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Okay, fine. Patents are real. How How do I explain this to the the academic physicist? How do I explain this to Avi Loeb when he comes back and he says, "Well, sure, you know, wormholes could be real, but like we would need negative energy." So, how do you explain negative energy to people to Congressman Jesse Myerson and go ahead. >> Simple. It's actually I'll use something that the great Herman David Froneing, he went by David Froneing, but his true name was Herman Froneing. How interesting. Anyway, yeah, great man. University of Adelaide. Anyway, Herman David Froneing, negative energy density conditioned vacuum. What truly does First of all, what's energy density? Pressure. What's a negative pressure? It's a suction pressure. That's exactly what you would get if you would break space-time locally. You get an area, a pressure gradient. It would suck you in. Did you ever see that uh Do you remember the Imperial Cruiser? The great Vader. Remember when all of a sudden the the the cruiser would as if sucked into the vacuum as if That's exactly what happens. That's what the conditioned vacuum is all about. You don't need this abstract notion of negative mass, hence negative energy density because of E = mc² No. Space-time pressure, suction pressure. A negative pressure, that's all it is. It's a suction pressure. It sucks you in into a different medium, which would in this case, upon breaking the Schwinger limit, quite possibly would be another dimension. >> So, you're saying in order to get the negative energy, which is just a pressure force, that we have to get break the Schwinger limit, which is using positive energy to get to a certain energy density threshold, and then the vacuum >> the vacuum. >> Which would break the vacuum, basically. >> And by the way, whenever you hear people like Davis or Puthoff say that we cannot engineer that they have spoken Davis and Millis have discussed it in Frontiers of Propulsion Science, which could be called the Bible of quote-unquote exotic physics. There's nothing Yes. That book. It holds a great place in my library as well. >> Yeah, I I love that book. You should see how many thumb Oh my god, how many books I'm old-fashioned. >> How many of these guys do you think are black project engineers? >> Mine has equations on the margins and stuff. Anyway, uh oh, all of them. All of them, and some of them also likely are part of the big list, if not all of them. Anyway. >> Looking at you, John Kramer. I'm looking at you. >> Oh, the transactional interpretation of >> I mean, he's the one like EPR guy in the entire book, and he wrote one of the Dirds. And like when I listen to him, he's like, "Yeah, other people have researched the ER and EPR concepts, and they mostly get everything wrong." And you're like, "Okay, this guy knows what he's talking about." >> Yeah. >> Oh, >> of them say yes, even though the physics is possible, we have not achieved engineering capabilities. It's like saying you cannot achieve a one coulomb of electrical charge. Nonsense. If you use electro- electrodeposited layers of nickel cobalt oxides, metal oxides, we talk about 4,000 F per gram capacitance. Remember Q equals CV? Very simple formula. I've always operated with simple because simple is good. That's the PI's idea. Simple is good. Simplify as much as you can. Anything complex in my opinion results in redundancy. Simple. Keep it simple. The simpler the better. You will see me >> alien We don't need alien materials for this then? Is that what you're saying? We don't need alien materials. >> Absolutely not. No. You think the aliens did it? What you think they have a completely different moscovium on their world? Their moscovium is stable. Come on. No, bro. They got unobtainium. Unob- They got unobtainium on their world. >> Unobtainium. Unobtainium. Yeah. The atomic number varies with based on locality. Anyway. Yeah. >> Yeah, of course the laws of physics work differently depending on where you're at in the universe. That's how that's how this works, I think. Uh But isn't that funny that >> the laws of physics evolve. It's quite possibly they change with time. >> Well, so going back to disclosure, what do you think they should do? I mean, how do we need to talk >> Right? The super intelligence dictates physics, brother. I truly believe the super If anything, if anyone can break physics is the super intelligence. Again, it is the super force at the super density condition that results in a super bang due to the plasma nature of our observable universe results in a super intelligence. One day I'll be proven correct on this. >> I mean, I don't doubt it. >> be a great thing. >> I'm sure there's a super intelligence. Why would there not be one? I mean, that's >> try to mimic it in the lab. Hence, ASI, artificial super intelligence. >> I think it's probably the natural technological evolution is super intelligence. And what I mean by that is like an internet of minds that are just connected, right? Like that's that's what a hive mind's going to be. And then which is going to be done like through computers and that are simulating biological intelligence, probably. >> Imagine drone warfare with a hive mind. With a with a hive mind inside the drone the drone swarm. There's no way to get to it, but you have to get to it in order to take down the