's that gullible. Exactly. He's gullible enough to believe that they're telling the truth. And then he'll go on the shows and he'll say, "They're not hiding anything. We would have found it. This is what I emailed him about. This is what I confronted him about. I'm going to let it keep going because it gets worse." And that whole list of things got removed from the report. And and I why why would you even cuz we were just showing that we were saying there are all these possible solutions. It's like square root of four is two and minus two, right? That's all we were saying. >> Well, who has the authority to do that? >> He asked this question, by the way, earlier to AJ. He says, "What's the square root of four?" And I knew the answer immediately. And you may say, Ashton, you're just saying that no, I would have immediately said plus or minus two. He gets AJ on it because AJ AJ's not he's not with us chatting the high IQ futurists, but you guys will get the answer. I know it. I believe in you. That's the question, right? >> It's Pentagon. It's got >> Well, so Jay Stratton was a twoar admiral equivalent civilian Daiso defense intelligence senior leader, right? Two star equivalent. Um, what did you just say about Jay Stratton? It's like square<unk> of four is two and minus two, right? That's all we were saying. Well, >> who has the authority to do that? >> That's the question, right? >> It's Pentagon. It's got >> Well, so J Stratton was a twoar admiral equivalent civilian Daiso, defense intelligence senior leader, right? Two star equivalent. >> Holy smokes, chat. The same J Stratton that rolled up to Salvatore Py to shut down his operation is a twostar admiral equivalent on the civilian side in the intelligence community. Wow. Now it's making a whole lot more sense. Please, this is why you listen, chat. This is why you listen even to the people you don't agree with or you don't like because they give you the information. Travis Taylor doesn't see the whole picture. Travis Taylor doesn't see his friends are lying to him. Straight up doesn't see it. Crazy. >> I was a GS15 equivalent. Uh, and we had uh So, there was another >> GS15's no joke either. That's the highest level I think it goes before you start getting into the whatever advanced promotions other another sort of partner uh that was working for what is now space force. It wasn't space force then but um and he was a one-star equivalent. So we had some muscle. >> Yep. >> And we had uh you know the senior members of the and Hipsy uh on board. I mean Rubio was our biggest fan. >> Yeah. >> Rubio is their biggest fan. chat. This actually reminds me there's one more clip that I forgot to play and this actually I think is perfect. Where's the Rubio clip? Uh, it's up here further. Marco Rubio was just asked about UFOs. We're going to bring that back. A conspiracy theory that I believe in. >> Well, I don't Okay. It's not a conspiracy theory. >> Okay. >> Okay. And um but I have long been on this UAP thing. >> And uh and now you know I've sort of surrendered that portfolio to someone else who you know well who is very much in charge of the UAP issue. Just be again it's not what I say is I don't know who it is. I don't know what it is but there are things flying over our military installation and they're not ours and we should look into this be serious about it. And I did that for a long time in the Senate and it had two benefits. The first is that obviously it's a legitimate topic. And the second is whatever the news of the day was, it was controversial and a reporter comes up to you and you say to them, "Look, I don't have time for these questions about politics. Do you realize there's things flying over airspace? You know, we don't know what they are." And the reporter's like, "Oh, what do you know? Tell me more." So, it was extraordinarily effective as a diversionary tactic in addition to Now, that said, it's also a very legitimate topic that we should be covering. So, I don't call it a conspiracy. I don't know if I I don't know the answer to any of it. I'm just, you know, asking the questions about, you know, we should know what's flying over our airspace. But I don't think that's a conspiracy theory as much as it is just, it can be in some sense because people do believe we're covering something up. And I assure you, like in this administration, if we knew like the president would be all over like >> chat chat, I can't love Marco Rubio any more than I already do. A, wholesome chongus. B, he's definitely lying. He definitely knows what those UFOs are all about. This guy was the biggest cheerleader for the UFO topic and now he's like, "Yeah, I just handed that off. I'm done with that." It's cool. You guys should pay attention to it. Yeah, we don't know what they are. Could be anything, guys. He's like the national security adviser to the president and the secretary of