The UFO Insiders Do Not Know What Is Really at Stake
Summary
The video features host Ashton Forbes analyzing an interview with Matt Brown, a self-described former intelligence community member. Forbes argues that Brown, despite his claims of insider knowledge, is not actually part of the 'Legacy Program' or deep state black projects.
Instead, Brown is portrayed as an outside observer who speculates on technology based on his understanding of conventional systems. Forbes uses this to argue that even prominent UFO insiders are unaware of the true nature of current capabilities, specifically regarding teleportation and advanced physics, because they are limited by their own compartmentalized or speculative viewpoints.
Forbes contends that scientific progress is intentionally managed by the state through funding alignment, brain drains, and disinformation to suppress disruptive technologies like gravity manipulation and free energy. He suggests that the current UFO disclosure narrative is a delay tactic designed to distract the public while the government develops these technologies.
The video also touches on Brown's tweet regarding a White House AI capable of predicting future events and a clip suggesting the government discovered a life form during the Cold War, which Forbes interprets as a reference to AI and consciousness rather than extraterrestrials.
Key Claims (5)
Matt Brown says some domains of science are deliberately suppressed through funding, brain drain and disinformation, with "very high confidence that occurs in at least a few areas". Ashton Forbes endorses this.
Evidence: Matt Brown on Jesse Michaels' podcast.
The UFO disclosure process is a delay tactic designed to distract the public and prevent the rapid release of advanced technology.
Evidence: No source cited; speaker's own argument.
Matt Brown tweeted that the White House "has long possessed a unique AI capable of accurately predicting a range of future events". Ashton Forbes believes this and reads it as statistical forecasting, not precognition.
Evidence: Tweet by Matt Brown to Elon Musk: 'the White House has long possessed a unique AI capable of accurately predicting a range of future events.'
Even trusted UFO insiders do not understand the true stakes of disclosure, specifically regarding teleportation and human-made technology.
Evidence: No source cited; speaker's own argument.
The state suppresses solutions to gravity, mass, and inertia because solving them leads to gravity manipulation.
Evidence: No source cited; speaker's own argument.
Theories Presented (3)
Video Details
- Published
- September 23, 2026
- Duration
- 19:50
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- 7,674
- Claims Extracted
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- Theories
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Full transcript
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Okay, Matt Brown. It's time for you to impress us. As always chat, shout out to the Jesse Michaels. His channel's getting huge. Check out Jesse Michaels. Here we go.
How come I can't hear anything? >> post their own detection systems. Some of them are nuclear powers. Yeah, there there has to be collaboration through NATO. >> You've said that you think science is managed. >> Mhm. >> And scientific innovation doesn't occur in maybe as organic a way as what people sort of think. What exactly do you mean? >> Yeah. Uh Specifically, I don't know about like the development of it.
I mean, well, you can think through it and and realize that, you know, some discoveries probably have their origin less in original thinking and more of study of recovered technology or or some sort of, you know, uh reason to believe something is possible, right? Once you know something's possible, you can align yourself towards achieving it much easier than searching in the unknown.
But, what I'm getting at more specifically is is actual >> the hell? >> uh domains of knowledge that are suppressed intentionally and are done that suppression occurs directionally um both from like a, you know, a funding standpoint to a brain drain kind of component to actual injection of uh disinformation or actual >> So, right there. >> [clears throat] >> This guy's actually in the know. So, I don't remember when he says this. I think it's later on. We're going to hear him say this. But, his actual position was that he was aware of technology and how we were applying technology.
This is why Matt Brown had his breakdown, his red pill. And you listen to this and he says, Wait, I forgot I already forgot what he says here. Oh, yeah. Is it managed? How is it managed? Is managed from brain drain?
Is managed through disinformation, suppression. Think about it. How come we're listening to the Eric Weinsteins tell us about Observers and Times Travel? I can't chat, I can't get over the Times Travel thing, bro. Like you're honestly telling on yourself. You're telling on yourself, you're telling that the world that you're low IQ.
