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Mike Gold. I forget what he says here. We're just going into this dark. All these people that testified to Congress, this guy's interesting. I had no idea he was some kind of NASA administrator, but if these guys are up here talking, that means the deep state trust them. Trust them to be able to lie, skirt around the truth, and present the narrative exactly how they want it to be presented. So, let's listen to my boy here. >> here with the UAP phenomena and the pernicious stigma that still surrounds this issue is that we are creating a loophole that adversary nations are leveraging because we ignore, we sweep under the rug any anomalous sighting that we can't explain. And I guarantee you that many, if not most, of those sightings, Langley Air Force Base, for example, that we're seeing, are likely Chinese adversarial drones, with China getting prepared to do to us what Ukraine has done to Russia, which would devastate our critical infrastructure, devastate our military facilities. And this is why that stigma is so pernicious, not just to transparency and accountability, but to our very lives. So, let's take UAP seriously. Let's not allow a lack of imagination to turn into a lack of freedom. So, number one, I think I said Dylan Borland's sighting wrong. It was at Langley, not Wright-Patterson. So, uh apologies to that. But yes, there's Mike Gold saying these sightings at Langley are going to be human. He's saying it's Chinese. Maybe, I don't know. I doubt it. I doubt that Chinese drones are able to fly over our military bases with impunity. It's probably our drones. That's the more simple explanation. But now you see people are moving back to this idea that these drones are controlled by us or that humans have them. And this is the counter to the narrative the alien people have been pushing that would no, we can't understand this anti-gravity technology. Therefore, we could never have built it. Um So, it doesn't really have a lot of validity to it. Now, um here's more from Anna Paulina Luna on the uh amnesty. >> People say, "We want to know where locations of craft and biologics are, right?" So, um we know for a fact that there have been a few very credible whistleblowers that we've talked to you that allege that they have information specifically pertaining to this, but they're afraid of losing their clearances. So, we have talked directly to the White House. Steven Miller is absolutely incredible on this topic, and we are providing them with a list of people that will be given immunity in that they will not have to face retribution in the future for violation of their security clearance or in some cases maybe the Espionage Act, whatever it might be. And that will be them going to the White House, divulging what information they have, and we're following up on it. I'm not saying that I have personally seen stuff. I haven't. Um but what I am saying is that we are taking the information that we have received, we are handing it off, we are going to get them immunity and protection so that they can divulge that information, and let's see where it leads. >> Does she have an award in front of her as well? Does she have a big giant award in front of her? Um guys, I don't understand this. If you do know where secret alien bodies are, sure. You know what? You can have some amnesty for the secret alien bodies. I don't know how or why that can be classified, but you know what? Go crazy. I'm super excited for you to get the alien bodies and put them on screen. That's awesome. Number one question, what's the power source of that alien? How did he get here? That's That's my only question. So, when we get to that, great. You want to do that? You try to give any of these people like Hal Puthoff or any of the other engineers, or any of these other people involved in the military, amnesty for using this technology, or hiding it, and that's no good. No bueno on that front. So, I'm not completely uh I'm not completely unreasonable. I just think it's unreasonable to me that we have that we uh are going to give people immunity for technology and hiding technology from us. Now, let's talk Hal Puthoff real quick. Um >> [snorts] >> Uh yeah, this one here. I think we're just going to watch this clip here. Okay. Hal Puthoff was at the press conference, and he spoke a little bit here. And I think I got the two major clips here. There might be more. I have a link to it if we have to go back. >> I was called in to be participating in this panel, and uh there were a lot of people from intelligence agencies and the military, and so on. And uh we didn't know why this panel was being formed. We were just said, you know, we had to come, and I said, I don't have enough time to do this. No, no, it'll be the most important panel you've ever been on. So, okay, fine. >> Ah, this is the story of Disclosure, right? >> fact, when I showed up, they said, "Okay, here's the issue. United States, Russia, and China have evidence of non-human intelligence technologies. And we're thinking about presenting this to the general public. Uh so, what we need to do in this panel is to figure out what would be the consequences of that for the general public. Well, we all initially started out saying, "Oh my god, this is just this really going to be great. And so we made >> Do people understand what we're listening to right now? This is a canned story that Hal Puthoff has told, I know of at least four times alone, including Joe Rogan a sole interview that I heard it for the first time and I'm sure he said it more times before that, and this time. This is what Hal Puthoff talking about when they literally decided to not give us disclosure. Consciously made a decision where they actually had a focus group where they met in Washington in the early 2000s and right there he says, "We get in