state. He pretty much has to know about this these weapons. This is why I love him even more because now I'm like I'm going damn chat. He's going to be able to gaslight us very well. He's exactly what we need. And you say, Ashton, don't you want this revealed? I don't even know if I want it revealed anymore. I'm not I'm kind of on the fence about it. I might root for it being revealed. I might reveal root for it being covered up, you know? I'm just kind of in the middle of the road. I'm just out here doing things, chat. And that reminds me [clears throat] of another post that I was going to show that we are going to show now. The email that I have seen to Marco Rubio and Chuck Schumer actually and several alleged intelligence people. I didn't see the emails of the intelligence people, just the Marco Rubio email. [snorts] You're going to can believe this or you cannot believe it. I personally don't care. But I got this email and I took some screenshots of the email and then I immediately deleted any of the screenshots of the email addresses because I figured if I ever get caught with this email, I don't want there to be any way for them to leak this to anybody. So, take it or leave it for what you will. Let me just read this for you. Considering that this was at least two years ago that I've had this, at least two years ago. And now keep in mind what everybody's talking about. We just heard David Grush. We just heard Travis Taylor both talking about ball lightning, both talking about plasma. Now listen to this. This is supposedly from a government scientist, government physicist to Marco Rubio when he was a senator and Chuck Schumer, who's still a senator. I'm going to read it for you guys. From the IR video, it looks like MH370 was the victim of a covert test of so-called ball lightning weapons I mentioned earlier. The aircraft and its passengers appeared to be engulfed in some sort of cold explosion, which is a direct reference to Tom Bearden created by merging of three flying orbs. Basically, Russian physicists believe magnetic monopoles/micro black holes mbhs form the core of these flying orbs. May be each of these orbs can be remotely generated by a high powered ultra highfrequency micro microwave Tesla scalar wave generators and they can be remotely guided by magnetic scalar waves. A cold explosion can be generated by intersecting these Tesla beams. Yeah. Who says cougal blitz? Yeah. This is what cougall blitz is all about right here. The Soviets spent a fantastic amount of money, tens of billions, on developing such weapons for ASAT and ABM applications. They did a real demo of such weapons off the coast of Japan in 1984. The demo is witnessed by 747 jetliners. One jet liner was checked for radioactive contamination, but blah blah blah something or other. Another more recent spin-off of such weapons is based on explosive induced proton decay. Now, if anybody were to say like, I made this letter up or something, I still don't even really know what this is. I can't make up a letter about something that I don't personally understand. Uh, a more recent spin-off is an explosively induced proton decay, which generates extremely powerful electromagnetic pulses far exceeding energies those produced in a nuclear blast. That sounds scary. Such weapons applications are space-based and constitute the penultimate version of a so-called dome of light weapons in space. No radioactive products have been found so far. So these are all a neutronic nuclear weapons. They don't release neutrons. Therefore, they release no radiation. Wow. Electromagnetic pulsebased weapons. So that was a quick uh email or a quick email from Marco or to Marco Rubio. I don't know if he ever saw it. Maybe he never did. You guys could probably foyer that if you care. I believe I don't know if they keep those, but I think they do. Now, let's go back to Travis Taylor because this is also revealing what comes up here next. Where's the thing? >> Those are the committees. >> Yeah. And and so I I don't understand who would have the power over them to keep us from, you know, putting certain things in the report. Well, but it there's always there's an answer to that. Like, who called you, Marco? Cuz someone made a call. We just need to trace where those calls end, but we we we can never get there. >> Well, you know, this is why I love He's like, shouldn't Marco Rubio be able to figure this out? Like, where'd the call from? Shut up, AJ. You norm this is why you guys don't get the technology. You guys don't understand what's at stake here. This is end of the world technology. This is we control the planet technology. >> Um, Representative Burchett just told me that Tim Tim is a great guy from Knoxville, Tennessee. Um, >> he's a hecklefish fan. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He He's a good guy, man. I So, it's so funny. Uh, uh, he invited Jay Stratton and I to go to his house and brief him on on all this. And so we drove up to Knoxville from Huntsville, Alabama. Jay moved to Huntsville after he after we started hanging out together. He liked he liked it. But um anyway, wait a minute. So it's going to turn out the physicist that showed up at Tim Bchett's house wasn't Hal Pudof. Although maybe it was. Maybe he was with them. It was Travis Taylor and Jay Stratton. How do I know? Cuz he's about to tell the story right now. Wait, we drove up to see um Congressman Burchett and he comes out on the front porch and cut off blue jean shorts. >> Oh no. And his Daisy dudes. >> Cowboy boot. Cowboy [laughter] boots. Right. He's got his firearm on his side and a Tennessee VS golf shirt. Right. And uh and he comes out and uh he takes us in the house, shows us all of his World War II firearms that his dad had got him or what gotten when he was there or whatever. But anyway, and and and we briefed him and he said that when you get there, you you're there, you think you have all these great intentions or whatever, and you get there and realize that there's they they he said they will not let you do anything. And we were like, well, who is they? And he says the system. >> And u I don't know if he actually knows if if there's a they to the system. >> I don't think he knows. I I don't think he I don't think he does. I I think it's basically Oh, everybody said, "Oh, you can't do that. That you can't tell anybody. You can't do that." >> There is a they So J Stratton, Jay Stratton and Travis Taylor are the ones that briefed Berett, but then he's the one telling them that there's a deep state that won't let you take it any further. Of course, because it's about free energy. because this is all about free energy and teleportation. Of course, they're not going to let you take it any further because even if they were to reveal Here's the problem, alien heads, even if they were to reveal aliens, that would that would open a thread that we would pull that would lead to free energy. This is why they can't reveal aliens, even if that is true. Because the first question we're going to ask is what is this? What is the power source? What is the power source of those UFOs? And then the truth is going to come out. We've been hiding space-time manipulation. We've been hiding fusion from the world. They just can't do that. And I think um they just accept it, right? Our elected officials can't even do what we've elected them to do because of whatever this they or this system is. And uh that's probably what you know we call the deep state or you administrative state all these different things that uh one more thing more credit to MH370X more credit to us. We're the ones that tied together the legacy program and the deep state. I don't know if you guys know this but if you go back go back a few years nobody was saying that the people that were covering up the UFO thing were the deep state. That's something that when I came on the scene, I made sure we were going to tie those two things together because the deep state is the same people covering up the free energy. The people that are controlling the planet, controlling the narratives, controlling the perception of reality, those are the same people covering up free energy. It's the CIA, right? And it's important because now we can put these elements and now you hear Travis Taylor saying you can call it the deep state, call it whatever you want. Exactly. It's in the in the political realm, but I'm not talking about politics. I'm just talking about in general humanity wanting to know what their leaders are doing for them. >> Humanity is the problem because whether it's merchant or somebody else, you get a phone call that says, "Do you want to know about aliens? You want to get re-elected?" >> Yeah, I I suspect that's right. >> Yeah. >> I I I I have a feeling that that's exactly right. I mean, I had uh I had push back when when Jay um invited me to be on the UAP task force. push back from >> uh so my boss was a onestar equivalent for the army. So he had been a onestar general equivalent. Uh now I had done some work for the uh three star that was over him before but in a way that he didn't actually know my name. He just knew that there was somebody under him doing work right. Um but uh Jake, we're just going to let this play. At some point in the next couple minutes, he says something here that I want to react to. I just don't have the exact time stamp somehow. called my had to actually literally call my boss and say at the army and say we need Travis for the inter agency task force. It wasn't called JP task force yet. And uh >> is this pre- arrow? >> Oh wait yeah yeah yeah we Jay and I retired and then Arrow became okay. Right. >> Uh so uh we we retired because we >> So this is interesting too because he's also presenting this narrative that