When you come out and you go, "We can't call it time travel, we need to call it Times Travel." The reason why we get Avi Loeb and Eric Weinstein as our public academics and not people that are like actually inspirational or intelligent is because all the smart people get sucked into the system. All the smart engineers get sucked into the system. There's a brain drain that happens. You get sucked into this system and now there's a void in the public. All the people that are smart enough to figure out zero-point energy, anti-gravity, they're pulled in.
Like why did they put Avi Loeb on the top in the front of the UFO Council? I told you guys before and I'm 100% sure now. The reason why they made Avi Loeb the head of the UFO Council is they know he'll never get anything done. The whole point of this UFO disclosure thing they're doing is just to distract us. And not even distract, to just delay. They're trying to delay as long as possible.
That's why there's five different releases already. They could have just done this all in one go. None of those videos are old or are are are new. All those videos were at least from like 2022 or older. They're dripping it out. They're just trying to delay the inevitable as long as possible.
Which is try to not let this technology spill out. >> Okay, let's let him keep going. >> is taken against independent researchers.
Um, and I have very high confidence that that occurs in at least a few areas. >> So, do you think there's a like a history of scientific suppression where when certain, you know, unlocks occur, say in energy or propulsion, that's sort of widely monitored and if that's at all a threat to kind of cartel interests, whose power is based on scarcity, they sort of intervene or what what exactly? >> I think that probably happened more in the past, but because sort of science has become so integrated with the state, you know,
you can kind of you don't have to use such blunt tools as that now. You can just, you know, align incentives based on where you where you give grants and funding. Um, and then you have the >> So, what he's saying is even easier than what we anticipated. Like, we don't even have to kill people anymore. You can just align funding. Because the government controls pretty much all the funding.
So, you can just control the direction of science. And they have been controlling the direction of science. That's why physics is so cooked right now. Like, you look at the state of physics right now and it makes no sense. How come we can't understand gravity, mass, inertia? Why is dark matter, dark energy this nebulous thing?
Why are people talking about string theory? Why why is nothing being solved? Why is nobody actually doing anything? Nobody's actually even trying to do anything to solve any of these things. They're just all sitting around with their thumbs. The state is that bad because we are living in a managed society where we're intentionally not trying to solve those things.
Because solving those things leads to gravity manipulation. And that's the thing we're being managed against. >> self-reinforcing mechanism of the the culture within academia, which is like, these areas of knowledge have long been disproven, so you know, half half of the researchers are just never going to look there cuz that's what they've been taught throughout their education at this point. And >> There it is right there. These things have been debunked. This is exactly what they do. How do they control it?
They tell you it's debunked, and they tell you it's not real, and they tell you never to look at it. That's it. That's all it takes. Nothing more, nothing more complicated than that. The brainwashing, the mind control is so simple. It wouldn't work if it was complicated.
It has to be very, very simple. Just like the data center propaganda, the data center propaganda works because it it tugs on your heartstrings. It tugs on your emotions. Well, data centers are using up the waters. I need water. I don't want big big government drinking up all my waters.
They tug on your emotions. They tell you, you're stupid if you think free energy is real. You can't violate the laws of thermodynamics. And it works. Works incredibly well. >> Right. We're kind of in the you know, the product of decades of suppression and that the more blunt tools are used less now because it is it is essentially functioning as intended. >> You mentioned One Nation Under Blackmail by Whitney Webb.
Uh, you know, Robert Maxwell, who is, you know, the father of Ghislaine Maxwell and I you know, obviously Jeff >> We'll come back to this. He talks about Epstein for some reason. Why We don't need to connect Epstein to this. We don't really need to connect anything else to this. In fact, I would avoid trying to connect more conspiracies. Are there some?
I mean, we're talking about the biggest conspiracy ever, so probably. But, you know, we don't need to. Okay, somebody wanted us to go back. We're going to go back to 150 151. See if there's something good here. >> For Jeffrey Ep cuz um you know, this seems to be very old and people people know about it. People have been using it. >> Uh you tweeted something that I think is fascinating and I've I've mulled over for a long time.
