The Department of Energy Has Been Building This for Decades

Robert Bussard, J. Allen Hynek, Jacques >> He starts the clip with Robert Bussard. Inertial electrostatic confinement fusion. >> Vallee, Edward Teller, Stanislaw Ulam, uh Paul Dirac. Uh he was the winner of the Hermann Oberth award medal and very close friends with him, very close friends with uh um Edward Teller as well. >> Friedwart Winterberg was very close friends with Edward Teller. How how was Friedwart Winterberg teaching at some random school in Reno? He's in some random school in Reno and I'm learning these black project engineers with more connections than anybody are just like it's almost like they just picked where they wanted to live.

It's actually kind of bizarre. Where like they're at these it's not like they're all at the Ivy League schools, you know? It's not like they were like, "Hey, I want to go be the professor emeritus at Harvard or Yale or Princeton." They're like, "Nah, I want to be the professor emeritus at University of Colorado. I want to be the professor emeritus at Reno." It's like, "Huh?" Let's them fly under the radar though, you know?

You let the Avi Loebs go be the Harvard physicists. They don't know what the hell they're talking about. The good physicists they know what they're talking about. You got to go to those those uh you honestly if I was a young person, I would be specifically looking for the physicist I want to learn under. Not looking about what school do I want to go to. I'd be like, "Who's going to be my professor?"

I want to go learn under Gary Stevenson. Right? Like that would be my view. I'd be like, "Where's Charles Chase teaching? That's where I'm going to go. It can be University of Rhode Island.

Doesn't matter to me. I just want to go learn under Charles Chase. I just want to go learn under learn under Gary Stevenson. >> And uh let me see, his PhD advisor was Werner von Heisenberg. >> His PhD advisor was Werner Heisenberg. We're only one degree of freedom from the actual Nazis that made Nazi technology. >> He was friends and corresponded with Dr. Robert L. Forward as well as more recent >> Oh, he was friends with Robert Forward, too? What a surprise.

He was also friends with Robert Forward. By the way, this is not me doing the Candace Owens thing where Candace Owens goes, "Oh, look at these two totally unconnected things. Isn't it weird that the car that Charlie Kirk's body was put into like had stuff on the ground?" No, like every car I've ever been has stuff on the ground in it. I'm not doing that here.

I'm actually saying these are real connections these people had and these people really were working on fusion. >> recent figures who are still with us like Dr. Eric Davis, Hal Puthoff. >> I mean, Eric Davis, Hal Puthoff, he's basically just listing off every engineer that we've been investigating right now. >> And then of course I have him down the bottom here, the legendary Carl Sagan who has passed, right? So, the reason that I mention these names is this was like as you've described him, this was like a gold medalist in terms of physics. >> Dude, you've got fusion files on this guy?

I need those files. I don't know Look, I don't know what the deal is. I presumably they're papers. We just got to pay somebody to digitize them right now. These files by Friedrich Winterberg need to be digitized right now. I'll throw the money down.

It can't be that expensive. I got 500. I'll give you $500 right now for Friedwart Winterberg's Fusion notes. Even a digital version, any version you want. I don't care. Do you guys have any idea how bad I want these files?

By the way, he hasn't even said he has the files here, but he does. >> Right. Absolutely. Uh Dr. >> the Planck ether book right there. That's the Planck ether book on I can see I know this is what the Planck ether hypothesis looks like. >> Winterberg, he was brought over in 1959 under Project Paperclip. He was 16 at the end of the war in 1945. And so, he went on to college for physics.

He ended up doing very well. And as you said, he studied under uh Heisenberg, which was a very important figure in in you know, the history of all physics. So, when he was brought over in 1959, it was because he was working on uh fusion ideas and other nuclear-related stuff. And so, everybody was chomping at the bit to get at this guy. >> My number one regret in life is going to be never being able to meet these guys. Thank you, Hay Ocean. I never got to meet all these engineers that I look up to.

But I almost in in a in another kind of twisted way, I'm kind of glad they're dead because I have a feeling they would all be ignoring me or treating me like kryptonite or maybe even blocking me like so many people in the UFO community have. Cuz I look at it and I'm like, all the engineers are terrified to talk to me. I sent a Gary Stevenson a very specific email on how I think the gravity manipulation and uh can impact fusion and plasma and Same with Charles Chase.

The moment you send them something like that, Not over email, baby. >> He had letters of invitations from like every university out there, every government agency out there, everybody wanted a piece of this guy. And he eventually settled uh for working for a place called the Case Institute over in, I believe, Ohio or Pennsylvania. Um >> [clears throat] >> So, the Case Institute >> is like, "Hey, everybody wants a piece of this guy. Where do you want to go?" Uh Booger McGee College. Case Institute? >> It was four years of his life.

