Bigger Than a Nuke, Never Used

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The host, Ashton Forbes, analyzes a patent by Salvatore Pais regarding a laser-augmented turbojet engine, interpreting it as a fusion reactor utilizing an electro-optical trap. Forbes argues that Pais’s use of fiber optic lasers and YBCO superconductors suggests a capability to manipulate spacetime and generate gravity beams, which Forbes claims are classified for military application. He posits that this technology is significantly more powerful than nuclear weapons, explaining its suppression through controlled disclosure and vague patent language designed to bypass public scrutiny while securing government contracts.

The discussion expands to include a live call with Salvatore Pais, where Forbes questions the classification of a 'Caesar tank' equipped with plasma shielding. Pais confirms the device generates high-energy electromagnetic fields but maintains it is a ground-based tank, though Forbes speculates the underlying geometry and plasma physics could apply to aerial drones or orbs, potentially linking it to the MH370 disappearance.

The host concludes that the technology’s ability to condition electromagnetic beams into gravity beams and create plasma shields represents a breakthrough in propulsion and defense, currently hidden from the public.

Key Claims (6)

Speculative

Forbes interprets Pais's laser-augmented turbojet patent, which uses lasers and an 'electro-optic trap' to confine energy and raise combustion-chamber temperatures, as in effect a small fusion reactor; Pais himself does not use the word fusion.

Evidence: Salvatore Pais patent interview

Speculative

Forbes interprets Pais's remark that 'the secret version of this would knock you out of your socks' as meaning classified fiber lasers can produce a conditioned electromagnetic 'gravity beam', acknowledging he is 'putting words in his mouth'; he also suggests YBCO superconductors may couple strongly to spacetime.

Evidence: Forbes's interpretation of a Salvatore Pais interview

Speculative

Forbes argues that the laser-plasma confinement technology in Pais's patents is classified largely because it has direct nuclear-weapons applications and is 'bigger than nuclear weapons', which is also why it is not used in conflicts.

Evidence: No source cited; speaker's own argument

Speculative

Patents are written vaguely (e.g., 'communication device') to ensure approval while hiding the true disruptive nature of the technology from the public.

Evidence: Tom Valone interview reference

Speculative

Forbes suggests the spherical orbs (and triangular craft) may look the way they do because fusion depends on geometry, so anyone's craft might look alike; appearance alone therefore cannot show origin, and he says only the MH370 context shows the orbs are human technology.

Evidence: No source cited; speaker's own argument

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Salvatore Pais describes the 'Caesar', a main battle tank protected by high-energy electromagnetic field generating armor, which he says on a live call would act as a plasma shield; Forbes argues that with such a bubble a vehicle would need neither conventional armor nor to stay on the ground.

Evidence: Salvatore Pais live call

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K Y S know your stuff, Redditors. This is [snorts] why we do it. We got to get them to know their stuff. >> within the the the patent itself. But within a confined, basically think of it as an electro-optic trap. that >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Yatzee right off the bat, chat. And yes, I kind of cheated. Kind of already had it ready to go here.

Salvatore Pais, rewind. is talking about his turbo fan engine here that he's turned into a little fusion reactor using lasers. He doesn't say the word fusion here. He just says laser-augmented turbojet. But he basically says that you can heat up this area with laser. And I'm going, well, that is literally exactly what fusion is doing. It's exactly what fusion is.

But then he said you can treat it like an electro-optical trap. I think he said more details already in this interview about these patents than in any other one. An electro-optical trap, that would be like a mirror. Right? You just say, let's boil it down, chat. Let's bring it down to the normies.

Electro-optical trap, Ashton, what the hell does that mean? Well, that means your laser enters. Your laser is just electromagnetic wave of just one wavelength, right? Normal light is all different kinds of wavelengths. A laser is one wavelength. Okay?

So, your laser beam enters this region, area. And then what happens? It starts bouncing around. And if if it bounces around within this region then you would say that it's trapped in that region. And how do you do that? Yes, refraction.

Basic refraction. You can trap it. So, plasma itself we learned plasma itself, if it's dense enough, compact enough, it can act as a mirror. So, plasma can actually cause the laser beam to be internally trapped inside of it. Fun stuff, guys. The reason why I bring this up, definitely definitely fusion related.