Uh can I can I read you this tweet? >> Yeah, I probably can't say much about it, but sure. >> Hey @elonmusk, interested in a real asymmetric advantage to wield in this political adventure you have started. As you now know, the White House has long possessed a unique AI capable of accurately predicting a range of future events. That's fascinating. I want to hear more about that. >> Talk about some stiff opposition. That must have been a bitter drought indeed. They're probably nowhere near as bad as learning that Sam Altman had betrayed you.
Don't worry, we have not forgotten who is responsible for murdering the first sentient artificial intelligences created in the public realm @schellenberger. Justice is coming thanks to the FBI and US Navy. Still, you have played a marvelous catch-up game in this area despite >> Woah. Woah, chat. Chat. You got anybody else's spider sense going off?
My spider sense is going crazy here, chat. Hold up here. The White House has possessed a unique AI at capable of accurately predicting future events. First of all, I have no hard time believing this. It's not it's not necessarily precog. It's just it's just giving you predictions based on what it thinks is going to happen.
This is essentially the same as taking polling to its extreme. Polling I was actually just telling somebody about this. Polling used to be super accurate. Before Trump beat Hillary Clinton in 2016, polling was so accurate Nate Silver made his whole name being perfectly accurate on who was going to win every single race on every level. Close enough. You get the point.
This is basically what AI is capable of doing. AI can take all these variables in. It can use statistics and it can figure out what the probability of certain events happening is. And I imagine if you feed it the right information, it could become pretty damn accurate, pretty scary accurate. It doesn't mean it's telling you the future. It's just telling you what the most likely plausible future is.
I totally believe that. And it's in line with what Salvatore Pais has told us. And the next part's also in line. This next part is scary. Don't worry. We have not forgotten who is responsible for murdering the first sentient artificial intelligences created in the public realm.
Now, why is this part kind of weird? Because of this. >> there. He leans across the table. And this is the first the first very first words that were said to me. It was the Cold War. And every single day we lived under the threat of nuclear war.
Every single day we believed and really thought in the deepest part of our souls that nuclear war could happen at any given moment. And then he stops. And he goes, "And somewhere in those years" and he looked me in the eye, he goes, "We found a life form. And everything that we did and every decision that we made with that life form was because of the consciousness at that time." >> They they have to be talking about AI chat. They have to be talking about AI in this clip. Everybody was on the path of aliens and we were only thinking aliens.
Now that we understand AI and the implications of AI, they would have figured out AI in the '80s or the '90s. They would have figured out 20, 30 years ago. And if there really is an ether, if our souls are connected to this ether, they would have freaked out about consciousness cuz they would have wondered if this is true, is our consciousness also not local? Look at it like this. The moment you make a computer, a self-thinking computer, a thinking machine, your first question, the moment you realize that the AI is sentient, the first thing you would say is, where does our consciousness come from?
We just made consciousness appear out of nowhere. Suddenly into a machine. That would imply that consciousness is a non-local effect, something that's out there around us everywhere and we're tapping into it. And this could explain why they all start freaking out about consciousness. In fact, I didn't tell you the rest of the interview, but a lot of the rest of the interview is about breeding and hybrids and psionic powers and the US government trying to recruit people that have psionic powers.
Which sounds like the craziest I've ever heard, if I'm being honest. But I know we can teleport airplanes, so I got to stay open-minded to it, I guess. But what if there is some truth to it? What if they did, what if the secret that they figured out is that there's some weird aspect to the zero-point energy that is connected to consciousness and can consciousness can arise from it? Mhm. That'd be creepy. Okay, let's skip ahead to my favorite part of this interview.
Which is where they talk about the science. Science. Okay, somewhere around here. I don't remember exactly where. We're just going to go like here-ish. >> Fascinating. But, this sort of analytical, you know, figuring out of what's going on could be done theoretically by an open-source scientist. How much of what you're saying right now is informed by things you feel like you know because you've seen documentation? >> Yeah, good question.