Jay Stratton and himself were trying to figure out the legacy program. Why are there so many X-Files people that are supposedly trying to figure out the legacy program? Number one question. Number two question, how come they always seem to fall short? They always seem to come out and go, "We investigated the legacy program. We investigated the alien UFO anti-gravity technology and we just couldn't find it. Sorry, just not there. It doesn't exist. Must be aliens every time." This is juicy. Yeah. >> Realized we couldn't get anywhere. Right. Right. We kept getting doors shut in our face. So uh anyway u my boss was like well why do you need Travis you know why do you need him and he he said he's and so Jay told it's funny Jay's exact words to him was because Travis is the only guy that can understand the physics and knows how to build That's exactly what he told him because you know did you hear what he just said right there? Why did they want Travis Taylor on the UAP task force? Because he understands the physics and he knows how to build Those those who things sound familiar, those are the same things that the defense contractors want, the black projects want. They want people that know the physics. They don't care if you've got academic credentials. They want people that know the physics and you know how to build things. If you have those things, you have the skill set they're looking for. That happens to be the same skill set they're looking for when they're trying to figure out the phenomenon, too. I I grew up building stuff and and >> we all watch it on TV [laughter] >> and and I and our goal was to figure out if there was a heritage legacy reverse engineering program and to get into it and see why there was no progress. There you go. Well, he just said it right there. Their goal was to try to find the legacy program, get into it, whatever the hell that means, and find out where that why there's no progress. That's kind of a loaded statement. Who said there's no progress? Are we just assuming there's no progress? Is there a reason why we should think we would know if there's progress? What exactly does alien technology look like? How would we know? This is my first problem is it seems like his whole mindset going into this is totally off. So, red flags and and and and because here's the thing. I I briefed all the way up to the White House. If there is a legacy program, who's doing the work? Because I know all I don't necessarily know personally all of the physicists and engineers that should be working on, but I know who they are. And I know that they're not because I see what they are doing. >> You know that they're not. >> Yes. and I see what they are doing. And that's when um Dave Grush kind of came along. That right there shows the absolute hubris of man, doesn't it? I know they're not working on alien technology because I know everything they are working on. And this to me was the big reveal of the entire interview. Either Travis Taylor is a good liar, very good liar. He seems very genuine in this interview. He could be lying. I'm not ruling it out. There are good liars. I've seen them playing poker. Or he's a useful idiot. He's been taken for a ride. They've been lying to him and lying to his face for decades. His friends have. This is the hardest thing they would say. And this is what I told Travis Taylor in the email. I just told him the truth. I said, "Your friends have been lying to you for a very long time." And that's how they're able to hide it. I think Travis Taylor is not lying. I think he was never brought in. I think he legitimately tried to investigate this. And I think he legitimately didn't find anything. And I think they legitimately are hiding it. And I think he's not lying here either. He says he knows all the people. He's connected to Hal Pudof. He's working with Jay Stratton. He's working directly with these guys. There is no possible way that he's not directly interacting with people in the black pro in the black projects. No way. He has to be directly interacting with them. We know that from Salvador Py and myself insinuating that the people that wrote the papers in the durs and in uh advanced propulsion concepts, they're they're the engineers. He knows these people. So that means they're lying to him. We know for sure they're lying to him because we saw them teleport a plane with some animatronic fusion reactors. So the question is, is he lying or is he getting used ultimately? We'll he'll have to figure that out and we'll have to figure that out. >> So let me let me uh you know I'll probably get ahead of you, but you are. But it's fun. Uh >> last thing I want to say about Grush here. I think he goes he talks about it around here. >> Let's see. >> And then uh he got a job offer to go to um NGA as a civil servant uh national geospacecial agency and uh u so but he was still uh also partially