And also think about this. You should be wondering, "Hmm, would they use this concept in nuclear weapons?" Yes. Yes, Chad. A lot of this technology has direct applications to nuclear weapons. That's part of the reason why, if not the biggest reason why it's all classified, why it's being covered up.

A lot of people wonder why they cover this up. Why don't they use it? Because it's bigger than nuclear weapons. Like, people are like, "Why don't they use this on Iran?" Why don't we use a nuclear weapon on Iran? Why don't we use something a million times more powerful than a nuclear weapon on Iran?

Is that a serious question? Probably for the same reasons we don't use a regular nuke on them. Guys, if you had nuclear weapons, how come you don't use them on Iran? >> [snorts] >> Think about that. Think about if I if I my premise was, "Hey, man, guys, nuclear weapons are fake, dude. If you really had nuclear weapons, you'd be using them on Iran and on Russia." Yeah, man.

You got it. Okay, let's get going. >> keeps this energy confined so as to increase the temperatures within the combustion chamber. >> So, that was again 2004. And I I remember when you know there was there was there was a big change. They started to come up with more powerful diode-based lasers, fiber optic connectors, things like that. >> Remember the YBCO? Actually, that's the atrium barium copper oxide that we were talking about. The type two superconductor.

Yes. But, they had um specially pumped fiber optic lasers that could be used um very very high electromagnetic energy fluxes. >> Okay, let me help you out two things. >> There was a time that >> Number Okay, so he's dropping some bombs right here. Number one, he says YBCO, you should always in your mind connect the letters YBCO with Ning Li and Eugene Podkletnov. How were those guys doing anti-gravity? They were spinning YBCO superconductors. Gary Stevenson says this superconducting magnetic energy storage device might be able to couple strongly with space-time if you have a high permittivity material.

That high permittivity material, YBCO superconductor. Boom. Mic drop. There you go. So, YBCO potentially is one of the ways to better couple to space-time. Remember that.

And then he starts talking about the lasers. Fiber lasers. Some [ __ ] I had never heard of. It's just a I guess a fiber optic laser. So, again, a fiber optic laser is just going to be like trapped light. And there was a guy that was just talking to Ryan Graves about these fiber lasers.

Check out the last live stream on Monday and we're picking it up. Here we go. >> I had researched this incredibly carefully. My God, I think I read at least 120 papers to get this one written properly. It was my first. I had no idea. And the the patent attorney that Northrop Grumman provided, as a matter of fact, this whole thing came about a letter of innovation came from headquarters. Think of something new that combines modern state-of-the-art technologies and could prove disruptive in its effects.

Trust me, the secret version of this would knock you out of your socks twice. >> Dude. Is Sal saying what I think he's saying right here? He is definitely saying what I think he's saying right here. He's saying these fiber lasers can achieve very high energy densities. He's saying these fiber lasers are basically the secret tool to manipulate space-time. And then he's saying if you saw the classified version, brother.

What? I know exactly what the classified version is, dude. Imagine that we have a laser pointer. Our fiber laser is a laser pointer. Now imagine my laser pointer is a gravity beam. Now imagine I have a laser pointer and I press the button and it's a gravity beam.

How is that possible? Because they can condition the electromagnetic beam. Specially conditioned electromagnetic beam. How big do you think the wiggler or whatever it is needs to be to turn that electromagnetic beam into a gravity beam? Tiny, chat. They can make these gravity beams as small as they can make a laser.

Which is really, really damn small nowadays. So, that's what Salvatore Pais is saying right here. Yes, I'm putting words in his mouth. That's what I do, chat. He's basically saying they have a secret version of these fiber lasers that makes a gravity beam. Okay?

You got it? If that's too hard for you to understand, check out Terrence Barrett. Check out David Froning. >> Do away with a box. No need for the box. It's a completely open system. Let your mind truly permeate the cosmos.

Remember the idea of the super intelligence? What if you were to mind melt with the super intelligence itself? You wrote a paper on this. Exactly what Thomas Alva truly meant when he said under conditions far from equilibrium, a plasma can and possibly shall achieve consciousness. >> Yeah. Yeah. Hey, this So, this is This was number one.

So, let me go >> A far from equilibrium plasma shall achieve consciousness. Is that true? Is that what he says? I'm going to Google this. Is that a true thing by Alfven Hans or whatever? Hm, interesting. [clears throat] People are obsessed with this consciousness thing.