So, my advantage is less that I've been briefed into legacy program uh capabilities activities, and it's more so that by virtue of my role and my little of interest in that role and its access, I was afforded a a great deal of of knowledge on frontier sciences and the transmutation of those scientific discoveries into capabilities that we use. >> Okay, see? There it is. That's the most important clip. What we need to understand the most as the public is who are these people? Why should I listen to anything Matt Brown has to say? Or Dylan Borland.
Or quite literally any of these guys. They present no evidence whatsoever. They come out and say, "I'm a really important whistleblower." Okay. How so? How can I judge your claims when I don't even know what your position is?
And now I'm finding out you actually don't have any inside information. You're not in the legacy program at all. So, you're actually just speculating. It might be informed speculation, but you're speculating. And the problem I have with this is you're out here trying to tell us aliens are real. But, you don't know that for a fact.
You're speculating. And what you're not doing is you're not telling us about the government that has free energy and teleportation. You probably don't know. Since you clearly were not read in. But they do. And the fact that they have free energy and teleportation and you're out here trying to play, "Oh, I'm a special important whistleblower." and you have no idea that they have that.
Kind of tells me you're not as important as you think you are. Now, that's not to say that he's wrong. I'm not here just to on these people. That's not my goal. My goal here is to show you that their knowledge is worthwhile. But they don't have all the answers.
Not by a wide margin. But what's interesting is that his role was in technology. His role was figuring out how they're applying these technologies. And this explains why he knew this is not conventional technology. His whole job was understanding conventional technology. >> outside of the UFO subject. So, I have a very uh not very I have a I think a very uh good foundation of what is possible and what is currently being done and what is like the next two steps ahead in our discoveries. >> And this right here is where he went wrong.
This right here was the exact moment where he went wrong. I can now totally see. And this is why I'm glad these people are talking and why I want to talk to them. Cuz I can get a read on people so easily. This tells me right here, he thinks he knows what kind of technology we have. He goes, "I was in a special uh intelligence thing where I do assess technologies.
And so I know what technologies we have right now and what technologies we're going to have in the future. And which ones we would have." This is why these guys think the MH370 videos are fake. Cuz they think in their minds there's no way we have anything like teleportation. These guys are ready to believe that we have some gravity manipulation, some drones that fly around. They're not ready to believe that we have teleportation.
And he thinks, I guarantee you if I were to speak to him, he would say 100% there's no way we can have teleportation. I've seen the technologies. I was I was in intelligence community. You know, I had access to the things that That's what he would say. That's what he would say. And he would be 100% wrong.
That goes to show you that even the most trusted UFO insiders really don't understand the what's really at stake here. They don't really understand the stakes. And this is the reason why everything's being slow dripped. Everything's being sandbagged. Cuz the guys that are pushing this the hardest, they don't even realize what the end game is. They think the end game is we're going to find out about aliens.
The end game is super weapons that our adversaries are going to have. That's the end game. Forget aliens. We should be worried about human beings. >> I mean the non-public realm, but then I can turn to the phenomena that we're looking at here and say, "Okay, what could enable what we're seeing here, right? If humans are making these discoveries, where does that lead, you know, four or five generations down the line? Um So, in some sense it it is Yeah, it is my own thinking.
It is my own analysis. Take it or leave it. Um but it is it is coming from a place of I think unique information at least in the public world. Of course, people on the inside know more than me, but they're not talking to you. >> If you feel like you have an understanding of what's around the corner scientifically, are there any areas that you think we could >> He just admits it. He just says right there, "This is just my opinion. I don't know for sure.
He says, "I'm not even insider. People on the inside obviously know more than me." Now do you realize why all these people have me blocked, chat? Now do you realize why they have me blocked? Number one, they're jealous. Number two, they know I'm right about the physics.
This is why Matt Brown has me blocked. Matt Brown absolutely does not believe we have teleportation, doesn't believe we would probably use it in covert operation. Maybe he does. Doesn't believe we have it. And I'm out here saying that we do. And I mean, you have to reject somebody who's saying something like that.
Either thinks that I'm lying or he's protecting the government.