He transitioned from there as an associate professor uh in atmospheric physics because when you explode a bomb, you need to know how that fallout is going to >> Hey, I'm a nuclear These dudes are nuclear engineer and physicist and he's like, "I'm going to do atmospheric physics." That almost makes it sound like it's environmental. It's like, "Hey, I'm I'm working on climate change. I'm doing atmospheric physics." There's There's just no way you can convince me that these guys didn't do all this to like fly under the radar. That's just Isn't it plainly clear that's what they're doing here?

Why are you underselling everything? Why are you going to these no-name universities? And if this is a university I'm supposed to know and I don't know it, I apologize. >> transfer through the atmosphere. So, that was his jam. He didn't like working on uh weapons technology. He didn't want to work on anything weapons.

Since age 10, all he ever wanted was to have alternative propulsion ideas that would get us out in space. >> I don't remember why we're watching this clip, but I'm going to watch a few more minutes cuz it's really, really interesting, but this is something that I've been thinking about a lot. I wouldn't want to make weapons either. You know, it's easy for us to just not really think about what he's saying here because we're not engineers generally. But imagine I put you in a room and I'm like, "You have to make weapons for me now."

And you know, when you're done making that weapon, I'm going to take that weapon, I'm going to go kill somebody with it. Maybe a lot of people. That's the whole point of you making that weapon is we're going to use it to kill people. That would actually be hard to do. I'm not actually sure I could make weapons to kill people. I I you know, right now I say it and say, "Yeah, sure, of course I could."

But if I was actually doing it, it would actually be a big moral dilemma. So, I can totally understand where these engineers come from and I think Charles Chase is kind of like this, too. I get it I don't know it. I've never He's never told me that. But I get a feeling from just talking to him, from his personality, that he doesn't like building weapons. Hm.

Something I don't think we should undersell. That the human instinct to not want to harm people, if you're a good person. If you're a good person, you don't even want to make weapons cuz you can see where it's going to lead to and you don't even want to be a part of it. Maybe a good That might be a good litmus test. Cuz that's something you can ask people. It doesn't break national security. You can say, "Hey, you like making weapons?"

You can tell if they're a psychopath or not. They say yes, you know they're a psychopath for sure. >> That was his whole goal in life was uh propulsion. Uh it eventually led him towards working on fusion-related things. Um because when you look at propulsion, you inevitably end up looking at energy requirements on how much energy it's going to take to make me go fast. >> Yeah, it's kind of crazy, right? People like him completely change. You know, it's I think it's something psychological, honestly.

Anyway. >> So, that was the majority of his career was surrounding the two topics of alternative propulsion as well as energy. >> Okay. So, again, I mean, tremendous figure, came over with Operation Paperclip. He studied under Werner von Heisenberg, who is one of the absolute heavyweights in physics, right? So, this is a highly credible individual. The United States government felt that way, as well as the nuclear establishment once he got into it, right? This was as credible >> I can't understand.

The thing I want to know most at this point, more than anything else, how is it that I'm being allowed to do this? How is no one like 100% the UFO cover-up goes back to nuclear weapons, nuclear technology, and free energy technology. And they're covering it all up right now actively. Still hiding, still lying about it, no plans reveal it anytime soon. How is it I'm being allowed to do this and reveal this for so long, for years? It's like they have to see this exposure happening.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when this started happening, see them panicking, the CIA freak out about an operation being exposed, what the protocol is for covering it up. They definitely put a protocol in the place when I first came out. And I didn't know nearly enough about how they operated, know what was going on. But the whole Kim.com, I would be surprised to find that the cloud photos being found and Kim.com and even Danny Jones was all part of a sequential operation that somebody had to discredit the videos, discredit that that leak.

Wouldn't surprise me at all. >> And establishment as you can get. >> Yep. So in 1970, after he had transitioned out of Case and was working over at Desert Research Institute for a while, uh the Atomic Energy Commission, the AEC, uh they ended up giving him Q clearance for 4 years, from 1970 to 1974. You don't get Q clearance without being a somebody, right? Like that's really high-level secret stuff.

Um so during that time, he was figuring out how you could detonate or, you know, ignite a nuke using lasers or impact rather than having a smaller charge explode inside a cavity to make the bigger charge actually explode, which was >> You You know what he was figuring out? He was trying to figure out how you make a pure fusion bomb. Generally Generally, in order to make a fusion bomb what you do is you have the fusion material in the middle and you blow up atom bombs what we think of as a nuclear bomb on the outside of it.

So that the nuclear bomb shock waves impact the fusion part and that causes the fusion bomb to occur. So fusion bombs are technically two-stage. And Friedwardt Winterberg, you say, "How do you I know this?" Um hello, I read the textbook. Suggest you do a little reading yourself there. Maybe uh the Professor Dave could do a little reading.

Go ahead and read Friedwardt Winterberg's nuclear weapons textbook, which I read. Beautiful book by the way. He was trying to figure out, can we do fusion with plasma? Can we do an electric detonator? Could plasma trigger the detonation without the A-bomb? Because then we just have electricity being detonated.