under control. >> They're talking about Grush right now, David Grush, the other person that we just commented on >> from the other leader of the UAP task force. And while I was at NGA as a civil servant, uh he was asking some of these people the questions and somebody didn't like it and they had the inspector general start investigating him. And that's that kind of brings everybody up to the date of the stories that Davis told. Uh but what I I just wanted to to and I want to be clear about something I think people don't understand the way he tells it is that u to my knowledge he's never seen anything with his own eyes. That's that's what I understand. the way he has. So, right there, that was the other big thing I wanted to point out. You got all these people saying, "We got to rally around David Grush. He's trying to tell us the truth. He hasn't even seen anything with his own eyes. What are you talking about? If you're going to rally around David Grush, you might as well rally around me. I've actually got real evidence that we can corroborate. Whether or not you think the MH370 videos are real or not, it doesn't even matter. Just get the government to release the MH370 files, which they have regardless of the videos, and it'll prove the videos are real. That's all we need. That's going to get us way further than anything David Grush is going to do. No disrespect. I like David Grush. This is just delusional to think that David Grush is going to get us somewhere on this. And and under, you know, discussions with me in a skiff. I've known Dave for a long time. Uh it's yeah, this guy told me this, right? And he's the guy that worked on it, he says. And then so then our goal is get those people to say these things under oath. But we getting them to say it under oath is a hard thing. And so that's I think that's why Dave would at least went and said it under oath that hey these guys told me these things. >> Yeah. I mean dude having some guy go under oath saying this guy told me these things. What what is that supposed to do? That doesn't tell us anything. That's like Candace Owens saying I got secret sources but I can't tell you. Okay. What does that mean? Honestly, there is a lot of parallels. And this is why I bring these topics up side by side. Don't you see this is the same thing Candace Owens is doing. I could choose to believe this with no evidence whatsoever, but it's all secondhand sources and it's all people that should know that are saying that they don't think it's real, but we know it is. This is why I'm so blackpilled on this topic. A, people are stupid. B, people that are smart are either lying to me straight to my face or they're stupid themselves, too. How are we ever supposed to get the truth of this technology out when the people that are investigating it are either lying to us or they're being deceived? That's why I say this topic, this is our last thought on this. They've got contingency plans on top of contingency plans to keep this hidden. They're not afraid of this coming out and they're not afraid of us because they've been planning for these eventualities for years, decades. This probably was not the first time this stuff leaked out. You got to believe this stuff has leaked out many times before in the form of Bob Lazar, maybe Mark Mcandelish, maybe Stanley Meyer, bunch of different ways and it always gets suppressed. Cold Fusion every single time. A big part of me just wishes I could just get plugged back into the matrix. Chat, the steak might be fake, but it's delicious. I'd rather just not even know about a lot of this. But we fight on. We fight on chat like heroes do. Let's go to the super chats. Thank you everybody in the pill chat. Thank you for that huge raid from redpilled78. Appreciate you, brother. Nice to see you again. Been a long time. Thank you everybody in the rumbled chat. Rumbled chat was popping off tonight. Thank you for watching through all of our uh forbidden topics. Candace Owens Jetpacks and um what was the third one? Crap. Oh uh daylight savings time. Brutal voice for good says caught red-handed and still doubling down. Shameless. Appreciate you, man. And uh double double the chat. Appreciate that. Cheers. It's central time, guys. Thank you very much. Appreciate your those super chats. My channel says, "Can we talk about orbs now? Hopefully you got your dose of orbs, guys. a light dose of orbs tonight. Moose G7 says, "Soilent green, CIA favorite food according to John Kiraau." Guys, John Kiraau, I would not trust him either. Something's not right about that guy. Uh, he's clout chasing and he's kind of doing the work of our adversary. I don't think he's super malicious, but I also don't think he's uh working acting in entirely good faith either. So, be careful of John Kiraau. If he was serious, you would think he would want to re reach out to me to reveal MH370. Like, this