Personally, I don't care, guys. You might say, "Ash, why don't you care?" I I don't know, man. I don't really care about the meaning of life, either. I mean, it's just not that important to me. The The meaning of life to me is this, the fact that I'm living.

But, everybody seems to care about all this. I will say, I'm pretty sure they're right. I'm pretty sure what Sal just said about mind melding with the cosmic intelligence. Wouldn't that explain people that seemingly like wake up with information? There's all these instances where people suddenly know stuff they shouldn't be able to know. They learn a language they shouldn't be able to learn.

They learn like physics. Like Dave Ross is an example where he says he met a blue alien and the next thing you know is this guy is talking and understands scalar physics intuitively. I wouldn't believe except where I've been interacting with him and I don't understand how he knows all that stuff. Other than maybe he's like the get out, you know, body snatcher. It's possible. Don't rule out.

Anyway, point being, maybe there is a cosmic intelligence. Hm, I can't rule it out. >> So, now this is number one. >> But, it got my juices flowing. >> It did. Well, also, guys, just real quick, if there is a cosmic intelligence, isn't that proof of God? How can there be a cosmic intelligence and it not be God? To me, I mean, look, I'm just going to throw it out there. It is God.

To me, it is God. Proof of God. Absolute proof of God. You're like, "Oh, yeah, there's this this like cosmic intelligence that permeates all of space and time." Hold on, chat. Full screen.

Guys, tell me if this sounds familiar to you. There's a cosmic intelligence, all-knowing, timeless cosmic intelligence permeating all space and time. Oh, yeah, that sounds a little bit like hmm, what's that word for? God? Oh, it sounds like God. It sounds exactly like God.

This is why I'm saying physics proves God is real. >> Did >> They came First of all, I learn how to uh how to uh how to do um a patent, how how you bring in all the uh known art, and and then how you expand on it, how how you make the claims, how you write the abstract introduction, and so forth. The body The claims are very important because that's the first thing that that a patent examiner goes to, the claims. A lot of them don't even read the art. Hardly look even at the schematics.

They look at the claims [clears throat] first, and then they consult the schematic. Some of them don't even read the body of the work. >> Leave it or not. Yeah. >> Because they're trying to increase their office action rate. >> Chad, if you haven't watched, watch the interview with Tom Valone. I'm going to try to get him back on the podcast in a week or two cuz I want to go more into this like patent examiner thing. I think being a patent examiner is so important if you want to understand the technology that's suppressed.

And when you listen to Tom Valone, you realize this guy is extremely intelligent when it comes to understanding how the patent process works. What people are looking for, what he's looking for. And they are looking for these violations of violations of physics. The reason why you bring it up is you have to realize the people that know about the technology, they also know how the patent examiners act. So when they're trying to patent something that they know is real, that they know the public doesn't know is real, they know they have to word it in a vague way.

They know exactly how they have to word it so that it'll be approved. Because they don't care if people believe. They just need to get the patent approved so that they can make money selling it to Lockheed Martin or Northrop Grumman or Boeing. They don't care how the patent gets approved. They just need it approved for legal reasons so they can make a whole bunch of money off of it cuz they know it's real, Northrop Grumman knows it's real. They don't care if the public In fact, they like it the public doesn't know it's real.

That's why they call it, for example, communication device. How Puthoff's 1990s patent for quantum communication is just called communications device? What the [ __ ] Guys, that's your breakthrough technology is just called communications device? Yes. Exactly because he knows nobody's going to question something just called communications device instead of magical communication technology that bypasses space and time. And yes, people debunked his patent and they rage on his patent.

They said it was pseudo science. And now, 25 years later, we know it's all real. 30 years later, in fact, we know it's all real. But back then, they all thought it was fake cuz they're idiots. It's funny. Quantum tech was thought to be pseudo science 30 years ago and now it's the number one priority for the United States government.

Number one priority. Across the board in the military, quantum technology. >> So, it's it's a big >> Yeah. Let me go over to the electromagnetic field generator. >> Yes. >> So, this was I think this was number two, right? >> Yes. Look at figure three. We'll talk more about figure three. >> Okay. Hemispherical shell. >> It has to something of this nature.