Now it's an EMP bomb. Now it's not actually potentially releasing a huge amount of radiation depending on what our fusion reactions are. Hm. 1970 to 1974. Let's listen to a couple more minutes. >> Up until that point, the Teller-Ulam model, that's what that is, is you have this egg-shaped thing with a small bomb and a big bomb. The small bomb makes the big bomb go off.

Well, because he'd been working with these uh toroidal >> Chat, they say I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'm perfectly explaining how nuclear weapons work, probably better than most people can explain them. I would love to hear Professor Dave's explanation of how a nuclear weapon go ahead and correct me, sir. Am I saying something wrong since I'm such a a grifter who lies to people? Doesn't understand physics. Where are the PhDs? Go ahead and correct me if I don't understand physics. >> toroidal fusion reactor.

Figuring out how you could detonate or you know, ignite a nuke using lasers or impact rather than having a smaller charge >> So I want to hear his explanation. >> cavity to make the bigger charge actually explode, which was up until that point, the Teller-Ulam model. That's what that is is you have this egg-shaped thing with a small bomb and a big bomb. The small bomb makes the big bomb go off. Well, because he'd been working with these toroidal fusion reactor ideas, he figured out there's a lot of different ways that you can make material that is radioactive nuclear, you know, fissile material.

There's other ways that you can make it explode. Now, even though he didn't want to work on that kind of stuff, he also was very good about advocating for his ideas. And when he saw an application for his ideas, he he felt the need to justify those ideas to anybody that would listen, right? And so that was one angle. Um >> He I thought I think he said something at the 5-minute mark. So we're going to watch like 3 more seconds here. >> ended up becoming friends with Ed Teller back in around May of 1964.

Uh that was when Dr. Wernher von Braun went over to Los >> Do people even know? I like people know Edward Teller was important cuz they connect him to the fusion bomb, the H-bomb. But they don't know how important he was. I mean, the more I've learned about Teller, and I didn't know really much about him other than Oppenheimer movie, what have you, a few years ago, I he had to be the gatekeeper. If we really have secret fusion technology, who's the person who's decided they're going to put it in the hands of their smartest scientist?

They're going to put it in the hands of the guys who did the Manhattan Project. Who else would you go to? You're not going to bring somebody new on. You're going to go with the people that already know all the secrecy. They know all the rules, how it all played out. They know how to do it better than the Manhattan Project.

It has to be Edward Teller. It has to be. The fact that he was good friends with Edward Teller from the '60s Dude, Friedwardt Winterberg, bro. >> Los Alamos National Labs for the first time and gave a big presentation to everybody there on his idea of uh impact fusion, where it's this idea that you're circulating these levitating superconducting balls around in a circle um and then they slam into each other at THE RIGHT >> WHAT? CHECK. WHAT? SAY IT AGAIN. >> WELL, um he ended up becoming friends with Ed Teller back in around May of 1964.

Uh that was when Dr. Winterberg went over to Los Alamos National Labs for the first time and gave a big presentation to everybody there on his idea of uh impact fusion, where it's this idea that you're circulating these levitating superconducting balls around in a circle um and then they slam into each other at the right moment and you get fusion. >> Bro, what? What? Levitating superconducting discs that would obviously be producing plasma, slam them together and then you're going to get a fusion bomb? Guys, this is why I'm saying those orbs are fusion bomb.

I I'm pretty sure fusion bombs don't do what people think they do. That's another thing I mean I don't know for sure. I don't know maybe it's a certain kinds of fusion bombs can manipulate space-time. But at some point they took the fusion material out or that plane is loaded with fusion material cuz this is what we're seeing. How can this not be what we're seeing in these videos? Are you kidding me?

It's not like I knew that Friedwart Winterberg was talking about this. I didn't know who the heck Friedwart Winterberg was, and then we get leaked military videos from 2014. Look [laughter] at it. Three superconducting discs slamming together to make a fusion bomb? Friedwart Winterberg's textbook literally has a polyhedral configuration when he's talking about this. The polyhedral configuration is a perfect equilateral triangle formation.

Go read his textbook. I'm telling you guys. After I read the textbook, I left 100% convinced we've been hiding fusion, no doubt. And apparently Friedwart Winterberg was busy. So the question is really just did they take his idea or was he directly involved in building this? It's not just a one-man show.

These orbs represent the entire culmination of the United States Department of Energy's research for many, many years. People look at this and it looks like aliens to us because we don't understand how advanced the Department of Energy is and the Air Force. They're not incompetent. They've just been They've been presenting incompetence, but actually they're very competent. Actually, they've been able to build some really crazy And it makes sense. It actually makes perfect sense.

When you think about protecting the country the way you protect the country is you lie. You make it seem like we can't do anything because if a real threat comes, we're going to We're going to break out the orbs. When a real threat comes that we know we have no other We're going to break the orbs out and we're going to win immediately.