guy hates the CIA. The CIA ruined this guy's life, but he doesn't want to talk about the videos that show the CIA using super advanced technology on the plane. H. Isn't that a little suspicious? This is the same vibes I get from Hal Pudof. Hal Pudof supposedly wants to reveal the UFOs for everybody. Has all these scientific papers, but he doesn't want to talk about these videos that prove all his theories right that are going to get him a Nobel Prize. Isn't that weird? CIA guy doesn't want to talk about a CIA operation. Kind of weird, huh? What they say is once in the CIA, you never leave. follow-up super chat says, "Watch that debate. It was painful. It was like waterboarding. It was a painful debate, but it was necessary." Just like me reviewing all of that evidence and all the details of it were necessary. We have to break down the psychological propaganda that has been built up so that hopefully these people can rehabilitate and see the truth. Unfortunately, I think it was mostly on deaf ears. Thank you for that super chat though. Chaotic good said some of us are still normal chat. Yes, I don't mean that all women should just lose the right to vote. I'm just saying I see why women didn't have the right vote the right to vote before. I still think it was the right choice to let women vote, but I'm just saying if I could give up my vote so that Candace Owens would not have a vote, I would do it in a heartbeat. See, that proves I'm not sexist or misogynistic. It's not about sex. I would give up my own right to vote just so that Candace Owens doesn't have a right to vote because I think that that would balance out to be a net positive. Anyway, cool. Voice for good says, "Real is true. True is power. Power is freedom." Chat, I was working on this. I It's not finished. Ashton Forbes's multi-point plan to fix America. I haven't really worked out pretty much any of my points. I know that number one is goodness. We need goodness in America to be the most goodest nation in the world. And I know that number two is essence. Check. essence as in moisture is the essence of water or moisture is the essence of wetness and wetness is the essence of beauty. This is very deep. Very deep. This is how we fix America. By the way, just follow this multi-point plan. Goodness, essence, and let's just throw aliens in there. Aliens. Goodness. Essence aliens. Very moist, very wet, very beautiful chat. [clears throat] Very deep. Mike M says, "Damn, Ashton streams on fire tonight. Controversy and truth bombs without even wearing the shades and avoiding dropping fbombs, chat. I'm trying to get better. We're working on it. And I'm trying not to crash out as hard. It's not as entertaining. I know. I know. But we got to do it. We got to go mainstream. We got to get those Disney bucks. We got to do what we got to do. Disclosure boner says, "Dr. Travis Taylor, my narrative." Whoa. Travis Taylor doesn't deserve those strays, chat. I actually have not seen anything to believe that Travis Taylor is covering this up, but he is connected to all the people that are probably covering this up. So, I would love to talk to Travis Taylor. In fact, I would love to talk to any of these guys. And honestly, if we're going back to the Candace Owens thing, I would love to be in either position. Either grilling any of these engineers or people that claim they were little X-files moulder skully dynamic duo. Put me on the hot. put me with them on the hot seat and we'll get disclosure or confront me, get Eric Weinstein, get uh get whoever else you want, Mick West, whoever debunker, and you come at me over the MH370 videos. I won't even charge you $300,000 and I guarantee you I'll provide evidence as opposed to just, "Well, I feel like this. How dare you question me? Okay, Depot dog, what's up, brother? I published a paper on density stratification theory which explains the cosmos. Take an opportunity to check it out and comment. I'm publishing here because I think it's safer. Check it out right there, guys. J RJ and uh I give no promises on anything, but I will try to check it out. R.J. Selmott chat, check out his paper. There you go. Thank you very much, good sir. I appreciate it. Timothy Foster says, "More has been learned from Ashton and fellow for Orbsies. Just a fact, chat." We try, chat, and I'm jetlagged. It's been a long week, so that's going to be it for me for tonight. Thank you. Big shout out to everybody in MH370X. Big shout out to Douglas Miller and Gabriel Diaz. Check out the Gabriel Diaz conversation if you have not checked it out. I apologize for the audio. I swear next time we have a talk I will fix that. And lastly, Tom Voluone chat Sunday Tom Voluone interview will drop part one. It's I don't know almost two hours of two of the smartest people in zero point energy going back and forth. 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