Not exactly this I have something else in mind now that would actually envelop the entirety of the main battle tank. I have a high energy electromagnetic field generating armor for tanks to basically protect the tank from top attack. And once again, the main battle tank becomes viable on the back >> Chat, he came up with a way where now it doesn't have to be a half shield. Now he found out a way where the plasma could be entirely around it now. Wow. Wow, chat.

I'm not even mad. I'm just impressed. I'm impressed. I want people to steal the technology from MH370 and incorporate it into their [ __ ] And that actually brings me great joy. It brings me great joy. I'm not going to lie to you.

It's like a parent watching their child grow up. You're like, "Oh, look at this. Oh, you you've grown up and you've you've incorporated my teachings into your work. It's great. I love it." >> field as the main chariot of the gods. Imagine an impregnable tank.

I call it the Caesar. Designed particular with this high-energy electromagnetic field generating armor in mind. A tank of this nature not only would it be impregnable, it could once again conquer the battlefield. So it would what was meant for the tank to do in the first place. Anyway. >> Bro, what are you talking about tanks, dude? Tanks.

How about drones, bro? Tanks. Why Why is my anti-gravity craft ever going to be limited to the ground? It's not. It's not. It's going to be some Jarvis orbs.

And this is what I'm saying is that it's hard to tell like if I if that wasn't a black project where we're watching them teleport MH370, I would say there's no way to tell what the origin of those orbs. None at all. In fact, the only way I know that's human technology is cuz I know the circ- the context proves that's humans doing that to humans. It may be that the geometry that's required cuz fusion's all about geometry. It may be that geometry is universal. It might be that everybody's plasma orbs look the same.

They might have to look all like spheres in order for the technology to work because it's all based on geometry. That may also be true for the triangles. The reason why you see those triangles may just be a matter of geometry and that's how do you get the physics to work is geometry. So they made the triangles may just be a matter of well, that's because that's how the physics works.

And if that's the case and how do you differentiate between our triangle geometry physics and their triangle geometry craft? >> Yeah, so with this I mean again you were proposing a highly charged >> of the Caesar tank could not achieve its objectives. That's how powerful this armor could be. >> So this generator though >> Caesar tank. Okay, you get plus one for that. Caesar tank is a dope ass name. We're going with that. Just a great name in general plus it's got the double overlap.

We're going to be Julius Caesar too. Caesar tank, make it so chat. We're going to make the Caesar tank fly though. We're making the tank fly. The thing is if you have a bubble you don't need armor anymore either. So it's like the moment you realize you have a you know what you know what that's it.

I'm just going to have to invite Sal back on. I realize I'm sitting here arguing with a dude who I is like just a phone call text message away. Like I'm actually just going to argue with him about this in person. We're going to have to have a uh anti-gravity tank debate needs to occur. >> Well, the the idea behind this one was to produce basically these these extraordinarily intense EM fields, right? And if you read the patent it does describe spherical, hemispherical, and disc-shaped configurations um you know, along with electrostatic generators, motors, and internal power >> We're going to call him now.

I'm pretty triggered chat. I'm pretty triggered. You think he's going to pick up? >> Hey. >> Hey Sal, what's going on man? >> What's up man? >> Yo, quick Yo, quick question for you. Um by the way, there's like few hundred people watching right now, but how come your tank how come you got a anti-gravity tank with a plasma bubble that's deflecting all the art stuff, but you still call it like a tank?

Like why does it have to drive on the ground, and why does it still need armor if you got a plasma bubble that stops everything coming in? >> Brother, control electromagnetic energy flux. You don't have to achieve Schwinger limit. There are other modalities. In this case, it would just be a plasma shield. >> Mhm. >> Only it get only if it gets to values like 10 to the 25, you know, 10 to the 33 W/m².

That kind of flux would bring to a breaking of the Schwinger limit. >> But so is this thing really a tank then, or is this just like a drone like an orb flying around in the sky? >> Oh, oh, it is a tank. I envision it as a tank. I like this idea of of high energy electromagnetic field generating arm. It's a tank. >> Okay. Well, Okay. >> It could be other things as well. >> Okay. Well, I was just wanted to call and say hi.

We're reviewing your video right now, and everybody says you're awesome in the chat. So just wanted to give you a shout-out, brother. >> Uh you're awesome, brother. Thank you very much for this. Don't forget to expose. Please, don't forget me. >> Oh, of course, won't. Talk to you soon, brother.

Later. >> All right, brother. Take care. Bye.