there we decide this is going to be great. We're going to be able to give everybody disclosure." Well, I'm sorry chat. If you thought this story had a happy ending, you've you've come to the wrong place. >> It was a long list. Actually ended up we had something like 60 items on the list. Okay, could affect the stock market, it could affect the religious thought, it could affect uh you know, whatever. When we got down into the weeds time we get down into the weeds, we're say, "Okay, uh corporation A was given materials uh by the government but corporation B wasn't. So, they're going to uh sue the government and sue the corporations because they were left out of the loop and so on." So, anyway, we added up a bunch of numbers. >> See, they they tell on themselves. If you listen closely, after you know the truth, you will hear them tell on themselves. He said, "Corporation A, they're afraid corporation A will sue corporation B." Guess what? All these people have LLCs in their own names. Now, that protects them but it doesn't protect their company and their money. These people, they're afraid of being sued. Not just Lockheed Martin, but these people that were also independent contractors. People that worked on this stuff, the people who hid this stuff. There's a lot of lawsuits going to be flying around. >> For all the different 60 element items, and we all came up with negative numbers. And so we decided in that panel, you know, that this just isn't going to work. Part of it being that there's no way to deal with it piece by piece. You'd have to announce all of it. And handle everything at the same time when realizing that that was going to be an impossible task. >> Chat. Is that Avi Loeb sitting next to Hal Puthoff? What in the hell is going on? Avi Loeb is sitting next to him. Okay, we'll address that in a second. Let's go to the next clip. Oh, this is going to be a good one. >> Is there a specific moment where or something that happened that made you think I'm I'm now for disclosure to the American public, to the world? >> The specific moment would be um being exposed to what the apparent reality was, that there really is something going on that most human don't know about. And just recognizing that that's wrong. >> And how much of that reality >> [snorts] >> That's the worst He couldn't even come up with a good lie on the spot right there, chat. He couldn't even come up with a good lie on the spot. He's like, "What was the moment where you realized you needed to do something?" And this dude's so buried deep in the swamp that he couldn't even lie and come up with a good a good answer. He's like, "Uh the moment I learned how significant it was." What the [ __ ] does that mean? What is he talking about? How significant what was? Oh, you mean how the fact there's an extra dimension in the universe and we can teleport [ __ ] through it? You're trying to tell me how Puthoff had a change of heart cuz he found out about the thick whites? How Puthoff found out the thick whites were being oppressed, chat, and he just couldn't deal couldn't deal with the moral dilemma any longer. The guilt was too It was too much on me. I had to let The world has to know that the thick whites are out there. They're there for relief, chat. Sexual relief for all incels is is coming. >> Have you been able to share publicly? >> Uh very little of it. >> Hold on. Hold on. What did he say there? >> Don't know about. And just recognizing that that's wrong. >> I'm not sure Is Avi Loeb a machine? Maybe Avi Loeb isn't even a conscious human being, chat. Maybe Avi Loeb is an advanced general intelligence. The The machine known as Avi Loeb over there. I don't really know. He's just He's just nodding along. Like, what is this guy thinking? Chat, if you don't know Avi Loeb, go watch Hard Truths podcast with Avi Loeb. I think it was like number seven or something like that. He actually came on my podcast cuz he didn't know the trap that he was coming into. And oh my god, did he get destroyed. And I was I mean, I was respectful, right? But I built up into it and then built up to it and then I showed him the videos and I'm going through the science and the physics and keep in mind at this point I was pretty fresh to it still. But it's just going right over his head. And I was making salient points that he just doesn't have any answer to. And now he's sitting next to the guy that I was telling him he needs to read these papers. I'm referencing Hal Puthoff and Eric Davis to Avi Loeb every time I'm interacting with him and he's sitting next to him now. And he was acting like he didn't even know who Hal Puthoff was when I'm talking to him and now he's sitting next to him. Weird. >> Uh-huh. >> And how much of that have you been able to share publicly? >> Uh very little of it. >> [laughter] >> And what would happen if you were to share some of that with just us in this room right here? >> [laughter] >> Well, I could worry about going to jail. >> [laughter] >> Uh >> Is there a specific mo- >> Worried about going to jail. Do you really think Hal Puthoff is worried about going to jail, chat? That guy is he's on death's door right now. And I I respect him. I want him to be around as long as possible. I want to be able to talk to Hal Puthoff while he's alive and not have him be afraid of me. So, I want the truth to come out, too, cuz when he can talk about it, maybe he will talk to me because I've been promoting him, one of his biggest cheerleaders. Because he's right. The problem is he hasn't really been telling the truth, has he? He's the He's the godfather of zero-point energy. Ground state of the hydrogen atom. Gravity is a zero-point fluctuation force. These papers are from the '80s. It's almost 40 years ago now. You can't come out 40 years later and go, "Hey, time to tell the truth. We kind of figured out physics a long time ago." Hm.