drone swarm. How do you do it? >> You don't. >> Anyway. >> That's why people got to watch Pantheon. People I like it's a cartoon it's an animated show, but Pantheon goes through like this idea of uploaded intelligence where people like upload their minds and and become a computer's program, an AI. And that's like how they simulate intelligence. And then the thing it becomes really scary really quickly because of the power of just one super intelligence can, you know, entire countries, uh destroy their economy, the warfare too. I mean just the one thing they do in the show which is crazy is that they like they frame somebody else. Like you can have one person fire a missile off and have it, you know, it's a friendly fire incident, but then they get blamed, right? And it turns out it was like Russia that hacker that did it. So, the AI thing is a whole other >> Couple a drone swarm with AGI and warfare will never will be the same. Now, couple that with the idea of weapons of time, which you and I have already discussed on one of your prior podcasts, and you will never ever lose a war. Imagine winning a war even before that war is fought. Now, that is power. Real power, brother. >> Yeah, the reason why I push back on that two-fold. Number one, they would have teleported those videos off the internet. They would have teleported me. I shouldn't exist if that's the case. And number two, I maybe John If John Kramer's not lying, then I think retro causality is going to be prevented by nature because nature's just trying to be make sure that we have continuity. Now, you can still cheat and you can still do a lot of stuff that's time travel-related, for sure. But, I think it's going to prevent like complete control over this timeline. Although, it might It'll still let you manipulate the timeline, for sure. But, I don't know. >> At least the temporal rejuvenation chamber, at least we should play with this idea of of delta T on the order of minus delta omega divided by omega squared. At least we should play with this idea. All right? >> Well, I definitely think >> minus delta T on [clears throat] the order of delta omega divided by omega squared, where really omega squared it could be the uh frequency of spin and or vibration squared. Again, speaking to this nonlinearity that has the possible {quote} {unquote} superradiance modality of breaking space-time. That's how you're going to do it, nonlinearity of vibrational frequency. Not necessarily spin. Vibrational frequency is important. And you should use a nonlinear medium, and you well know what that is. So, anyway. >> Classroom. >> Yeah. >> Fusion. What do you think about that? >> Brother, you and I, man. You and I should be on one of these really, really, really, really important podcasts. Tucker Carlson should have you and I on. Really. But, he believes in demonology, and I'm saying someone of that nature, someone of his repute. Rogan, for example. But, Rogan I mean, for God's sake, what sort of mind is that that is is is is willing to listen to someone like uh You mentioned this individual, Corbell, or whatever, and not have you on to make up his own mind? >> Mhm. >> So, you tell me that Anyway, it makes no sense. >> But it's not me, it's you that I honestly should be People should be talking to. So, do you have Do they have like you on a blacklist or >> What? They think I'm fearful, brother? Didn't you hear uh Didn't you hear Jesse Michel? I mean I mean Brother Jesse, come on, man. If you ever watch this, really, I I really struck you as someone fearful. We had so many laughs, especially after the the the filming was over. We had so many laughs and I even gave him my F-35 hat. >> Well, hold on. We need to be unambiguous here. So, would you go on Joe Rogan if he were to ask? Cuz Jesse knows Joe Rogan. >> I would have to ask the Navy for for permission to do that because Rogan, you know, once I go on Rogan, it will never be the same. Rogan will most likely be more and more interested in the possibility of real physics. And I would I would right off the bat say, "You want to see experimental verification of this, or rather something that's already out there? Look at the three orbs of Ashton Forbes that he's been speaking to the physics of multiple I mean, how many have you had up to now? What? In the What? 500 or something like that? How You've had a lot of livestreams out there. >> that and they won't allow you on. You had to pretend like you're not going to talk about it, and then you drop it at the last minute. Be like >> Brother, I'm not >> not Zubi. That ain't what it's all about. >> Listen to me. I never betray my friends. So, if they were to tell me right off the bat, "You come on, but you don't speak of Ashton Forbes," I'd go, "Fuck yourself." >> [laughter] >> And your pod. Uh Yeah, what a Yeah. >> No, but I think it's it's important though that we demystify your patents and the questions around them and then what people are saying about them. And one of the things has been that, you know, you're afraid to talk about them. I mean, I would say you have a healthy fear of the people that have been covering this up like any >> I mean, I'm careful. I believe in EQ. We're not here to educate and enlighten the enemy, especially now that we we have these interesting people trying to encroach on our freedoms. We have to be very careful with the enemy.